Wise DFA'd

[hawing]

Also, what to do now with my avatar!?

 

Photoshop a tear on Matt's face.

 

I'd rather have seen Aquino gone, but I guess this is one of those "In Doug I Trust" moments. Good luck, Matt; and if you must come back to bite the Brewers in the butt, please consider making it early in the season, so there's time to recover.

[fallingleaves]

Bad move by the Crew, I agreet with brettac1, why not Aquino?

 

Another team will definatly benifit from having Wise in their bullpen.

[Brawndo the Thirst Mutilat]

Would've been better to DFA Aquino, Anderson, or McClung (no reason to believe he'll ever have enough control to be effective).

Would've been best to have simply non-tendered Estrada a few weeks ago, as Mota at 3 mil is (I think) rather obviously a worse option than Wise for next year.

[patrickgpe]

i agree that aquino has less ability than wise, but its a numbers game. Why go to arbitration with someone who really doesn't have a spot guaranteed unless you go with 8 relievers.

[Oldcity]

I agree... I really don't see why Aquino or Anderson were kept over Wise.

[patrickgpe]

I really don't see why Aquino or Anderson were kept over Wise.

well neither of the 3 were / are going to be on the 25 man roster, so i don't see what the problem is.

[danzig6767]

Bummer.

 

If you're just going to DFA guys, why not Aquino?

Yep, Wise at least has a history of success, Aquino has a history of filling up the bases with baserunners

[endaround]

Bummer.

 

If you're just going to DFA guys, why not Aquino?

Yep, Wise at least has a history of success, Aquino has a history of filling up the bases with baserunners

To be fair Aquino will empty them just as quickly as he gives up a home run.

For the 150K it would have cost to keep him through Spring Training it makes no sense.

 

[Ennder]

Would've been better to DFA Aquino, Anderson, or McClung (no reason to believe he'll ever have enough control to be effective).

 

Would've been best to have simply non-tendered Estrada a few weeks ago, as Mota at 3 mil is (I think) rather obviously a worse option than Wise for next year.

Hindsight is 20/20. We didn't know that Gagne, Torres and Riske would all be added to the Brewers before they made the move for Mota. It won't surprise me one bit if Mota rebounds, he still throws hard and it is not like he was having control issues last season (2.7 BB/9 is not bad). His real problem has been in LOB% which is usually a mental thing.

 

As for Aquino, he's been almost as good as Wise over the past 2 years, is younger and has more upside, is cheaper and if I'm not mistake can be sent to the minors while Wise cannot. I understand the reasoning, I just hope Aquino doesn't make the 25 man out of spring training.

[JJHardy7]

I don't see why Aquino or Anderson weren't chosen for this. If it's part of a trade, the value for Mench and/or Wise has to be next to nothing now. I think the Wise move is very questionable, but we'll see what he ends up with in the market. I really do hope they bring him back on a minor league deal, but I think he'll be signed soon by someone else.

 

Does Aquino have options left? I'm assuming he must and maybe that's some of the reasoning here.

[southpaw121505]

Ennder wrote:

As for Aquino, he's been almost as good as Wise over the past 2 years, is younger and has more upside, is cheaper and if I'm not mistake can be sent to the minors while Wise cannot. I understand the reasoning, I just hope Aquino doesn't make the 25 man out of spring training.

 

 

I agree, I'm ok with keeping Aquino and McClung over Wise for these reasons. I don't see a spot for Wise this year, and I think Aquino and McClung are decent emergency options to have on hand at AAA.

 

Plus, he deserves to be gone for eyeing up my girlfriend at Fan Fest.

[Oldcity]

As for Aquino, he's been almost as good as Wise over the past 2 years, is younger and has more upside, is cheaper and if I'm not mistake can be sent to the minors while Wise cannot. I understand the reasoning, I just hope Aquino doesn't make the 25 man out of spring training.

And Anderson? There's just no place for him.

 

[twobrewers]

Is it possible they cut Wise as a favor.

 

They could have let Aquino go now - but the truth is that they will both likely be gone before the season starts. I fully expect Wise to catch on with someone else.

