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Sure, but... Adebo was also a nearly ideal fit for the scheme Hafley has talked about, he's been an outside CB in his career. He's had primarily one injury and by all accounts, he's come all the way back from that and... he led the league in passes defended when he got hurt last year and he was...at least graded as a Jaire type CB the year before as well as a top 100 player in Football going into '24. You're also right. These contracts are getting crazy. They signed Brett Favre ~25 years ago to a massive record setting contract. One that was 10 years 100M. They just signed an above average Guard to a 4/77M deal. So we've got to adjust to the contracts. But that makes Adebo's look better to me, not worse. We're going to have eaten probably 200M in dead cap in the last 4 seasons. 35M? And it'd be 13M in dead cap next year and 5M 2 years in. So fairly low risk relatively speaking. Reed, Ward, Davis, Murphy were all CBs who fit with the Packers better than... at least at the time it looked like Hobbs fit. That and we passed on some really good young CBs. Amos, Thomas, Nohl Williams... Conversely, Morrison and Revel... they haven't done much. And all of this is the pre-season(Morrison was picked ahead of us anyway, so it's like arguing about Terion Arnold). Finally-Will Johnson was as close to the Quinyon Mitchell the year prior. Johnson was a protected top 5 pick and has been one of the best rookies thus far. THAT would have been a HR swing and it would have required a trade up...and they've traded up before. But he also had injury concerns. But he's a prototype for what Hafley wants. That said, Hobbs is a physical player. Bullard is very good vs the run. Nixon, good vs the run. Williams, McKinney...and they can play zone. Get after the QB with 4 and you have a 5th in Cooper that's one of the best rushing the passer. On top of that, Gute seemed determined to upgrade the edge position... which I hoped they'd do with maybe Crosby... MAYBE Garrett(though less confident in a couple 1sts+ for a guy closer to 30) and not a fan of the Hendrickson idea as he was 31 and Parsons really never seemed real. But if you look at the off-season in that context, everything but letting Slaton leave makes a LOT more sense. CBs are as reliant on the pass rush as a RB/QB is on the OL, a WR on the QB. So in that context, Hobbs, Bullard, Nixon, Valentine, it makes more sense; Gute Feb 2nd; And then Feb 25th at the combine; So... again, it seems like they went into the off-season with a plan to address the OL, I'm assuming, given how the Alexander thing played out, they wanted to keep Jaire, but... likely didn't want to pay him more than 8M and per Jaire's Dad, none of that money was GTD(to be taken with a grain of salt) but they were also fine building a team that had a front 7 that could get after the QB and use their CBs to play more physically and play against the run.

They still have 9 top 100 prospects and a bright future. I don't love how we all go at a guy like @greenlawlerfor wanting to add... when his take was pretty reasonable IMO. Didn't agree, but reasonable and understandable. It WAS a pretty reasonable argument to make to want Suarez to play 3B or Naylor as a LHed 1B option... until Vaughn came on. Someone even said Andujar. I didn't think that was a good idea. He's been awesome. Hindsight makes this easy. We probably should have gone after a high leverage reliever. I said that thinking we could move guys down a slot(and I didn't think we'd replace Megill). So am I right or have circumstances that I couldn't have predicted made me right(it's the latter). Suarez could have stayed hot and the Mariners could have won 2-3 games because of him. My point is... you don't know how it'll work until after and that still doesn't make your rationale right or wrong. Hell, I didn't like a trade they made. I still trust the FO, just... didn't like it. My ENTIRE opinion about the trade deadline lines up pretty closely with the playoffs. You're not betting solely on luck, but it does a lot of the heavy lifting. Guys get hot(Miguel Andujar) or guys slump(Suarez)... same as a playoff series can be lost by the better team and hinge on a few at bats or bounces. The Brewers probably win that Arizona series a few years back if just 2-3 balls for us that were hit hard with men on base found the OF grass and a few of the balls AZ hit that were bloopers didn't. So if you're going to make a trade, make one that gives you a few years, a few shots. Hell, I'm probably THE Brewers fan who thought we should have traded for Greinke over CC back in the day. 2.5 years vs half a year of CC(and then the Royals extended Greinke, buying out 2 more years of FA right after that 2008 season). So it's hard for me to fault the Mariners... as you point out, they look great on paper and again, still have 9 top 100. You never know who is going to be that Carlos Beltran or Cespedes type player as a rental. Hell, there's another team in Wisconsin right now that's pretty giddy they just gave up a VERY valuable package of future assets in what looks like they'll be two extraordinary drafts for the right to pay a player a whole lot of money, not too dissimilar from what the Cubs did. I imagine if we'd traded... say Ortiz, maybe Quero and then a lower level reliever for Kyle Tucker, we would view this year a bit differently(difference being the Cubs did not extend Tucker and I don't think they will, but he'd look great in RF with Frelick in CF). So I don't know, I was good with what we did, I get the take that we should have done more and I don't anyone's really been proven right or wrong, it's just... baseball. Part of the fun is in the discussion around the moves.

