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Andrews strands both runners to keep the score 10-7 Nashville heading to bottom of the eighth.

Fernando having Abad outing top of eight. Six up, none down. Grand slam followed by a single and walk and now Clayton Andrews is on to try to shut things down still no outs.

Zamora walk (pick off error), Rodriguez walk and a Murray triple plates two more for the Shuckers top of second. And Isaac Collins adds a sac fly to increase the lead to 4-0.

Lead off bomb from Isaac Collins has Biloxi on the board right off the bat.

VanMeter? More like VanCountryMile.

Wiemer couldn’t have done that if he was in Nashville.

Nice bounce back inning for Julio in the fourth as he goes one two three via ground, strike and line outs.

And Cam gets the job done, two RBI single to tie things up. Still only one out with Dorrian due up next.

Teheran had a pretty uneventful first couple innings, a walk and a passed ball was it. Third inning has gone BB, 1B, HBP (ground out) 1B, 1B (OF assist) (ground out) and Nashville trails 3-0 bottom of three. Roller and Toro have each walked as Black steps to the plate one down. And Tyler doubles home the first Nashville run. Now 2nd/3rd with Devanney digging in.

Wisco holds on for the 8-5 victory with Miguel Guerrero (2.1 IP) and Nick Merkel (1.0 IP) closing it out with scoreless appearances, each striking out a pair and allowing one hit. Carolina fulfilling the third leg of the old “sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, sometimes it rains” adage.

Feed was a little low from Adames, but looked to me like Turang was trying to be a little too quick and never got a firm grip on the throw to first.

Top three Rattlers in the order are 0-9, three walks though. Bottom six providing the Timber at 10-15 with three walks and seven of the eight runs scored/batted in.

That would be 11 days since Nightengale said “within a week”…another case for the Nightengaled Files

& they got almost nine WAR for that $210M, so only like $24M per win.

Pretty crazy that the Cubs were hot (13-5 in their last 18) coming into their series against the cold DBacks (3-7 in their last 10), yet Chicago’s still lost the first three games scoring a total of four runs. It’s almost enough to make me believe baseball is gonna baseball and trying to extrapolate small samples of hotness or coldness is of limited utility since the switch can flip at any time with little forewarning.

I was responding to your statement that Counsell hasn’t made a good decision in awhile. Thats why I asked how long is awhile and then provided the teams record over the last couple months where they’ve been among the half dozen best teams in MLB.

How long is awhile? The last eight games where we went 4-4? Before that they won nine in a row. Their 20-12 record since August is 6th best in MLB as is their 34-23 record since July.

Nice, like him better than any of the options that were already on the 40 man. Didn't even realize we had an empty spot this late in the season.

98 games pre-Frelick 86 wRC+ | 4.16 R/G 40 games with Frelick 94 wRC+ | 4.98 R/G 107 games pre-SantanCanha 87 wRC+ | 4.15 R/G 31 games with SantanCanha 93 wRC+ | 5.26 R/G Wherever CC puts them in the lineup, the additions of Sal SantanCanha have definitely given the offense a boost the last thirty forty games.

