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Brock Wilken and Luke Adams: Very Unique, Very Alike
jay87shot replied to Steven Jewell's topic in Brewers Minor League Talk
I am excited for some combination of Adams, Wilken, Boeve, Burke, Bitonti, EMJ maning 1st and 3rd for the next 5-6 years. I am convinced there are at least 2 all-stars in that group. I was hoping to see some promotion and see if Wilken/Adams could put up even better numbers in AAA and Burke could do well in the dreaded pitching friendly AA environment. Bitonti with the homer barrage could even be ready for Wisconsin by August or so. -
Here would be a great draft for me. 1st-20)P Kruz Schoolcraft. I heard tons of stuff about a bunch of college arms with helium the Brewers could be interested in. However the 6'8" flame thrower has enough in common with Misiorowski that we would be a perfect fit. Comp-32)P Jack Bauer. Hey may as well pick 2 flame throwing HS picks. I feel like both of these guys are being majorly slept on. With thier raw stuff on how well our development of pitchers has been I am in love with this. Add in that we hopefully wouldn't have to go to far overslot (hopefully based on rankings). 2nd-59) 2B/3B Mitch Voit. Super successful, 5 tool potential Midwest player. Add in that he is still 20 and from Wisconsin I am all for it. Comp-68)P Nate Snead. Used as a multi-inning reliever at Tennesse. Has a big fastball with a solid 5 pitch mix. He should be a guy to easily move to starting. He is ranked in the 140s, so since this is the Levonas pick there is a high rate to sign well underslot. Also another Wisconsin HS kid, double huge arm HS school pitchers and then double Wisconsin kids. 3rd-94)P Reid Worley. HS pitcher that had big spin rates at the draft combine. Ranked in the 4-7 rounds so a potential high upside HS pitcher who could even save some money. https://www.mlb.com/news/craziest-pitch-grip-reid-worley-mlb-draft 4th-OF Damian Bravo. In 2024 lead the big 12 in hitting. Didn't hit as well but power and speed increased. Could be a 5 tool player if it all comes together. 5th-Aidan Teel. Another successful OF from a big conference. Walked as much as he struck out. Not as loud tools but he and Bravo aren't to far off from some of the college OF ranked in the top 50. Another double up, this time on underrated OF that could move fast threw the system and probably save a little money as well. 6-10 college arms/bats. Save money in this portion of the draft. Usually we go mostly pitching but getting a couple bays might be helpful. 11-20 Draft a couple harder to sign/ better ranked HS players just in case one of the earlier HS pitchers don't sign. Otherwise just amass signable talent like they have done well with.
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C=Kelly 2.1 WAR 48 games (platoon with Amaya 1.0 WAR 27 games), 1B=Busch 2.2 WAR 72 Games, 2B=Hoerner 2.7 WAR 73 games, SS=Swanson 2.3 WAR 76 GAMES, 3B=Shaw 0.9 WAR 47 games, OF= Happ 1.8 WAR, 68 games, PCA 4.1 WAR 76 games, Tucker 3.4 WAR, 76 games DH=Susuki 1.7 WAR, 73 games. I agree that the Cubs offense has been amazing but also they haven't had any injuries and basically everyone is overachieving. That is a lineup achieving at 4-8 WAR pace at every position. Yes, the Cubs are really really good, however the bench isn't very good (AAA does have good young prospects) and their pitching staff is iffy. But at some point they are due for a rough 10 game stretch where we can catch up. Tallion isn't scary, Boyd is on pace to pitch more innings than in the past 3 years combined and still not overly scary (but has been great), Horton and Brown have good stuff but haven't been overly effective, and Imanaga is solid no shade there. There pen is also overachieving I like Palancia but after that, meh. Drew Pomeranz hasn't given up a run in 22 games, I doubt he can even throw another 22 games with all the injuries he has had. Add in that their farm system hasn't been quiet lived up to the pre-season hype, still pretty solid but more like a borderline top 10 system as compared to a mostly unanimous top 5 before the year.
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When do we talk about a Misiorowski extension?
jay87shot replied to BrewerFan's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
Ashby and Peralta had a little over a year each when they were extended. With the injury risk of pitching I would say that around this time next year would sound good to me. I like the idea of like 6 years and than have a multi-tiered option system. Say the option for the team is 3/60 but for every top 5 Cy young finish the option goes up 4 million a year. That would give us a chance to extend him and Misi some piece of mind and incentive to do well. I think Julio Rodriguez did something like that but more complicated. -
Thanks for letting me down easy. Maybe in a couple years when he has less control.