I wanted them to go get a guy like Duran or... there were a few rumored to be available... but when you see Mason Miller cost De Vries... nah. Made and Chourio may be the Young and Molitor in 2027, '28. The other two relievers from the Twins were also guys I liked...and I know Jax has struggled(still think he can get it together) but I don't think they've been great. NOW looking at it, I'd have given up Henderson for a pitching upgrade. At the time I thought he would be one of the pitching upgrades. But I'm a month ahead of you in time.

It's the Brewers. They're going this heavy on pitching... they'll definitely find a couple. He was just listing the guys 3-4 years away and not even touching on some of the high upside arms we just took in this draft... Plus, we've got several guys who have high upsides who'll be pitching in Carolina next year(or AZ). Flores has high upside. Them loading their draft classes with prep arms the last couple years plus the guys in their system now PLUS they have Mis, Henderson, Gasser, Ashby, Myers, Patrick, Priester... they have the luxury of not NEEDING anyone to really be ready in the near future. 2 years ago we wouldn't have been counting on at least the last 3 of those guys.

I think October is actually... one of the better months. August is one of the worst and Sept is the worst. But I'd agree with Nate. Just keep buying. If you're in long-term, you'll be good. I am selling AMD, but... I'll just put more into TSM and GOOGL(which I still think is undervalued). I also feel like I should buy PLTR, but... I can't help but feel like there's going to be a chance to add some lower. And I keep saying that and I haven't found a price that I want to add at(since April and I didn't buy in April).

As big a Turang fan as I am, right now this past August is doing a LOT of the Heavy Lifting for his career outlook moving forward. You'd have to really be of the belief he's closer to that guy than he has been most of the rest of his career... which is an elite defender at 2nd with a ~.680 OPS. I think he is... I don't know that it'd be smart for Turang to turn down 9 figures. I think he's going to be a more reliable offensive threat, but we'll see. Hard to know if the Brewers would even offer it...

That has been an ACTUAL argument. MLB wants the Brewers to win because it's better for them financially. This was during the meltdown by Cubs fans when the Cubs were playing... mostly decent, but we were on that insane run. 26 of 30. We had a 15 game swing on the Cubs and during that period, they were the 2nd best team in the NL. But yeah... it was obviously because MLB does BEST... not when it's the Cubs and say Red Sox or Yankees-Dodgers, but... the big market Brewers!

+6 on the Cubs... though, they own the Tie-Breaker... BUT winning 1 of 2 from Philly was huge. We have the Tie-Breaker there and the Dodgers are 8.5 back. So more like 5.5 and 9.5 with the Tie-breaker. If we get everyone back from injury, we'll be good. If now, it's gonna be a rough road. Yelich and Megill are really the main 2, but Mears, Hall, they're huge. Henderson is pretty much shut down, right? Biggest race is the healing properties of some of our pitchers. I think Koenig is also owed a bit of an apology... though perhaps not on here. He was getting trashed on other sites.

I love the Brewers and... I guess it really doesn't matter, but I don't trust their injury "optimism." The Back injury was supposed to be about as minor a back surgery as you could get. Shaving down a disk so you don't have back spasms. But... now here we are again. On the one hand, I kinda wanted them to put guys on the DL and be in this position. Misiorowski was one and a...shin contusion is fine. But it doesn't feel like most of these are 'we're just gonna give these guys a break because it's a long year,'- type injuries. We need a healthy Megill, Uribe, Mears, Koenig, Ashby, Hall. Anything from Anderson or anyone else is a bonus. Our lineup, we REALLY need Chourio, Yelich, Frelick, Turang, Contreras. Vaughn, Ortiz, Durbin and presumably Perkins just need to do their jobs of playing defense and having good ABs, nothing special.... beyond being there and healthy.

It took me about 3 weeks of good contact to believe we might have something. Then he slumped... but then he started walking and hitting the ball hard again. Last night it paid off, but I'm actually starting to think he's a.... good player. I do also like Hoskins and I would feel good about having him come in and pinch hit in a playoff game in which you need a runner/HR. I mean, as much as anyone else.

