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Rowdy should probably be getting 4ish starts a week, like 3 at DH and 1 at 1st.

Our #8 or so starter to begin the year beats the ace of a World Series team. Yeah great win, combine with Cubs lose and an ok badger win. Pretty nice Saturday.

Not to shabby, somehow he has 15 hits in 106 abs with 10 HR's and 1 double. That's a .142 ba with only -.1 WAR and a sub .100 babip or something crazy like that. I also like the Greg Allen pickup, maybe we can finally send Weimer to AAA and get his extra arby year.

I find it weird that all this happen on the same day between a bunch of teams and relatively speaking the same time of day. Maybe it was just reported at the same time?

This is crazy, I would obviously be fine with Giolito, Bader, Lopez and Moore, I could see us swapping a bench guys for one of the others depending on money.

I don't remember where I read the article, it could have been on this site. Devin Williams is on pace to set a record for a stat that measures highest leverage situations. I don't remember what the stat was called but it was a goof read. Sorry for the lack of details.

We do get extra control but I really doubt we tender him a 5 million dollar contract this offseason. Maybe a smaller incentive deal after we decline.

What if trading away guys we went the other way and just keep the main guys and pushed the chips into the middle. By my crude best guesses we will have about 90 million in salary if we non-tender Rowdy, Lauer, Houser (could tender and trade), Huira, and other dead weight. We would have a solid rotation of Burnes, Woody, Pelata, Ashby, Gasser and the same strong bullpen. The lineup would have openings at 1B and 3B if you pencil in Yeli at DH with Frelick, Mitchell, Weimer in the OF. My guess is that would be about $40 million to spend on 2 positions. Another idea I had was trading Burnes in a 3 team deal where we get Tyler Glasnow. Glasnow has 1 year 25 million dollar deal next year but carries some major injury concern. We could do a deal where we get Glasnow and a solid prospect for Burnes, Glasnow has a similar ceiling but we get a prospect to incur the risk of injury. In theory it splits the difference of sell of Burnes for prospects or keep him and potentially lose him for nothing. Here is a rough idea. Burnes to LAD Sheehan/Stone/Pepiot and lower prospect to Tampa We get Glasnow and Hurt/Bruns/prospect 6-15 in system In theory, we could get 1 year of similar to Burnes production, a solid prospect, and still get a draft pick for Glasnow (or extend him cheaper and shorter then Burnes). The Rays save money get a high end mlb ready arm and the Dodgers don't give up the moon for a young ace they could extend long term.

How has Lauer been pitching? I keep forgetting he is an option and haven't heard much on him lately.

He has had a rollercoaster of a year, really bad start was on fire in the middle of the year and then injuries. If he can be more of that middle of the year player he will be a quality mlb player. Maybe Marcus Semien before 2019, or just without the 30+ HR potential is a decent comp.. I am thinking he will be an ideal candidate for the Arizona Fall League and we might get a little better insight from that if he can stay healthy.

I could see him making a big jump and being a late inning option next year. It really would be crazy if he kept it up and Misi comes up at the end of the year. Having Megill, Misi, and Uribe as 3 huge arms in the 5-7 inning areas would be nuts (and probably nerve racking with command concerns).

If we get prospects I really would go for quality over quantity. Our system is so deep right now that getting a lot of younger high ceilings guys sounds nice but doesn't do a ton for the system. I keep thinking of 3 teams deals were we give up Burnes/Woody (possibly w/more) for a young top end IF (Witt, O's young IF w/more, Kim, Duran (Rangers) others). Burnes to the O's for Jordan Westburg and a mid-level prospect pitcher might be a high quality win-win 2 team deal. Westburg has been great at 2B (ok at 3rd) and would make a great MI with Turang giving them a most needed frontline starter and they have money to extend him and even sign someone else. Adames could go or move to 3rd (or Westburg to 3rd) or be traded for a decent pitcher, say to the Dodgers for Kyle Hurt. That would give us plenty of money to find a short term 1B/DH bat (Hoskins, JD Martinez, etc.) or pitcher starter or reliever if Williams traded.

I would love Alonso, however for 1 year I wouldn't give up a top 100 prospect. Weimer/Mitchell straight up seems like an overpay that Mets fans would hate. My guess would be that with all that money the Mets are going to want mlb players. Burnes for Alonso and a prospect say Blade Tidwell would have some juice to me. What would Alonso's contract demands be? Similar to Matt Olsen 8/162, or a shorter higher Ave. 4/100.

I agree Burnes and Woody would bring in something solid, I would put the value of Burnes above the Schezer/Verlander trade but below Castillo. Woody would be more in line with Scherzer/Verlander, the money the Mets ate makes those two deals a little hard to decipher. When it comes down to it there 7 top of the rotation arms potentially available in free agency Ohtani, Urias, Kershaw, Nola, Giolito, Gray, and Snell with some solid #3 starters Stroman, Lorenzen, Montgomery, Paxton, maybe Morton, Lynn, Wacha with a few upside reclamation targets Severino, Ryu, Marquez, Montas. Once those big names get signed the Burnes market should heat up. However with guys like Dylan Cease, Shane Beiber, possibly Glasnow and a Mariners pitcher there will be lots of options for the many pitching needy teams. That being said just about every decent team will need 1 or 2 top line starters so there should be a big market for Burnes even with all the free agents and other trade candidates. I still really really like the idea of a Paul Goldschmidt (plus a prospect) for Burnes. I know we don't want to face Burnes long term but on paper it would be a perfect deal we could afford to extend Goldy another year or 2 after 24' and the Cards can probably pay Burnes a hefty amount to steady their rotation. The Reds would be another great spot where we could land someone like Christian Encarnacion-Strand (not a big India fan). I get in reality there are likely 8 or so other teams that would offer great packages and aren't in division. Adames probably isn't worth dealing unless we get a big mlb ready 2B/SS in another trade, his upside is more than a mediocre prospect or two. I doubt he would take a low ball offer this offseason but I would consider extending him for like 4/50 with an opt. out after 25'.