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I would see if we can do a trade to add a 1st late. Here are some ideas. Beal and 29 for Lillard I doubt anyone wants Beal, if Pheonix is in full sell it might have to add #29 to get rid of him. Also Dame could have some value next summer on an expiring deal. It would also give us a name and shooter to pair with Giannis. Nurkic, Grant Williams, and 2 seconds (33,34) for Kuzma and Pat C and heavily protected 2031 (like top 20). Giannis gets front court help, this would depend alot on how the Hornets think Kuzma would fit in with Mark Williams, Brandon Miller, Miles Bridges, and #4 (Edgescomb or Bailey) (a lot better than Nurkic in my opinion). 27) C Danny Wolf/Maxime Reynauld Both are big man who would have a year with Nurkic to learn. Wolf is a good passer with some shooting potential and Reynauld is more of a Brook style perimeter player. 33)PG Kam Jones. I think Kam can be alot like Kevin Porter, we need ball handling playmaker bad. 34)PF Johni Broom/Eric Dixon Another big guy to help Giannis, both would assume some of the Bobby Portis role. Broom would be the physicality end and Dixon would be more the scoring option. 47)GTyrese Proctor A good shooter who could play either guard spot. Another guy with lots of experience to be able to play right away. Add in Tyus or Tre Jones to play point (I wouldn't mind Russ Westbrook either) and a couple cheaper wings like last year. Not great but it does get us younger and adds some upside. Tre/Tyus Jones, Beal, FA, Giannis. Nurkic Kam Jones, AJ Green, 2 rookie bigs, FA wing, Proctor, Smith
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I like that idea, he is young enough and the stuff has been good enough that he could get us a nice piece back. In reality he is like our 10th starter once Woody and Cortes are back and will likely be a long relief option for use the next couple years.
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I bring this up every year around now and know that it isn't going to happen. So let me down easy. Jose Ramirez with 3 and 1/2 years left, at almost 33. Any chance the Guardians would trade him? I get that the Guardians owe him a lot for taking a reduced deal and he his the best Guardian since Thome/Manny. However other than Steven Kwan they have no offense and even there pitching is iffy. Pratt, Quero, Wilken/Adams, Hunt, and Wichrowski They get 3 bat upgrades and 2 upside pitchers. We get a piece that gives us a WS chance and we could trade him in 2 years and get most of that prospect value back.
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We have 8 reliable options in the big league bullpen with the 2 upside lefty long men (Ashby/Hall). Add in Yoho, Peguero, Payamps, and Hudson in AAA and we have magnificent bullpen depth to trade a bullpen option or two if it means getting something valuable. I think Koenig is miscast as the 8th inning guy. I kind of like moving Ashby into the 7/8th inning spot with Uribe and having Koenig be more of the 5/6th inning guy with Mears and matchups.
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Well by moving to Turang to SS they would be fixing SS and then Ortiz and Durbin would split 3rd and utility. Possibly improving both IF spots. Right now Ortiz and Durbin have been good enough to get by. My thinking with Albies is that he is possibly the best power bat we could get. Eugenio Suarez is better but the Dbacks are 5 games or so ahead of the Braves and I went with a fresh idea.
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The Braves have been better and there GM said they will be buyers not sellers but in reality they should trade a couple players. Their farm has gotten thin and Sale is out for a bit, I havent checked but I also think they are just a little over the 2nd tax bracket so saving some money might be in their interest. I think Ozzie Albies would be a great guy to go after. Push Turang to SS, Albies has 2+ affordable years so we could trade him with 1 year left as is our tradition. I would love Olsen or Riley but financially that doesn't work. Albies has had injuries and isn't hitting great b lut he would be an affordable bat that has the power upside we could use. My guess is we would have to give up 2 top 10 org. prospects and 2 smaller but not insignificant pieces. Henderson, Boeve, Hunt, and Peguero for Albies??? I get there are a few circumstances this would need to go through to be plausible before the deadline.
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I was thinking around the allstar break. We have an off day July 10th after the Dodgers series and before the Nats series before the break. Put on IL July 10 the 1st off day after the all star break is July 24. That makes a full 2 weeks and he misses 9 games (Nats, Dodgers, Mariners) It also gives Quero a couple more weeks to get to 100% and help Haase. Sorry wrong response quoted, meant to quote the Contreras to IL.
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Great 1st 2 games, top notch in all aspects of the game, Brewers baseball at it's best. Just to note how crazy good our rotation is right now. Freddy 2.76 era, Patrick 3.5, Quintana 2.98, Preister 3.46 (2.23 over last 8 apperances), Misi looking Skenes-ian over 1st 2 starts. Add in depth with Henderson sub 2 in 4 starts, Tobias, injuries pitchers (Woody, Cortes, Gasser) getting started back up soon. Add in a bullpen that is has 8 reliable guys right now and we are cooking.
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June prospect voting results
jay87shot replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Brewers Minor League Talk
I don't have a problem with him being that high, just usually once players turn 25 or so they lose space in various rankings. I still think he will be a good 3/4 starter and have a solid long career. I guess by prospect value I am looking at industry standards comparing age, level, ceiling, achievement, and tools. From my own personal rankings I had him like 21-23 because I dropped him 5ish spots for being older and 5ish spots for the injury. -
As always great report. What is up with Jose Anderson. I thought the org. did a great job of promoting him early from Rookie ball especially with some outfield help in Carolina needed. Is he chasing to many pitches or just struggling in general. With him only at 18 and not yet 100 ab's in Carolina I am not to worried. Love the Hardin call up to AA as well, very similar to Wichrowski last year. Hopefully he can keep the success going. What do you all feel the plan for Bjorn is. It kind of seems like he has been getting like the last 3 innings when he is ready. Is it that they aren't sure if he will start or be a pen arm so they are hedging. Is it just that he would be the 6/7 starter so they are trying to keep him stretched out. He is young so I don't mind the middle ground right now but it would be nice to see him move either to a straight starter, traditional multi-inning reliever, or just late inning reliever by the end of the year.
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June prospect voting results
jay87shot replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Brewers Minor League Talk
I am surprised by Gasser at 7. I get that from a talent and value point that is a fair spot. My only concern is that Gasser is 26 and coming off an injury, with our current depth it is probably likely he won't pitch in the bigs again until next year when he is 27 which just greatly reduces prospect value. -
Jesus MadeJacob MisiorowskiLuis PenaCooper PrattJeferson QueroLogan HendersonLuke AdamsEric BitontiBraylon PayneBishop LetsonMike BoeveJosh AdamczewskiLuis LaraBryce MeccageMarco DingesBlake BurkeCarlos F RodriguezCraig YohoBrock WilkenBrett Wichrowski 21-30 Gasser, Black, Knoth Crow, Hardin, Hunt, Arienamo, Di Turri, Seigler, EMJ With time missed I've dropped Gasser, Black, and Knoth off the top 20 even though talent wise they are borderline top 10. 31-40 Anderson, Fenelon, Antununez, Dorchies, Renz, Dubanewicz, King, Bjorn Johnson I am just putting all the young teenage talent here, in a month or two it should be more obvious which of these are going to take off. 41-50 Corobo, Encarnacion, Montero, Cornielle, Baez, Birchard, Manny Rodriguez, Kuehner, Travis Smith, Leonard Rijo More teenagers and a handful of guys who should be in the top 30 but I just pushed back because of all the younger talent.
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At the end of last year he snuck onto a top 100 list or 2. I think if he hits over 20 HR with a .250 ish average and his normal .420 obp add 20+ sb at 21 making it to AAA he will be a universal top 100 prospect. I had him at 7 on our team update and would have likely had him just outside of the top 100 league wide but in consideration. Most scouting sights don't give his athletism much respect but as he gets seen more that will change.
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With AAA 1B so crowded would it make sense to get Adams some 3B reps again. With Adams and Wilken having the top 2 ops. they should get a promotion to AAA at some point at least to put them in the conversation for the 1B job next year. I didn't realize how drastic the Adams swing change was but dang has it worked. Almost a .500 obp over the past 7 weeks is nuts. DeBerry looks really solid, I didn't realize how thin he is. That pitch mix is perfect especially with the high spin rates. Love the Crow comparision. I have been thinking that if Quero is no longer an 70-80 grade arm but has retained top prospect stays maybe we should trade him while his value is still high. With Dinges lighting it up and William in place we have some time for Dinges to wait. We could maybe even add a higher level catcher in a different trade.
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I don't really see a catcher early, With Contreras, Quero, and Dinges we are probably OK for a while. I like Corobo alot as well and Wood and Miller are nice depth pieces. I wouldn't be opposed to a catcher say after the 3rd. I like Taitn Gray a HS from Iowa. Any thoughts on Gage Wood the 17 k no hit pitcher. He has a big fastball that could translate well and give him a higher floor. I like the potential of Marcus Phillips, another big fastball but at 6'6" 250 big he is built to be a workhorse. He doesn't turn 21 until the end of July. It sounds like his fastball is a bit straight but we can easily fix that and work our changeup magic. He is ranked in the 60's so could be a target maybe anywhere after 20. There are actually quite a few prep starters after 50 that I like.