I have been saying... for YEARS that Turang reminded me of a LHed Trea Turner minus 20 slug 20+ points less, BUT that he'd be a better defender. I'm wondering if I even need to qualify it anymore! I mean, he's put up 11.5 WAR in his first 3 years, .800 OPS, he looked SO bad at the plate as a rookie, then he started out well last year and last summer he went back to this hyper defensive swing. Now it's just a smooth, easy stroke that generates a lot of pop and it's all because of his vision at the plate. 7/100...WITH one more caveat which would be an option. A big one, but a 25M option and he can earn 250K for 150 Games, ASG, GG, Reasons I'd be hesitant to do this deal; 1-Jesus Made 2-Luis Pena 3-Cooper Pratt 4-Josh Adamzcewski 5-Wilken/Fischer/Adams/ and the most criminally underrated man in the Brewers farm system, Blake Burke But, Made could play 3B. Switch hitter with Chourio upside but a capable SS. Pratt-He seems to be a better SS..as of now. Pena-CF with 70 speed and a 60 hit tool? Adamczewski could be a super utility. LF/2B, some SS, You'd still have 3 SS at 3B/2B/SS, so he would get ABs. And then I named many of the 1B/3B prospects and we have a ton...I think Burke forces his way to Milwaukee, Fischer not long after, Adams and Wilken are there. But we have such a great finish to this season and then next year... that's for 2027.. Long way of saying, I love the idea, I'd do it.. you could figure it out... as long as we don't get too many more elite SS prospects popping up. We know what a burden that can be!

I can't imagine they knew Stokes would sign for so little. I'm also not sure if you're right about Hobbs, but at least with Parsons, Hobbs makes more sense than before. He is physical, doesn't have to cover as long... and they can also get out of the Hobbs deal pretty quickly. He'll be 26, they cut him, they save a little vs the cap. 2 years in, they only owe 8M dead cap and save over 6. A 13M dead cap is becoming less and less significant with the cap if he can't stay on the field, but for now, Parsons makes it a better signing.

It seems like it's more the position coaches and how forthright they are. Butkus came right out and spoke about concerns about depth(Though he did seem like he was high on Monk). Hafley just seems generally positive and a lot of the talk about how Melton has taken to CB. That's been a success. We'll see if it's a success relative to what you'd expect or if it's just an actual success as in Melton is a competitive CB, we'll see. Covington.... I haven't heard what he's had to say, but seems unlikely he'd feel great about their current situation. At least, for the time being, OL would be 6 deep. Walker/Banks/Jenkins/Rhyan-Morgan/Tom. I'd heard how good Morgan had looked, so if Walker won the job... what's that mean? Morgan is that much better at RG? Will he rotate with Walker, with Rhyan? I have a feeling week 1 will be ugly, but we'll get some answers on some key positions.

If Ortiz keeps playing like he has the last few months, I think he'll keep the job for the next year at least. It's going to be hard to knock him out. And that's fine. If Pratt forces his way to an everyday role, then he becomes a very valuable trade chip. Also... if you have any injuries on the IF dirt, Ortiz can cover them IF Pratt is ready. I'd probably feel better about moving Ortiz... who has played 3B and 2B than Pratt... who has primarily been a SS. June 15th-today he's .281/.313/.406 and a .720 OPS 2024-.239/.329/.398 726 OPS I think Pratt will have to come and take it from Ortiz if he plays like he has.... which is a good thing. Made, Pena, Adamczewski will play their way into the lineup maybe end of '27? Maybe Made earlier in '27, Pena later on. maybe Pena moves to CF by then(he seems like a good fit out there).

It's not like they're going to give up Chourio, Frelick, Collins, Perkins(Yelich) or anyone else because you have Mitchell. "Counting" on him would consist of using an option on Lockridge. Yeah, I was gonna do a bench and then I just did a whole... kinda second lineup... and yes, I forgot Lara, but what I'd initially meant to say was that Collins would be getting regular starts. LF, 2B, RF. He's clearly earned regular PT. I just think they're going to give Mitchell a short and then it was Frelick and Chourio. The point is, I don't think they have to do a whole lot. I think they could take a big swing, ie, Marte(which would kick Turang to SS and Ortiz to a utility role) but there's a lot coming up in the farm system. And yes, Lara would be the next up in the OF.

