SeaBass

Mmm it's so fun watching the 3rd worst offense in the NFL march down the field against this Packers team.

Packers making the Bears offense look competent is so on brand. Add another dumb Love interception in the red zone and it's a classic Packers crap fest.

I just assumed it was a cat name.

If Jacksonville had anything approaching competence running their offense they could win this game but the Vikings are probably going to safely win as long as they can stop turning the ball over.

I've been in a 12 team dynasty league since 2012. In the 13 years our league has been active we still have 11 of the 12 original members. The guy that isn't in it anymore was kicked out for too many shenanigans/shady trade tendencies over the years until he royally pissed off our commissioner (who is usually a pretty mild mannered guy) and was booted. There's no league as good as a dynasty league, all the guys in ours love it. Super active with trades. I still don't mind redraft leagues but they aren't quite as fun usually, depends on the group that are members of the league, ultimately that's what makes a fun league regardless of format.

Yeah, I pretty much got there on my own halfway through writing that reply. I would think insurance companies would be more than happy to collect a premium payment on that wager and only have to sweat out a 3 week waiting period for a player that is expected to decline the QO.

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reporting the dead cap hit next season will be $5M. "His pro-rated base salary of $3.2 million along with the remaining two years of his deal will now belong to the Steelers. The Packers will gain around $2 million in cap money this year, but Smith will count $5 million in dead money to the Packers’ 2025 cap next year."

But I don't think you can take out insurance on a player that isn't currently on your team. He is technically a free agent, isn't he? Maybe they can since there's a binding offer out there. I don't think insurance providers would say no honestly. They have to weather less than 20 days of a person's clean health.

Admittedly I don't know about any finer nuances of the QO rules (I did a brief review on MLB's website) but if a player that has a QO on the table were to get injured in a car accident to the point he felt that would affect his market he could end up accepting the offer. Can't rule out "life" happening during the time between the offer being made and the last date for the player to decline, which I believe is around Nov 19th. As far as I'm aware the team can't rescind the QO once it's been offered. I could be wrong. But yes, for all intents and purposes Adames is going to decline the offer.

The arbitration process isn't perfect but the players voted to keep it in the last CBA. I think ultimately they do see a benefit there and favored it over the alternative choice offered by the owners. It's not ideal but it does work and is pretty close to fair for most players. The owners are pretty much on record saying they don't love arbitration either. I think both sides are going to continue exploring ways to improve or come up with something better, naturally it comes down to finding common ground in negotiations. It's not going to happen but I'm fairly confident that if the Brewers made an offer to Corbin Burnes in free agency this offseason and it was the best offer for the most years and money, an offer that met his expectations and more, he wouldn't hesitate to accept it. All the bad feelings go away once a guy cashes in big in free agency.

Yeah when I said I thought Willis should be playing it's due to the weather, Love's injury and the way the game is going. I think the Packers can compete with the Lions but today felt like an uphill battle even before things started going bad. I don't think putting Willis in makes a comeback any less likely, his running ability is a different dimension. Nice drive going here though.

After the TD I took a bathroom break, came back and they were punting. Awesome.

Gotta bring out Malik Willis in the 2nd half. No brainer.

LOL just when you think you've seen as much stupid as possible. Love has got to fix this dumb garbage he's doing with the ball and learn to take a sack. On the plus side I just won the halftime score pool at work. Not the TD I was hoping for.

Fortunately they remembered they have a quota of penalties to commit.

I was shouting at him to turn around as the ball was thrown, might as well not even covered him.

Looks like the WR landed right on his shoulder, broken clavicle maybe? That's unfortunate for him.

Wow, that's really how you took that. Really? Yes, I understood you were talking about Whelan improving. I was countering the conclusion you made that when I said "why haven't the LS or holder lost their jobs" you felt I meant the punter, as holder, would be cut from the team. So I clarified. I even used the words "in theory" about choosing a different holder than the punter. Just because the convention now is the punter holds doesn't mean a team would want to cut an otherwise effective punter just because they desired a better option at holder. I'd think they'd see if there were another workable option on the roster already. Make sense? Again, "in theory" because I don't really think Whelan holding is an issue even if he had once had some struggles (which I don't recall but I'll take people's word for it). As for the long snapper my assumption is they would replace him if they felt there were an obvious upgrade available. It makes sense to me that all things being equal they will hope for improvement and continue to monitor open market options as they become available. I don't feel I should have to say this to defend myself but it's apparently too much to ask to assume someone posting on a topic (me) has a basic understanding of existing roster situations. I went on to (essentially) say that issues with snaps and holds would not cause an NFL team to cut a kicker. My entire point is why are we even talking about bad snaps or holds when debating a kicker's performance? The team is judging the kicker's responsibility when the other parts of the process have met acceptable expectations. Therefore, "it's not that big of an issue."

My point about talking about bad snaps or holds is the team wouldn't hold the kicker responsible in those instances, regardless if an attempt still gets made and is added as a missed kick on the kicker's official stat line. I get bringing that point up in a discussion where folks are talking about misses and percentages but anecdotally I don't remember any actual instances of a botched snap or hold obviously affecting a kick to the point it was attempted and missed.

Yeah I'm not in love with the long snapper and I know they've been cycling through them for awhile, as they should. Whelan appears to have improved, he made a great play Sunday on that snap but he wouldn't need to be cut if, in theory, they wanted someone else to hold. Doesn't have to be the punter that holds (though it's probably preferred since it wouldn't drain practice time from another player's usual responsibilities).

On what percentage of kicks? If this is as big a factor as you and others suggest then why haven't those guys lost their jobs? So far it's 2 kickers fired. Seems to me the team laid the majority of the blame on them.

OSS quoted a comment by you that was directly tied to Carlson. My mistake if I misinterpreted the ensuing discussion to be relevant specifically to Carlson but it sure seemed that way to me. https://brewerfanatic.com/forums/topic/43177-packers-2024-season-thread/?do=findComment&comment=1626095&_rid=4446

Missing 7 extra points in five seasons sounds like a dream kicker compared to Carlson who has now missed 6 in 18 games. Edit: Oops, forgive me, if we're including playoffs it's 7 extra point misses in 20 games.

Plus the Reds haven't finished higher than 3rd place in the standings since 2012. With only one recent playoff appearance where they were swept by the Braves in a 2 game wild card series in the 2020 COVID season.

Just listen to all those disappointed Yankees fans: