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I don't mind Rea for 1/3.5, however this worries me that we are going to sign like 4 or 5 guys for cheap 1 year deals and get no real difference makers. We hit on Miley but last off-season wasn't great, especially since we knew we needed some offense help.
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Joe Jimenez got 3/26, he was good last year but has been really up and down. That should mean the relief market will be strong. It probably means guys like Williams, Payamps, Wilson, and Peguero (Milner if you want) should all have really strong trade values.
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Sorry for all the scenarios but here's another 1) Burnes to Toronto for SS/3B Orvelis Martinez, P Alex Manoah, and 1B Spencer Horwitz This depends a bit on how you value Manoah but we get a top 100 prospect, a potential/former top of the rotation pitcher, and intersting 1B option. 2) Payamps and Robert Moore for 2B Connor Norby I kind of have developed a thing for Norby, the O's get bullpen helps and a lesser prospect we get a power hitting 2B. 3) Weimer for P Gavin Stone We get a pitching version of Weimer essentially. 4)Willy Adames for P Trevor Rogers and 1B Troy Johnston The Marlins fill a major hole, we get an upside arm and another interesting 1B option. Pickup option on Canha, sign a vet minor league contract catcher and a bunch of minor league contract arms. Basically no DH (splits between Canha, Yeli, Contreras), Black at 3B, Martinez to AAA but Turang gets short leash if the bat isn't better. Rotation goes 6 deep with some great upside if Manoah and Rogers revert to better selves, the bullpen is still a strength.
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I am a bit more interested in picking over the bones of teams like the Ray's and Pads who are overbudget and will likely need to sell off some key players. Maybe even a team or 2 with new management like the Mets, Marlins, or giants.- 4 replies
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The O's are so deep with young bats it's amazing C-Adley, Basallo IF-Mountcastle, O'Hearn, Urias, Mateo, Henderson, Westburg, Ortiz, Norby, Holiday, Mayo OF-Mullins, Hays, Santandar, Cowser, Hjerstad, Bradford, Beavers And that's skipping some guys like Stowers, Frazier, Vavra, McKenna They could probably trade for 2 aces and still have a top notch young lineup.
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Agreed, he should be able to stick a starter as long as he can stay healthy. Even if his walks are a bit high his stuff is going to get him out of some jams. Not only the strike outs but the movement he gets on all of his pitches should get him a lot of double plays. Really with him throwing at a slightly lower arm slot and the high effort in his delivery, injuries are my only concern with him long term. The 7.5 feet extension is really impressive, especially since he can probably find a few more inches as he learns his mechanics and improves body control. I would be ok with him piggy backing with a guy like Ashby say halfway through the year. Both go 60-70 pitches and overall reduced both work loads.
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I have pushed a Weimer for young starting pitcher idea (Gavin Stone). That would make our OF situation easy. 1st 30-60 games LF Yeli, CF Frelick/Mitchell, RF Taylor/Mitchell When Chourio come up, LF Frelick CF Chourio RF Taylor/Mitchell, DH Yeli I would love to see Yeli attempt to learn 1B, he is athletic enough and after picking up fielding ground balls 1B isn't crazy difficult to figure out. However I feel like that would have been brought up/eluded to at some point if the club seemed inclined to do that. I am still for trading him but I don't know if he waves his no trade except for Cali (maybe a big money contender).
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Move Marinaccio to the Brewers or change him in Trey Sweeney?
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Grissom's only red flag is his defense. he was passable in 2022 at 2nd (not great) horrific at SS this year. He is a good athlete and my guess is he will be fine at 2nd long term. Any chance we could get into a Soto trade as a 3rd team. SD gets Burnes, Oswaldo Cabrera, Ron Marinachio Yanks get Soto, Houser We get Clarke Scmidt, Chase Hampton, Graham Pauley SD gets Burnes, a young OF, and established pen arm. The Yanks get Soto (and Houser) and we get 2 high upside arms, and a solid IF prospect. That would be more than we would get in a Burnes alone deal.
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I still think we could find a way to get Lowe or Raley. Weimer still. could be an option to get one of them if Adames isn't on the Ray's radar. I feel like the Ray's will do a bunch this offseason as there team is quickly getting more expensive. Harold Ramirez, Jonathan Aranda, and one of those prospects (Mead) could be good targets.
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What about this as a 3 team deal We get Luke Raley, Brandon Lowe, Manny Margot Rays get Willy Adames, Joey Weimer, and a reliever (Wilson/Peguero) We then flip Margot for a vet 1 year pitcher, say Sean Manaea Raley would be a great 1st baseman for the future and Lowe would be great a 2B. Adames fills the SS hole and Weimer and the reliever give them some young upside to and Margot balances out money for the Rays. Probably needs some editing Raley/Lowe and Margot for Adames and reliever maybe works better
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Jackson Chourio Contract Extension?
jay87shot replied to Brewcrew82's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
I would want him to get at least 1/2 a year in but once he does and is successful I would go all in on him. My guess is that in 6-7 years when he would be a free agent superstar will be getting 40+ million easy. To go say 8/120 or 11/182 would be worth the risk. -
I think Gasser is a good bet to get a rotation nod this year, it would be nice to get Miley back in part to mentor Gasser (and Ashby). I would put his ceiling and floor similar to Carlos Rodriguez, good chance to be a #3 starter probably worst case decent 4/5 starter.
