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???? How does he make us better???? Obviously he is going to DH a bunch but by doing that Yeli plays the OF more and takes ab's from our young guys. Sanchez will be fine against lefties and should hit in AFF but he is a low BA/OBP and has no versatility. After the 40 games or so against lefties he is no better than the next man up. We have now spent 20+ million on Junis, Sanchez, Bauer, Haase, Ross, Rae, Clarke . We could have just signed 1 or 2 good players and not had an excessive roster crunch (we have like 32 worthy guys to make the roster). On top of that we have traded for Bauer and Clarke and had to release Small, Andrews, and a player to named for Sanchez.

By baseball trade values Adames is worth 11.1 and Turang is worth 16.8, I would just rather trade Willy. Trading Turang doesn't make sense unless we get a contollable MI back. I am waiting for Adames to SF

At this point I think we are done adding pitchers, we have like 17 worthy opening day roster pitchers and like 7-8 of those could start. Pretty much the same for bats, unless we trade Willy I could then see spending some money on another bat but even then it blocks someone young from ab's.

He is a good on field leader, keeping things light and making team signs for hits and Homer's. However it is hard to know if he is the guy to be giving mental advice and mentoring young guys. He could be great there to but who knows other than the club house guys.

If we could get 1 solid prospect around our top 10 and an interesting 2nd piece (lotto type prospect) I would be in. The Giants seem like a good place, I would think Marco Luciano still needs some time. The Giants have plenty of interesting secondary pieces that would interest us. The Marlins as well, they might not have a lot in the farm system but they do have intriguing pieces. I doubt the Dodgers do a deal at this point with Lux and Rojas but then again what is another 12 million over the cap. I would still wait until a week or two before the season and see if there is an injury or two that creates a bidding war.

I would say Adames is the emotional on field leader. That doesn't mean he is the clubhouse leader. The guy who steps in when things are rough and rights the ship or takes a young guy under his wing and what have you. It could be him but unless your in the clubhouse day to day that is hard to tell.

If Tyreek Hill is allowed to play football, Bauer should have a pitching job. Sorry, I really detest Tyreek Hill.

I don't think trading Turang makes sense, his trade value would be low and his upside is well above the other 2B candidates. Unless we are swept off our feet for Adames before the season, I think our IF is fine. 3B Ortiz, SS Adames, 2B Turang, when Black comes up in Mid-May-June then Black splits time between 3B, 2B, 1B, DH, maybe occasionally OF. If Black shows to be a decent defender at 1 spot then you can shift the IF accordingly when Adames leaves.

He was pretty good later in the year. His k/9 was 10 compared to a career rate around 8. Junis isn't a sexy name but could be a Wade Miley type add. There are probably 4 or 5 other starters I would have preferred but I can live with this. It does however muddy the bullpen depth even more, Ross gets kicked to the pen for sure. Gasser in AAA likely. Peralta, Miley, Junis, Rae, Ashby/Hall Williams, Uribe, Payamps, Megill, Milner, Wilson, Peguero, Clarke, Ross, Vieira, Ashby/Hall 16 pitchers for 13 spots.

I think the problem is if you run into a bad outing the rest of the pen isn't deep enough to make up for a couple bad outing in a row. In my scenerio it would really only be the last month of the year so we would have an extra pitcher to cover. Maybe 3 full time starters and 4 piggyback could work for the year that would leave 6 relievers.

1)M's get Yelich (we pay 4 million a year (20 total)) We get Bryan Woo and Mitch Haniger, Yelich is a perfect leadoff in Seattle and fills in an OF hole. We get Woo as a longterm piece and Haniger offsets some contract concerns. Haniger can DH and not hinder our young OF talent. 2) Adames to SF for 3B/SS Casey Schmitt and P Trevor McDonald Giants have some money and the need at SS. Schmitt would make a 4 man rotation between 2B, SS, 3B (some 1st or Dh) between Black, Turang, Ortiz, Schmitt. McDonald is a solid Blaylock-like pitching prospect. 3)Elvis Peguaro and Andruw Montesario for Blaze Jordan and lotto prospect. With too many bullpen options we need to offload someone. I doubt we get an overpay for Williams so wait until mid-season and let Uribe learn. Peguaro and Montesario have the upside to get a high end power bat like Jordan. If we add Schmitt, Monte becomes expendable (unless Owen Miller gets the deal done instead) 4)Bauers and Rae to Tigers for Comp B pick Not sure we are allowed to trade Rae but adding Woo makes him unessecary, Bauers is in the same boat. The Tigers could use a depth upgrade and a comp B pick is just our style. 1)LF Frelick 2)SS Ortiz 3) C Contreras 4)1B Hoskins 5)DH Haniger 6)RF Mitchell/Weimer 7)3B Black/ Schmitt 8)CF Chourio 9)2B/SS Turang (Miller, Haase extra bench) 1)Peralta 2)Miley 3)Woo 4)Ashby 5) Gasser 6)Hall Williams, Payamps, Uribe, Megill, Wilson, Milner, Clarke/Ross/Vieira Not bad, I would request to save the 50 or so million we are saving and put it into a starter (Woodruff maybe) next year.

I doubt it, making a move at the deadline or next year make more sense to me. Giving up 3 top prospects when the year is iffy at best doesn't scream Brewers. Quero is a good beginning piece to land a star but I would just wait. Let the process play out and see how our young talent plays. We are at a point we have uality young controllable talent at every position including pitching.