I think the larger takeaway is that the anticipation surrounding the trade deadline is typically way bigger than its actual impact when the dust is settled. Sure, there are the occasional big move all in superstar trade deadlines like SD in 2022, or Chapman to Cubs, or CC back in 2008, but those are the exceptions not the rule. There’s just as many cases like ATL in 21 replacing Acuna with three mid tier OFs who got hot at the right time, or nondescript guys like Steve Pearce with BOS in 18, or Cody Ross with SFG in 10 where the small sample is the real star of the show. The majority of deadline moves are contenders trying to patch holes without sacrificing their future, because at the end of the day all you’re really acquiring in most cases is a couple months of an average-ish player for reinforcements. Here is a list of every player traded last deadline along with their production post deadline… HITTERS Andrus (191 PA | 119 wRC+ | 2.0 WAR) Reese (108 PA | 145 wRC+ | 1.3 WAR) BetCrt (151 PA | 101 wRC+ | 1.2 WAR) Siri (178 PA | 93 wRC+ | 1.2 WAR) Soto (228 PA | 130 wRC+ | 0.9 WAR) BenTen (131 PA | 111 wRC+ | 0.8 WAR) Marsh (138 PA | 114 wRC+ | 0.6 WAR) Drury (183 PA | 105 wRC+ | 0.3 WAR) Peralta (180 PA | 91 wRC+ | 0.2 WAR) Bell (210 PA | 79 wRC+ | -0.5 WAR) [waiver claim Andrus, two catchers and a glove first CF provided more value than Soto. 2nd best big bat Bell tanked.] STARTERS Quintana (62 IP | 52 ERA- | 2.1 WAR) Mntgmry (63 IP | 80 ERA- | 1.4 WAR) Castillo (65 IP | 86 ERA- | 1.2 WAR) Thor (52 IP | 105 ERA- | 0.7 WAR) Mahle (16 IP | 115 ERA- | 0.2 WAR) Odorizzi (46 IP | 127 ERA- | 0.0 WAR) Montas (39 IP | 165 ERA- | -0.5 WAR) [washed Quintana provided more value than prime Castillo] RELIEVERS Iglesias (26 IP | 8 ERA- | 1.4 WAR) Martin (24 IP | 37 ERA- | 1.1 WAR) Bass (25 IP | 45 ERA- | 0.9 WAR) Rbrtsn (23 IP | 66 ERA- | 0.6 WAR) Pop (19 IP | 49 ERA- | 0.5 WAR) Stratton (22 IP | 72 ERA- | 0.3 WAR) Fulmer (24 IP | 97 ERA- | 0.3 WAR) Effross (12 IP | 55 ERA- | 0.3 WAR) Lopez (22 IP | 114 ERA- | 0.0 WAR) Bush (23 IP | 106 ERA- | -0.4 WAR) Rogers (23 IP | 135 ERA- | -0.6 WAR) Hader (16 IP | 189 ERA- | -0.9 WAR) [“best” reliever traded at deadline pitched the worst]

Stroman and Seiya Suzuki were two offseasons ago, Dansby Swanson was their big signing this past offseason along with Taillon. That’s like $400M in long term signings the last two offseasons to kick start the rebuild. I’m not sure if the Brewers have even given out $400M in free agent contracts in their entire history. Lohse, Aramis, Soup, Garza and Cain are only like $240M combined.

From his usage this year, the Brewers clearly don’t view Toro as anything more than a deep insurance policy or he would have gotten more than 21 PAs with the MLB club. Donaldson has 8 PAs at Nashville, but he’s probably got the best shot of actually getting the call at some point based on name/history alone, Hiura is blocked from PT by Santana, Canha, Contreras, and Rowdy who is barely playing as is. Which prospect would you add to the 40 man and MLB club early? Black? His bat has cooled majorly since getting to AAA and his glove is a liability. Gasser? So he can pitch an inning or two sporadically out of the bullpen in blowouts instead of continuing to make regularly scheduled starts for Nashville? These are all such marginal differences around the edges and at the very backend of the roster (24 of 28 useful MLB players is a pretty good ratio) that’s it’s hard for me to see how it constitutes any kind of 40 man roster construction mess. One of the major reasons the Brewers are where they are at this point even with guys like Willy, Rowdy, Winker, Urias, Taylor, Anderson and various rookies struggling throughout the year, plus Woody being hurt most of the season is because nondescript 40 man depth like Monasterio, Miller, Perkins, Rea, Teheran, Payamps. Peguero, Wilson and Megill have all stepped up and made major contributions at various points.

Obviously lots of time left, but the way teams are currently clumped up it looks like loser of the NLC is going to end up as WC2 playing Philly while the NLC winner will be playing one of the four #6 Seed contenders. Byes ATL (90-47) LAD (84-53) #3/4/5 Seeds MIL (77-61) PHI (76-62) CHI (75-64) #6 Seed CIN (73-68) MIA (71-67) ARI (71-68) SFG (70-69)

There is no good in having him around after tonight, so they will likely option him out and call up somebody else just like they’ve been doing with the last couple bullpen spots all year. Williams, Payamps, Milner, Peguero, Wilson, Uribe, Megill is a pretty formidable Top 7 and a big reason why the Brewers bullpen has been at or near the top of the WPA leaderboard all season long. Chafin would be the last man in the bullpen if it weren’t September. Andrews only had the bonus spot to begin with because Houser, Ashby, Mejia and Teheran are hurt. Plus whatever is going on with Lauer. Looks like Julio, Small and JBB all pitched at Nashville tonight so maybe Eric gets the call back up. Only other pitcher on the 40 man is Junk.