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What about Gio Urshela as an under the radar 3B signing, he was pretty good defensively there last year (only 270 innings) but has been a solid bat most of his career and would probably fit into a 1/2 year deal at a reasonable sum. We would still have Black and Monte to cover if injuries occur, and Gio can play some 1st or 2b if needed.
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I don't have the numbers but 1st, 3rd, 2b, RF, DH, CF all were really poor for offensive season stats. So lets say Burnes is worth 4-6 WAR next year. In my head, trading Burnes gets us a 2nd/3rd baseman that hopefully adds 2 WAR, maybe a piece 2B/3rd that adds 1 and signing Severino or a different vet pitcher is like 3 WAR the parts traded for and the $ used elsewhere provides a similar value
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Wow 280 out of 330 on fastballs and Turang 328 of 330. Great stats find, one would think that working on hitting fastballs would be on the easier end of training for the offseason.
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I don't think trading Burnes gives up the season, my thinking is that by trading him we would play a little moneyball. Add a young starter that can take up part of his value, possible a 2nd piece as well, and then use the money he is owed to improve somewhere else. I agree getting a good prospect like Porter/Leiter wouldn't be ideal since they would be a bit away. My scenerios would be him going to LA for Pepiot and Miguel Vargas or Balt. Mayo and Norby and then signing a vet arm with upside like Luis Severino for a year to make up for Burnes. I probably would trade whomever gets a better overall package between Burnes and Williams. Burnes carries more value as a starter but Williams has an extra year and some teams will be desperate for a lockdown closer and may overpay with Hader as the only high-end closer (assuming Kimbrel is not lockdown any more).
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I like the Cueto comp. from the article, I see CRod having a pretty high floor but lower ceiling with the current repertoire. Probably a ceiling in the Freddy Peralta realm as a high end 3/passible 2 with a floor of a solid 4/5 starter. At 21, wouldn't surprise me to see him add a couple mph and raise that profile but he is that big/tall to just clean up a small issue and get a couple ticks.
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Quality controllable relievers have value. 1.5 years of Paul Sewald got a slightly less but similar package to Hader. Both of those guys have 3 years of control, had 1.5 WAR, around 2.5 era's. I set my sights high on value, there are only 10-12 decent relievers and Payamps and Wilson won't make nearly as much as them. I agree that my returns are high but someone could very well overpay for either guy.
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We discussed Burnes or Williams for young guys. Would there be any vets that would fit into a trade. Maybe even trading a blocked-ish prospect like Quero or Weimer/Mitchell for a proven bat or arm. Burnes for Jeff McNeil, David Peterson, and Blade Tidwell would be interesting. The Mets have McNeil, Baty, Acuna, and Mauricio for 2B and 3B, if they keep the 3 young guys McNeil would seem to fit our front office goal of getting contact first players. Peterson is an upside lefty who was better after a terrible start (another good arm our staff could fix). Burnes for Gleybar Torres, Chase Hampton, and 3rd piece For some reason the Yank fans don't like Gleybar much, he would be a solid bat at 2B and then Hampton would be a high upside arm for the long term. Maybe Weimer for Gleybar and a midlevel-prospect as well works. Other ideas?
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I find it crazy that we have an 18 year old who hit well in high A ball with advanced skills across the board (not power) and he really hasn't garnered any top 100 notarity and is #8 on our list. I guarantee if Lara was in a big market he is a top 100 prospect. I kind of get a Jimmy Rollins (OF version) from the highlights I see of Lara.
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I thought Pratt looked a lot like a raw JJ Hardy. The bat has more upside at this point of his career. Probably the prospect I am most excited to follow next year.
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Brewer Fanatic 2023 Awards: Most Valuable Player
jay87shot replied to Kyle Ginsbach's topic in Brewer Fanatic Front Page News
Hard not to say Contreras. Special props to the bullpen in general, no doubt they were the biggest overall change from last year to this. -
Pretty sure I remember an announcer say bo-vee. That doesn't mean he was right. He was announced for the draft as bo-vee as well.
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I like Boeve but he is lower on my list of prospects, with questions around power, speed, and defense guys like Brown, Adams, Bitonti, Y Rodriguez, and Knoth all have much bigger upsides for me. Boeve probably has a pretty high floor if his hit tool stands and he can be a solid utility player but I don't see much upside unless he stays a .300 hitter or really develops a lot more power which he didn't show in Appleton. I still loved the pick of him, saving money and getting an upside IF piece that our organization should do well developing.