At this point, I think we hold on to Adames until the deadline. If he plays well he can increase his value especially when a couple players get hurt throughout the year. We can find playing time for Ortiz at 3rd and give Black a month or two in AAA. Williams might be in the same boat. I think trading an OF (maybe Yeli) and bullpen depth (Wilson, Milner, Peguero) would be the way to go.

Ortiz isn't going anywhere my guess is Black starts at AAA (to gain extra year of control) and Ortiz is 3B. When Black comes up. Black plays some 3B and some 1B (Hoskins DH) until Adames get traded.

Are we able to re-vote if another deal/deals happens in the next week or so? Does DL Hall still meet prospect status? I know mlb.com doesn't have him on our list but I thought our standards were slightly different.

If it is both Willy and Weimer/OF I would need Cabrera (or Max Meyer) back. If it is just Willy I would be ok with Rogers and a mid-level prospect (we could probably eat some of his contract to ante up the prospect)

Here is hoping to a couple shortstops getting hurt in spring training from big market teams, get a Willy bidding war going. What do you think of this as an September rotation 1)Freddy 2)Miley/Misio 3)Ashby/C Rod 4)Gasser/Ross 5)Rae/Hall (or mlb ready prospect from trade for reliever/Miley/Adames/etc) We piggyback 8 guys as starters (I know crazy) but essentially we would be reducing the young guys innings, getting lots of experience, and putting guys in good situations (harder thrower with lighter/lefty with righty). We would have room for 5 bullpen arms after the rosters expand to take care of 2-ish innings (Uribe, Megill, Payamps, Peguero, Vieira). It would require trading Williams, Milner, Wilson and Clarke at the deadline. OK again crazy but interesting.

I think most fans would concede we knew this was going to happen if not in the offseason probably at the deadline. I think the slight disappointment is that we didn't get 1 shiny stud prospect. If this was Basallo, Hall, and a lesser prospect everyone could dream on the 40 HR potential and upside. Ortiz is going to be are really solid player but realistically a guy who hits .260-.300 doesn't walk or strikeout a ton, hits 10-15 HR's and doesn't steal a ton of bases. My mind is picturing JJ Hardy with less pop (modern day Nico Hoerner). That is a lot of value, he just isn't a sparkle as everyone hoped.

Ortiz has a Nico Hoerner type comp to me relatively unspectacular but a guy who can be a positive contributor in every game. DL Hall is probably an Ashby comp for me, great stuff, with experience and minor editing could be a huge success. The pick is solid just a wild card, with how solid our last couple drafts have been I am ok with the gamble. I am going to count this as a borderline top 100 prospect value we just may have to wait until midseason 2025 for that value to come to fruition.

At this point for me. 1)Peralta 2)Miley 3)Rae 4)Ashby 5)Gasser 6)Hall Ross, Wilson as long relief Go with the highest upside starters at this point. Make adjustment as needed during the year. I like Ryu but fear he is to mich like Miley and wouldn't be as effective facing similar lefties. Lorenzen, Clevinger, and 2nd tier starters don't have enough upside to bury our young guys in my opinion. Snell and Monty to expensive. I could live with Bauer but am hesitant. Probably can add some young arms by trading other vets.

Adames, Williams, Milner, Yelich all possible to be dealt. Adames and Bryse Wilson for Edward Cabrera (we eat 1/2 contract) Milner for Abrimelac Ortiz Yelich to Giants for Conforto, Keaton Winn, Mason Black/Hayden Birdsong Williams trade mid-season

I am in between here. After signing Hoskins, I was excited to go for it. Ortiz, Hall, and a pick is 3 interesting pieces but nothing high end. Ortiz is solid but doesn't have much power or speed, kind of contact/defense prospect. Maybe a super utility guy this year and he and Turang make a solid MI for a while. Hall has a top notch arm and will be a great reliever. I still would try to turn him into a starter though just to maximize value. This might make trading high on Hoby a possiblity. The comp pick is great but to be honest I would have preferred an equivalent prospect a bit further along, however the prospect that would fit that value is probably Dylan Beavers who we possibility.

I agree that this year we need Ashby to break out, in theory Peralta takes over Woody's #2 spot, Ashby takes over #3. I don't know if Peralta fit the breakout definition to me and I would say Uribe got enough recognition that breakout might br iffy. My 3 breakouts 1)Ashby Agree 2)Megill I doubt Payamps, Milner, and Wilson are all as solid as they were last year, for me Williams is the 9th, Uribe 8th, and Payamps 7th. Megill has the upside to throw 60+ innings with an era under 2 and 100 k's (Imagine 3 relievers at the end of our pen with the ability to have 100 strikeout years) 3)Weimer/Mitchell/Turang I feel like we need one of the young guys bat to break out big time. I think Frelick will hit for average but we need one of the 3 I mentioned to develop into a reliable top of the order (1-5) bat .270/.350/.450 with 25 HR. Specifically Weimer or Mitchell since they have power potential. I will leave Chourio out but it could be him as well.

A similar package for Polanco from us would have been Peguaro, Houser (M's ate 8 million of Deslafani deal), Lara, and maybe Edwin Jimenez. That still not be better than what the Twins got and is likely more than I would have given up for him. Probably a win/win deal unless Gonzalez turns into a star.

JB Baukauskaus, Bradley Blalock (if not pitching well in AA), Bauers. Clayton Andrews.