Any idea of what their pitch repertoire look like, it is almost impossible to predict what a 139 pound 17 year old kid will turn into.

It would be interesting but Dejung l was as bad as Anderson has been. I'd probably rather give someone in AAA a shot if need be.

Bring him up in September if he has a couple more decent starts in AA. He is only at 70ish innings so we won't have to worry about load management. If we want to have a chance at making a run in the playoffs Misi will give us a better chance than bringing up Clayton Andrews. It won't affect controllable years or rookie status because I would guess you start him in AA/AAA next year anyway.

I am running with my previous Witt trade above. Trade Woodruff to the Dodgers for Ryan Pepiot, Landon Knack, and Jorbit Vivas Trade Williams to Texas for Brock Porter, Justin Foscue, Marc Church Flip Jeferson Quero for Curtis Mead Re-sign Miley, Chafin (decline option and sign), and Caratini 1 year deals. Sign Lance Lynn and 1 year deal. Go super young with a plethora of awesome young arms. C=Contreras, Caratini 1B=Black, Mead 2B,SS,3B= Mead, Foscue, Turang, Witt OF= Chourio, Weimer/Mitchell, Frelick, Yeli, Black DH=Yeli SP=Peralta, Ashby, Pepiot, Miley, Lynn Depth=Gasser, Knack, Rodriguez, Misi, Porter Pen=Payamps, Uribe, Chafin, Milner, Wilson, Barlow, Church/Megill/Andrews/etc. Obviously this is crazy but there is a crazy amount of potential in that roster.

Any chance we could make a 3 team deal to get Bobby Witt Jr.? I know the Royals would get destroyed by their fans and would never do it. However from a organizational standpoint they have nothing on the big league roster after Witt and Pasquintino. No quality starters or decent bullpen options. Add to that a weak minor league system with really no interesting prospects above A+ ball. In reality they should trade Witt for 5 or 6 high quality young players. Here's my idea. We get Bobby Witt Jr. and Scott Barlow Yankees get Corbin Burnes Royals get Clarke Schmidt, Chase Hampton, Oswald Peraza, Joey Weimer/Garrett Mitchell, and Eric Brown Jr., Elvis Peguro The Royals get 6 solid pieces that give there rebuild some hope with 4 of those being able to immediately improve the big league team. For us we turn a year of Burnes, an excess OF, and 2 extra intriguing pieces into a generational talent that fits into our youth perfectly. The Yanks (or whoever pays the Royals price for Burnes) get the top non Shohei arm on the market for 3 non top 50 style prospects. I know not happening but Witt would be so perfect.

We probably could get a mid-level prospect or two, maybe a decent mlb reliever (not high end). I would look into trading Willy especially if we get a quality SS/2B prospect in a separate trade. Don't forget we would save a bunch of money by trading him as well. I think Williams will have more value than Hader. Hader had just had a horrific month and had an ERA around 5, if I remember correctly. Paul Sewald got a similar return as Hader this year, so Williams with an extra half year and with half the ERA should have a bunch more. I don't mind packaging him but not with Burnes or Woody.

Jackson ChourioSal FrelickJeferson QueroJacob MisiorowskiTyler BlackCarlos F RodriguezRobert GasserBrock WilkenAbner UribeLuis LaraEric Brown JrCooper PrattJosh KnothMike BoeveEric BitontiLuke AdamsYophery RodriguezDaniel GuilarteDylan O'RaeLogan Henderson Bradley Blalock, Jadher Arienamo, and Juan Baez are knocking on the door of the top 20. Carlos Rodriguez has one of the best AA pitchers at 21. He should be on the top 100 overall soon my opinion. We need to move O'Rae, Baez, Chourio, C Rodriguez, Henderson, and Blalock up a level. I am also glad to see our draft picks playing well.

I am still on board trading Williams for a big package but what about keeping Williams and trading high on Payamps? Payamps has 3 years remaining so by no means would we need to trade him. I would guess this would depend a bit on how you feel about Payamps future (and Uribe's readiness). If you look at Joel as a closer for a year or two, probably no. I kind of like the idea of getting a better package than the M's got for Sewald. Keeping Williams 1 more year with Uribe in the 8th. Than trading Williams after 2024 and more effectively supporting Uribe's path.

I'd put Milner in the 7th role when down 1 or even and Uribe when down 2 or 3 or down 1. If Uribe does well then come September I'd just turn over the 7th to him.

Add in Weimer's massive problems vs. RHP .179/.278/.279 Winkers overall lack of aggressiveness .247 slugging Rowdy's June 170/215/227 (it worse if you add the last week of May and 3 games in July saddly Miller's July 178/210/247 Anderson night game trouble 191/286/309 Overall ineffectiveness of Taylor/Tapia/Voit/Singleton/Brosseau/Urias The problem is that Counsil has continually pushed out guys in spots to fail. I don't mind the approach of a guy has a bad game or two so through them in the fire, but if the guy has a bad week find a new batting order or give them a couple days off like we did Willy here. I don't like that it seems like our batting coaches don't make adjustments in game well.

I feel like Yeli should still be productive for a couple years and if he is a 4 WAR player he does have value. However in a trade we are still going to have take back some type of contract back. On top of that our non diehard fan base would be ticked if we trade most/all of our vets. I still prefer to hold him another year or two while he is productive and then trade him when he is a bit closer to 35.