Brewers (Patrick) vs Cardinals (Liberatore): 4/25/25, 7:15pm

[Brewer77]

Capra has no place on this roster. Monasterio has at least shown a pulse in the big leagues 

[RobertCrawley]

2 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

You didn’t answer my question

I'm not sure I understood your question, tbh.

[edfunderburk]

8 minutes ago, RobertCrawley said:

I think some people trash their own teams because they aren't as disappointed when they lose.

Do you consider my candid assessments & non-complimentary posts about the Brewers poor play in 2025 as “trashing” my team?

[ClearWaterWI]

I suspect the Reds will leapfrog the Brewers tonight and set their sights on the Cubs. 

[edfunderburk]

23 minutes ago, RobertCrawley said:

I'm not sure I understood your question, tbh.

I’m sorry … let me try again:

I’ve always wondered … Does having a “positive outlook” - even when a team is playing poorly - make losing easier?

[RobertCrawley]

6 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

Do you consider my candid assessments & non-complimentary posts about the Brewers poor play in 2025 as “trashing” my team?

No, because they are reasonable, although I may disagree. I have my own non-complimentary posts aplenty.  But others seem to trash the team just to do it.

[RobertCrawley]

1 minute ago, edfunderburk said:

I’m sorry … let me try again:

I’ve always wondered … Does have a “positive outlook” - even when a team is playing poorly - make losing easier?

I'm still not sure. A positive outlook doesn't make losing harder or easier. Losing is hard, no matter what, but the season is long.

[treego14]

39 minutes ago, RobertCrawley said:

Even with our payroll, we can play really good, error-free baseball.

We can at times, sure ... but to expect it season after season when you don't have the star veterans because they've moved on to big market big spending teams is not fair or wise for these young fellas!

Root, root for these boys ... but remember, they are boys compared to the big market big spending rosters!

We can overcome it to some extent each season, and it makes it especially sweet when we can win a division and squeak by the Cubs and Cards, but the Big Leagues are still the Rig Leagues, and we are playing on a tilted field, no question.

[edfunderburk]

16 minutes ago, RobertCrawley said:

No, because are reasonable, although I may disagree. I have my own non-complimentary posts aplenty.  But others seem to trash the team just to do it.

It is certainly not my intention to “trash” the Brewers. I love this team & have for years. I do feel like I’m objective & find it difficult to see much positive in this year’s team. There have been several blowout losses & a few games where we gave away leads with poor defense. Additionally, I’m not fond of Murphy’s “in game” decisions. I like his personality far more than Counsell’s but not his baseball decisions. I’m shocked at how poorly the defense has played. I’m not surprised by the lack of power or poor performances by payers on the left side of the infield. Overall, we have been worse than our 13-14 record. I don’t have confidence in this group of players - even with a few pitchers + Perkins returning soon - performing well enough to win the NL Central. Gosh, I hope I’m wrong. 

[RobertCrawley]

1 minute ago, treego14 said:

We can at times, sure ... but to expect it season after season when you don't have the star veterans because they've moved on to big market big spending teams is not fair or wise for these young fellas!

Root, root for these boys ... but remember, they are boys compared to the big market big spending rosters!

We can overcome it to some extent each season, and it makes it especially sweet when we can win a division and squeak by the Cubs and Cards, but the Big Leagues are still the Rig Leagues, and we are playing on a tilted field, no question.

We can and we should play almost error free baseball. Maybe we don't have a lot of stars, but we can stop beating ourselves.

[markedman5]

 

[edfunderburk]

58 minutes ago, RobertCrawley said:

I'm still not sure. A positive outlook doesn't make losing harder or easier. Losing is hard, no matter what, but the season is long.

Thanks for attempting to answer my question 

I usually ask concrete - not abstract - questions … that’s the way I see the world … black & white with little to no gray

I’m not negative & make a comfortable living coaching leaders & telling them truth kindly but clearly 

I have several friends who often see the same thing I see but somehow spin it in a positive light … which often feels shallow or insincere 

Anyone who is watching the 2025 Brewers can’t help but acknowledge that they are not performing well … no matter how long the season (we are 1/6 of the way through the 162 game season after another disappointing loss tonight)

[RobertCrawley]

11 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

It is certainly not my intention to “trash” the Brewers. I love this team & have for years. I do feel like I’m objective & find it difficult to see much positive in this year’s team. There have been several blowout losses & a few games where we gave away leads with poor defense. Additionally, I’m not fond of Murphy’s “in game” decisions. I like his personality far more than Counsell’s but not his baseball decisions. I’m shocked at how poorly the defense has played. I’m not surprised by the lack of power or poor performances by payers on the left side of the infield. Overall, we have been worse than our 13-14 record. I don’t have confidence in this group of players - even with a few pitchers + Perkins - performing well enough to win the NL Central. Gosh, I hope I’m wrong. 

