The Official "Prince Fielder for Most Valuable Player" Thread

[brewcrewkid14]

I don't know if it is necessary to start up this thread yet, but as we are approaching the last couple weeks of the season I thought it might be necessary to start this thread. Feel free to bump it in a week if it is too early. With his 41st homerun I think it might be necessary to begin the talk.

 

Don't get me wrong, it will be hard for Fielder to win the MVP if the Brewers don't make the playoffs, but he may be the only real liable canidate in the NL this year. I personally feel Hanley Ramirez could make it close with Prince, but because Prince leads the National League in homeruns, a stat that the MVP voters seem to favor, I think he's got Ramirez beat out. I don't think Reyes deserves it, although he is arguably the most exciting player in the NL. David Wright has been hot and is the other guy I think could make a run for it.

 

What do you guys think?

 

 

(edit: removed 'prince' tag; added 'awards' tag --1992)

[biedergb]

He'll easily win if the Brewers win the division. If not, he'll unfortunately lose some votes, and he may still win. Could you imagine if Braun were doing this all season as well -- we have 2 MVP-type players in the line-up.

[pretendastronaut]

There was a discussion on BBTN last night about the MVP races, and only Dusty Baker even had Fielder for consideration, and he had him coming in third.

 

 

 

Granted it was ESPN and BBTN, so take it with a grain of salt.

 

 

 

They were talking about Jimmy Rollins, Utley, and Cabrerra mostly.

[billyhallfan]

I think right now it is Rollins, he has had an amazing year, and look at how many AB's he has. That being said, if the Brewers make the post-season, Fielder should get major consideration.

[PlayerHader]

I think we need to start heading to Brewers.com and make sure that Prince wins our own fan vote for MVP. The fact that JJ Hardy is still leading that is almost embarrassing.

[brewcrewkid14]

BHF, I completely forgot about Rollins. You may be right with that one. I still would give my vote to Fielder over Rollins, though (I may be a bit biased).

[logan82]

Prince hasn't exactly had a big 2nd half so far. That and the Brewers coughed up a 8 game lead in the division. The Phillies have come back from the dead basically to make it a race in the East. So I guess it isn't surprising Fielder isn't in consideration. We had our 24-10 stretch at the wrong time of the year. Now most of the fans are unhappy and Fielder isn't in the MVP talk.

[twobrewers]

Prince is batting something like .250 with RISP.

 

It is hard to have an MVP who hasn't been able to put up the "clutch" numbers.

 

I am not saying that is how I neccessarily see it - but I am sure many voters will take that into consideration.

[JJHardy7]

ESPN.com had a MVP thing a few days ago and Prince's low RISP stuck out real bad compared to the others...he has no shot if the Brewers lose the division. If the Brewers get hot and Prince goes on a streak, I think he has a good shot at it. Think about this though...if all that happens Braun could possibly take a few votes away from Prince. Who would've thought?

[M Skjellyfetti]

I think if a Philly wins it, it should be Chase Utley instead of Rollins. He's hitting .050 points better, getting on base at a much better clip (.075 points better), and slugging better as well. He doesn't have the same number of homers, and he may be downgraded for being injured for a little while, but I still think he's a better option than Rollins. I also think Hanley should get it over Rollins as well as he is outdueling Rollins in those same three categories, and plays the same premium defensive position.

[DannoMac21]

Yeah, I was watching BBTN's discussion on this earlier tonight. They were mostly talking about Rollins and David Wright.

[mothershipconnection]

Granted it was ESPN and BBTN, so take it with a grain of salt.

 

Yeah, they also had Holliday as a legit candidate: a guy who hits a pedestrian .813 OPS away from Coors.

 

RISP doesn't matter for Prince - he's in "scoring position" when he's at the plate.http://static.yuku.com//domainskins/bypass/img/smileys/wink.gif

[endaround]

BA w/RISP is one of those stats that hides more than it tells. Alot of that has to do with the fact that the same ball hit with a man on 2B is an out then when hit with a man on 3B is a SF and an RBI.

[Ennder]

Princes RBi's with RISP are great, its one of those silly stats.

 

It probably comes down to which teams make the playoffs, if PHI does Rollins wins it, if the Brewers make it Fielder wins it, if neither does it goes to Wright. Sad but true.

[joshjs]

I'd love for it to be Fielder, but I have a hunch it'll be David Wright, even if the Brewers win the division.

[Oldcity]

Probably should be Hanley Ramirez, but he'll never win it.

[loghome44]

sporting news said albert pujols...they nreally know there stuff!mainly cuz they thought he was snubbed last year.not a mention on prince.

[sgtcluels]

I think it'll be Utley or Rollins as of now. (Utley if he would have stayed healthy). But if Prince can go on a tare, and get us into the play offs, I think he's got a shot.

[Patrick425]

The fact that JJ Hardy is still leading that is almost embarrassing.

I think the Brewers have some sort of contest where if you vote for team MVP you are entered in a contest to have dinner with the winner. My guess is that there are a lot of females voting for Hardy.

[lcbj68c]

I don't see where the confusion is. Prince is the front-runner right now. ESPN First Take also just validated such.

[lcbj68c]

You got it right Patrick. The only reason my girlfriend voted was because she got a shot at dinner with the winning player. Of course all the ladies are thinking who'd they most like to have dinner with, not who's the team MVP!

[fondybrewfan]

I don't see where the confusion is. Prince is the front-runner right now. ESPN First Take also just validated such.

It wasnt Skip Bayless was it? That biggest idiot on ESPN. I think Prince is a major candidate along with Rollins and Wright. Home runs are very sexy and if Prince continues to lead the league and maybe gets near 120 RBI's hes got a very good shot. David Wright is the best player on probably the best team and Rollins is having an incredible year for SS. Fielder has better numbers than Wright except for BA.

 

By the way has anyone realized the incredible amount of K's Howards has? He is blowing away Adam Dunn in 16 fewer games. He has got a real shot of 200 K's.

[lcbj68c]

Yeah, it was Bayless. But still, Prince is the front runner, hands down.

[endaround]

Just a quick VORP recap in the NL:

 

1) Ramirez 78.7

2) Wright 65.1

3) Cabrera 61.4

4) Utley 61.3

5) C. Jones 60.3

6) Pujols 56.9

7) Fielder 54.9

8) Rollins 54.8

9) Bonds 54.7

10) Holliday 53.7

11) Braun 51.6

[crewcrazy]

If Hanley Ramirez played for anyone except the Florida Marlins, he'd be running away with the award. The numbers he's been able to put up at SS are incredible.