 

Maybe they just wanted to give him a head start. I liked Wise alot - before his meltdown last year, he was a very consistent pitcher in a bullpen with very few. I hope he doesn't get booed when he returns to Miller Park - but I fear he is in line for the Brady Clark treatment.

[Ennder]

As for Aquino, he's been almost as good as Wise over the past 2 years, is younger and has more upside, is cheaper and if I'm not mistake can be sent to the minors while Wise cannot. I understand the reasoning, I just hope Aquino doesn't make the 25 man out of spring training.

And Anderson? There's just no place for him.

 

 

I dunno anything about Anderson. But I think the driving force was Wise wasn't going to fit on the 25 man roster so why offer him arby and pay him over $1M.

[TooLiveBrew]

drew anderson and greg aquino must have impressed someone...or perhaps they have the blesssing of the holy jack z.

Or maybe some compromising pics of the F.O. staff. Maybe he just has the rest of the letters in Jack's surname... you wouldn't want that list out in the open!

 

http://www.dvdtown.com/images/displayimage.php?id=4315

 

 

Best of luck to ya, Matt! Here's hoping you get a nice payday, and that your nasty changeup doesn't come back to haunt us.

[logan82]

With Wise's career batting average I bet he tries to stick with a NL team. He isn't gone yet. I still hold out hope he comes back.

[JohnBriggs12]

Would've been better to DFA Aquino, Anderson, or McClung (no reason to believe he'll ever have enough control to be effective).

 

Would've been best to have simply non-tendered Estrada a few weeks ago, as Mota at 3 mil is (I think) rather obviously a worse option than Wise for next year.

McClung's control is certainly no worse than Turnbow's.

 

Your second point may be valid, but over the course of their careers, Mota has had more success than Wise, and he didn't melt down in a Brewer uniform in 07.

 

The simple fact is there was no room for Wise in the 08 pen. Sure they could have DFA'd Aquino (they still might) but Wise was going get around 1.5 to 2 million in arby. They are also doing him a favor releasing him now when he has time to shop around for a team.

[hp2444]

I don't know what to make of Wise. He was one of those guys who was either really good or really bad. The end of last season he was awful. If all you have is a change up you better be able to throw strikes.

[mothershipconnection]

I'm surprised they haven't been able to trade him. Though he melted down last season, look at what's available on the free agent market. Then look at what Wise will get paid and you figure there has to be a market.

[TheCrew07]

I was very critical of Wise's inability to go multiple innings in a game or back to back day, but I always liked him, I just didn't think the Brewers could afford to limit themselves with a Wise type in the pen. Especially when you're only getting 5-6 innings out of your starters.

 

Best of luck to Matt, I hope he catches on somewhere and bounces back.

[Weirdos19]

In the Major Leagues: Wise at 1M >>> Aquino at 450k

 

At AAA: Wise at 1M<<< Aquino at 450K

 

To keep the more expensive reliever, when they probably won't contribute, doesn't make sense. If these guys get straightened out, they are way better than Wise in 2007.

 

I understand the move. But maybe Wise gets dealt with Bush to get Blalock. Who knows?

[Milltownhooker]

Weirdos19 wrote:

 

I understand the move. But maybe Wise gets dealt with Bush to get Blalock. Who knows?

 

Well Melvin has about 4 hours or so to get that done:)

[Fatter than Joey]

Matt Wise is not very good. I would be surprised to see him get a major league deal.

 

He will --- It's a given.

 

Also, what to do now with my avatar!?

 

Put a big red slash through it? Like Ghostbusters

 

Great, now we got to hire a friend for Turnbow too.

 

Or we could trade Turnbow

 

Would've been best to have simply non-tendered Estrada a few weeks ago, as Mota at 3 mil is (I think) rather obviously a worse option than Wise for next year.

 

Yep.

[Baldkin]

Great, now we got to hire a friend for Turnbow too.

 

I'd volunteer for the job.... but we just signed Gagne for that.

 

I'll miss Matty. He was one of the few guys who was blunt and honest in interviews with the media.

[logan82]

He was my 2nd favorite guy in interviews right behind Sheets.