Brewers (Harrison) vs Braves (Sale): 6/20/26, 3:10pm

[wiguy94]

3 minutes ago, torts said:

Levering made it seem like thwy lost thT on a blown 3rd strike check the pitch before.  Is that true?  Was listening on the way to the beach and just turned my phone off and haven't bothered to look so you tell me 🤣

Homer in me says it was a swing but I don't think it was an egregious missed call. Definitely more of a 50-50

[Jim French Stepstool]

3 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

 

Couldn't watch the game live; surprised this thread is still going on (which is on me, I guess I shouldn't be). I referred to the above post by Michaelis because it's absolutely correct. I like the idea of Megill being the 9th inning guy, but the way the batting order for Atlanta played out I can't imagine anyone not understanding why we played it the way we did. 

Hopefully, through Koenig making it back or a current starter being able to move back to the BP, Ashby can get some backup from the left side. If you comprised an organizational depth chart of LH relievers Ashby is #1 and Drew Rom is..........six? Seven? That had no effect tonite, but might down the road, which is all that matters. Two tough games, two tough losses. Happens to everybody. Everybody.

[Bulldogboy]

1 hour ago, wiguy94 said:

The Brewers have done this numerous times. 

2021 - Adames in May, Tellez in early July

2024 - Civale in early July

2025 - Priester in April

Like you said it also takes two to tango and right now there are only 7 teams more than 3,5 games out of a playoff spot and of those 7 teams, 5 came into the season with some intention of competing (Detroit, Boston, Kansas City, NYM, San Francisco)

Willie is a good call. Need another move like that one.

[Jim French Stepstool]

11 minutes ago, torts said:

Levering made it seem like thwy lost thT on a blown 3rd strike check the pitch before.  Is that true?  Was listening on the way to the beach and just turned my phone off and haven't bothered to look so you tell me 🤣

I thought he held up. The frustrating part is there were one or two earlier that were very, very similar & were called swings.

[wiguy94]

6 minutes ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

Couldn't watch the game live; surprised this thread is still going on (which is on me, I guess I shouldn't be). I referred to the above post by Michaelis because it's absolutely correct. I like the idea of Megill being the 9th inning guy, but the way the batting order for Atlanta played out I can't imagine anyone not understanding why we played it the way we did. 

Hopefully, through Koenig making it back or a current starter being able to move back to the BP, Ashby can get some backup from the left side. If you comprised an organizational depth chart of LH relievers Ashby is #1 and Drew Rom is..........six? Seven? That had no effect tonite, but might down the road, which is all that matters. Two tough games, two tough losses. Happens to everybody. Everybody.

Spencer walked back that post a bit when he realized Megill has had reverse splits his whole career. I think the numbers certainly back up that it should have just been Megill as always especially when you take into consideration Ashby hasn't been pitching particularly well lately and he has very little experience closing out games (only 1 traditional save in his career and that was in a 3 run game)

wRC+ vs RHP then vs LHP

Baldwin - 130, 178

Olson - 141, 143

Albies - 101, 120

Harris - 143, 122

Then here are the platoon splits for Megill and Ashby

wOBA vs RHH then LHH

Megill - .298, .190

Ashby - .292, .293

[BruisedCrew]

2 hours ago, just_some_guy said:

That's new this year.  I think every team gets one Saturday off.

 

No, it’s because of the World Cup game. 

There have been other series with days off in the middle because of World Cup games. The current Mets-Phillies series is Thursday, Saturday, Sunday because of a game in Philly yesterday.

The Brewers do not have a Saturday  off this season. 

[BruisedCrew]

38 minutes ago, torts said:

Levering made it seem like thwy lost thT on a blown 3rd strike check the pitch before.  Is that true?  Was listening on the way to the beach and just turned my phone off and haven't bothered to look so you tell me 🤣

I would take anything Levering says with a grain of salt. He and Rotino think the Brewers only lose because of bad luck or bad calls. 

[Jim French Stepstool]

10 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

Spencer walked back that post a bit when he realized Megill has had reverse splits his whole career. I think the numbers certainly back up that it should have just been Megill as always especially when you take into consideration Ashby hasn't been pitching particularly well lately and he has very little experience closing out games (only 1 traditional save in his career and that was in a 3 run game)

wRC+ vs RHP then vs LHP

Baldwin - 130, 178

Olson - 141, 143

Albies - 101, 120

Harris - 143, 122

Then here are the platoon splits for Megill and Ashby

wOBA vs RHH then LHH

Megill - .298, .190

Ashby - .292, .293

Took a deeper dive, and yep it appears to have been negligible at best, with Bart & Dubon especially having no edge vs LHP. So traditionally yeah, but on paper, not so much.