We'll be better when we're healthier on the mound. I'm not as concerned about Murphy's decision making, and I have disagreed with him plenty. Baseball is 28% luck, according to big brain scientists. I believe it. A manager can get it right or get lucky. Or not. Agreed, this team lacks power, and that is worrying. The defense is inexcusable. This is a professional baseball team, for goodness sakes. Let's play like it.

[Bulldogboy]

Guessing Cameron is coming up for Mitchell. Hope he can hit lefties. 

[edfunderburk]

44 minutes ago, Bulldogboy said:

Guessing Cameron is coming up for Mitchell. Hope he can hit lefties. 

Mitchell was stellar defensively but was not hitting well at all 

Hopefully he gets healthy & contributes later in the season 

I’m excited to see what Cameron can bring 

When we traded for him, the scouting reports I read didn’t speak highly of his defense 

[RobertCrawley]

3 minutes ago, Bulldogboy said:

Guessing Cameron is coming up for Mitchell. Hope he can hit lefties. 

With Mitchell hitting .206, the bar is low.

[markedman5]

It’s too long a season to just get depressed after every loss…….that’s just my, opinion.

i understand game threads are mostly celebrating and venting……which is why I try to stay away from them when we are going through a tough stretch.

nobody enjoys losing…..it is what it is……we obviously need to play better but right now it’s tough.

Venting has never made me feel better……..and it certainly isn’t the kind of fan I want to be.

I understand everyone is different so not making a value judgement……just healthier to enjoy the wi s and move on from,the losses…….at least for me.

[edfunderburk]

I assume (hope) Capra is DFA’d to make room for Cameron on the 40-man roster.

Then Cameron comes to Milwaukee to replace Mitchell if he goes on the IL. 

Maybe Monasterio takes Capra’s place on the 26-man roster … at least short-term

It would be fun to see Pratt added later in the season if he continues to play well … his upside is far greater 

 

 

[Brian]

Cincinnati just won so the Brewers are officially in 3rd place now. 

[Jim French Stepstool]

1 hour ago, yfinn6 said:

I know Capra is the easy one to bag on here but there were other chances during the game. Also, it was stupid to remove Patrick when he was removed. It felt like Murph was making a move to make a move. And didn't Alexander pitch yesterday and also gave up runs? Maybe just trust your starter at that point. 

A great point that IMO too many are ignoring. I've said it before.......if you're going to ask your BP to get 10, 11, 12 outs every night--tonite it was more than that if you go nine--you can't have only 2 LHP in the BP if one of them is named Tyler Alexander. Flip side, there aren't many other options with Ashby out & Hudson missing the strike zone. Personally, I'd rather see Jay up here until one of the other two returns.

[Jim French Stepstool]

It's hard to find shiny nuggets in this stretch, but Hoskins is hot--last AB notwithstanding--and Chourio finished  tonite with two hard-hit balls. Those are two RHH. That could bode well going forward. And Collins had two good ABs. His walk after falling behind 0-2 might've been even more impressive than the hit in the 9th.

Maybe they'll change their organizational strategy, but I just don't see them swapping a guy like Capra, who is right now about an 0.5 on a scale of 1-10 offensively, for someone like Monasterio, who might be a 3 if he was up here but is quite a bit worse defensively, especially as a SS. What makes it an issue is Dunn didn't hit either, and now Ortiz is following suit. Unless they find someone on the cheap, it looks to me like the best hope for a replacement is to pray that Pratt goes on a major tear at Biloxi, enough that he can't be ignored.

[wiguy94]

1 hour ago, yfinn6 said:

I know Capra is the easy one to bag on here but there were other chances during the game. Also, it was stupid to remove Patrick when he was removed. It felt like Murph was making a move to make a move. And didn't Alexander pitch yesterday and also gave up runs? Maybe just trust your starter at that point. 

Murphy's decisions with pitching moves has frankly been extremely confusing this season. Seems like his logic on when to pull SP changes every game.

Also he and the front office need to get on the same page with regards to Payamps. Murphy's refusal to use Payamps when up big or losing has potentially cost us games already and could have longterm implications if we burn out some other bullpen guys. Like tonight, Payamps absolutely should have pitched the 8th inning. We were down 3-2 with Helsley an elite closer coming in the 9th to face Collins, Capra, and Durbin. That's an extremely unlikely win even down just a run so Payamps needed to be the guy. Instead he used Anderson the day after overusing Anderson cost the Brewers a win because he was unavailable for the 8th inning and they had to use Alexander.

[yourout]

11 hours ago, edfunderburk said:

Murphy is all personality … he’s brutal in his decision-making

Be glad we now have the DH.

Can you imagine him having to deal with juggling pitching without it.