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If his name was anything else, no one would want Peralta.

If he is free, it is what it is, but I’d rather them set their sights on someone who is more stable and can go farther than 4 innings.

we are also talking a guy that will be a free agent at the end of the year and was on the verge of hundreds of millions. No doubt he wants to start every fifth day and we want to win…after a month his best way to help us is in the bullpen, who knows. So there is potential conflict there.

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14 hours ago, TURBO said:

Well, even if that were true,  (technically it isn't)  can't we shoot for better than just another guy who can't go more than 5 innings?

Just because he is Freddy Peralta, former Brewer, doesn't mean there isn't a better option out there.  I mean, if we didn't have history with him, would anyone look at his 2026 season and think he is the guy we should go out and get?

I'm saying no.

Why are you always so against the Brewers acquiring guys who used to play here? Its not exactly an apples-to-apples comparison, but Sabathia was 6-8 with an ERA near 4 when the Brewers traded for him. I imagine that smart teams look at more than just the last 4 months of results when trading for a veteran pitcher, and Peralta has a very solid history. If he were pitching better, it is likely the Mets would be closer to contending, and he wouldn't even be available. If the Brewers determine that he's the best fit of what is available for veteran starting pitching, I wouldn't take issue with it, former Brewer or not. 

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I don't buy into the 'if it wasn't peralta we wouldn't want him' argument.  IMO this would be the exact guy they would target. He's having a down year so it keeps his price to acquire low, he's been very good for a number of years and our pitching system might think they can tweak him and get him back to being good again. They go for this type of guy somewhat frequently. But yea in this case they do know him so well that they know the personality/chemistry stuff is good.   

To me, it would come down to if the Brewers pitching nerds think they know what's wrong with him this year and if they can get him back to what he was. Everyone knows the stats this year are poor, the idea is to get him back to what he was, if they can then of course we'd want him.  I recall an article earlier in the year pointing out the differences in what the Mets are having him do. If our lab people look at his data and the conclusion is the Mets are idiots and we can fix him, and the cost is low then its worth a shot.  Have to think his cost is much less than all the other names we've talked about around here, but yea if not the get the Ryan type instead. But the vibe seems to be they do not want to give up any of the upper tier prospects

Also, almost no one goes more than 5-6 innings anymore. Its just the reality.

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Freddy is basically the complete opposite of Wacha. 

High spin/fastball dominant vs. pitches to contact w/ changeup 

High pitch count vs. efficient innings eater

Underperforming vs overperforming peripherals

Cheap contract vs. expensive contract

Expiring contract vs. owe another year

Known entity vs. haven't faced him since 2023

 

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1 hour ago, tmwiese55 said:

I don't buy into the 'if it wasn't peralta we wouldn't want him' argument.  IMO this would be the exact guy they would target. He's having a down year so it keeps his price to acquire low, he's been very good for a number of years and our pitching system might think they can tweak him and get him back to being good again. They go for this type of guy somewhat frequently. But yea in this case they do know him so well that they know the personality/chemistry stuff is good.   

To me, it would come down to if the Brewers pitching nerds think they know what's wrong with him this year and if they can get him back to what he was. Everyone knows the stats this year are poor, the idea is to get him back to what he was, if they can then of course we'd want him.  I recall an article earlier in the year pointing out the differences in what the Mets are having him do. If our lab people look at his data and the conclusion is the Mets are idiots and we can fix him, and the cost is low then its worth a shot.  Have to think his cost is much less than all the other names we've talked about around here, but yea if not the get the Ryan type instead. But the vibe seems to be they do not want to give up any of the upper tier prospects

Also, almost no one goes more than 5-6 innings anymore. Its just the reality.

The entire Brewers fan base on social media is obsessed with Freddy Peralta like it is a done deal we will go trade for him, begging for it.

The air quality is finally decent, I think people need to go outside and get fresh air. The obsession with a negative WAR pitcher is getting a little strange.

If he is free, great. But giving up value? Idk about that. Though it probably helps the Mets that he had that cheap contract versus a massive final arby year price tag.

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One could also argue that obsessing about 2 months of negative WAR vs 6 years of positive is off too.  It all comes down to if they think they can get him back to what he was for the previous 6ish years or not. If they think he's hurt, something with velocity they can't fix, etc then yea don't touch him.  But it wouldn't surprise me at all if by his 3rd start back here he looks like his old self.  Regardless, you're only getting what 12ish starts and he's gone after the year, so you should not give much up

And sure, an avg fan that just knows is going to get more excited about him or be more willing to give up value. But that's not who we're talking to on this board.  Almost every one here can step back a bit and realize part of the reason to target him is that it should be a buy low, not a 'giving up value'.

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36 minutes ago, MrTPlush said:

The entire Brewers fan base on social media is obsessed with Freddy Peralta like it is a done deal we will go trade for him, begging for it.

The air quality is finally decent, I think people need to go outside and get fresh air. The obsession with a negative WAR pitcher is getting a little strange.

If he is free, great. But giving up value? Idk about that. Though it probably helps the Mets that he had that cheap contract versus a massive final arby year price tag.

Forget the name. If I told you there was a starting pitcher out there who over the last 5 seasons was a 15 WAR pitcher and last year was a Top 5 Cy Young guy, is just 30 years old, but has fallen on hard times this year for a bunch of reasons we don't know BUT has a ton of familiarity with our starting catcher and a history with our pitching coach where he had prior success and the price tag isn't assumed to be wild...

Why wouldn't he be a target?

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