They might have liked Ashby's breaking stuff vs Baldwin & Olson, and despite the splits he pretty much had no issue with either, a K followed by the little league fly ball. As for Albies, tonight it seemed to make no difference who was throwing, but on the season you probably want him hitting LH. So I'll have to walk it back, too.

[wiguy94]

1 minute ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

Took a deeper dive, and yep it appears to have been negligible at best, with Bart & Dubon especially having no edge vs LHP. So traditionally yeah, but on paper, not so much.

They might have liked Ashby's breaking stuff vs Baldwin & Olson, and despite the splits he pretty much had no issue with either, a K followed by the little league fly ball. As for Albies, tonight it seemed to make no difference who was throwing, but on the season you probably want him hitting LH. So I'll have to walk it back, too.

Honestly I have a bigger gripe with Contreras pitch calling to Albies than Murphy's managing. You already saw Albies hit a FB away out to RF tonight and he once again was clearly looking for Ashby's sinker based on him being way out in front on the changeup and nearly chasing the curveball in the dirt the pitch before. You got burned once. Getting burned twice by the same guy in the same fashion was very frustrating. 

[brewmann04]

Sometimes looking at the numbers are not the best way to go 

[HarryDoyle]

Yeah, you can't criticize Murphy for playing matchups if you also were one that criticized Counsell for doing the exact opposite. ("Hader's our 9th inning guy", "x is our 8th inning guy.")

[Brian]

9 hours ago, adambr2 said:

Are prime Turang, Conteras, Miz, and Chourio just chopped liver?

I was talking pitching, thought you would have noticed since they were all just pitchers listed. 

[Brian]

8 hours ago, BruisedCrew said:

I would take anything Levering says with a grain of salt. He and Rotino think the Brewers only lose because of bad luck or bad calls. 

I agree 100%, they are nothing but excessive flattery and praise every game.  Everything is just so incredibly amazing to them. 

[HarryDoyle]

1 hour ago, Brian said:

I agree 100%, they are nothing but excessive flattery and praise every game.  Everything is just so incredibly amazing to them. 

These are the same guys that were thumping for Yelich to be in the All Star Game yesterday. The only way he should make it to Philly is if MLB implements a Ground Out to Second Derby.

[Turning2]

15 hours ago, edfunderburk said:

There you go spouting “facts” again … making your point with actual statistical proof rather than emotion

Metrics are not entirely facts. Stats are calculable facts. 

Claiming the team wins more with player A specifically because of player A over player B (his win above replacement) does not, can not factor in the contribution or detrimental effect of all the other guys that played in those games. 
 

When I search “how is WAR determined”, that is essentially the answer I get. And that is flawed  to the point of being useless data in my view. If you begin with a flawed premise, the resulting data is equally flawed no matter how much it gets cited and normalized. Millions of people can authoritatively say 2+2=5 till everyone accepts it, doesn’t mean it’s correct. 
 

[adambr2]

10 hours ago, Bulldogboy said:

Willie is a good call. Need another move like that one.

Well, be careful who you give away …. While I am by no means calling that a bad deal — Drew Rasmussen would sure look good in this rotation right now. 

I suppose both teams are probably happy with what they got out of that deal.

[JRob1125]

I knew Rassmussen was good, but I didn't know he was putting up legit ace numbers. Ugh

Still great trade though

[LouisEly]

18 hours ago, willie key said:

With our two dominant pitchers though.   You throw our other busters and we are getting 10 runned in these games because we just can’t wait to get frelick at bats.   God

The Brewers have gotten 10-runned exactly zero times this year.

Relax.

[LouisEly]

18 hours ago, TURBO said:

Just curious, if they lose 9 games in a row, by a total of 9 runs, is it then ok to be a little pissed off?

I'm just curious where that line is.

When can we, as Brewer fans, be upset about a loss?

October.

Relax.

[LouisEly]

18 hours ago, adambr2 said:

They threw Miz and Harrison at them. Of course they weren’t going to lose by a bunch. But they still got outplayed by a better team.  They may lose by 8 tomorrow. 

Tarik Skubal won the AL Cy Young last year and he lost 6 games.

Garrett Crochet finished 2nd in the AL Cy Young.  He lost 5 games.

Christopher Sanches finished 2nd in the NL Cy Young pitching for PHI.  He lost 5 games.

Yamamoto finished 3rd in the NL Cy Young pitching for the Dodgers.  He lost 8 games.

Great pitchers lose games occasionally.  Relax.

[TURBO]

Relax.

lol

I think everyone is just fine, but being told to relax for several posts in a row, are you ok?

I think maybe you are either having a stroke, or your keyboard is stuck on the letters R, E, L, A, and X.

[willie key]

17 minutes ago, LouisEly said:

The Brewers have gotten 10-runned exactly zero times this year.

Relax.

Well mlb hasn’t implemented a ten run rule yet so technically that would be true

[brewmann04]

Sorry need your closer to close