DL Hall was a top 75 high potential arm... Joey Ortiz was "and more," as a highly rated SS prospect. I think these deals sound better in theory than they end up playing out. 1B- We have several options. Vaughn has earned the first crack. Black, Bauers... for closer to the minimum is an option. Luke Adams, Brice Wilken, they could play first as well. Burke as you mention may end up being the best option of all of them and I don't know how far away he is. We wouldn't bring him up for the first couple months, but he's right there knocking on the door. You mentioned several, but it's not a position we need to worry about in the off-season. We've got depth there. The only real position I'd be looking to add would be another reliever. I was of the opinion that the only position I'd give up a good prospect for was a Duran, Clase...Chapman, but that was before Boston got hot. Mason Miller was never on my mind(nor was trading a prospect the caliber De Vries). Griffin Jax would be a guy I'd target. He's got great stuff, I think TB will likely move him and I think we can get him back to where he was last year. But I would just let that play out. Next year your rotation should look like 1-Peralta 2-Misiorowski 3-Priester 4/5 Myers, Henderson, Gasser, Patrick, Ashby BP-Megill, Uribe, Jax, Mears, Hall, Koenig, Hopefully Wichrowski, Hardin, Manfredi, Fitzpatrick, Kuehner Lots of arms who could compete early on in the season. Lineup; Frelick -RF Contreras -C Chourio -LF Yelich -DH/LF Vaughn -1B/DH Turang -2B Ortiz -SS Mitchell -CF(at least for the start of the year) Durbin -3B I'm not seeing a whole lot of moves that need to be made going into next year. I'd LIKE to look into extending a couple players, but aside from Woodruff that's not for next years team in particular. -Woodruff gets a OQ and we get a 1st if we don't re-sign him. -Keep Peralta -Keep Mitchell because he's so talented and his arbitration number should be below 2.5M at the most, we don't have a lot of OFers knocking on the door. And then you have a bunch of guys who should be knocking on the door or ready to step up in case of injury. Nearly every position should go 2 deep. C-Quero 1B-Burke/Black/Adams/Wilken 2B-Murray SS-Pratt 3B-Wilken/Fischer(I think he'll move quickly and this wouldn't be ideal, but it also wouldn't be that far fetched. LF-Black CF-Lockridge RF-Setting aside the obvious depth on the MLB roster, Adams could play in the OF. It wouldn't be ideal, but he's played out there I believe. We've run out lineup's under Selig-Prieb that weren't much better. If we decide to make a "Micah Parsons" type move, Kentel Marte for Luis Pena, Fischer and Henderson would be... one you could make. Turang to SS. But I think this team is setting up REALLY nicely for the future. I don't see the need to make any significant moves.

I'm not understanding this line of thinking. I get it for THIS year with his innings. I don't agree, but I understand. But why would you want to take a guy THAT talented and make him a 1 inning pitcher? He has 4 pitches that are all just untouchable when he locates them. It's not rare for young pitchers to have trouble locating. Randy Johnson was walking 5.7 from his first year until he turned 28. That's 6 years. Roy Halladay at the same age was walking 5.6 per 9. Nolan Ryan his first 13 seasons walked 5.6 per 9! Guys with that type of stuff have trouble controlling it early. Some guys walk a lot and they still dominate. I cannot imagine a good reason to take a guy who... probably should still be in the minors working on his command, but was just too dominant to leave down there, why we'd slash his value so he can be the SU man or the 7th inning guy? You wouldn't have him slide in for Uribe or Megill next year. So you'd be planning on him eventually being the closer. You can have that or you could have a guy who should be ready to throw closer to 160 innings next year with another off-season. Can you explain the thought process behind this?

I'm sorry, I should have put that in blue. That's just on every financial channel you see on YT or X. It's always these wildly unrealistic returns from day trading. Maybe you could have made money, but it's an exceptionally small amount of people who do. I'm of the belief that there is a time and a place for trading, but I'm at a point where I just want my money invested. Vanguard just put margin on my account. I didn't ask for it, don't want it. Don't want to have to pay 12% to borrow money. I won't risk more than 10% of the money I have in my brokerage(so not touching my Roth, not touching my joint retirement account, just the money I actively manage and that's what I'll use for anything speculative). As for the BTC, I don't have a clue what happened. It's become family lore now. I know he sold his first company for 8M when he was like 25 and then he started another, by 27 it was growing and then bone cancer. I'm GUESSING he sold it when he was going all over trying to find a cure. He did leave a 7 figure trust for his daughter, enough for his wife(who had gotten her nursing license) a good chunk and again, paid off house and vehicles. I've set up trusts and spoken with a lawyer in the event of an untimely demise. The only thing that I don't... openly share is money that I inherited and then bought some property with and then subsequently sold and now manage on my own but even on that, I've named an my beneficiaries. They just don't know about it.

Well.... 1.0 was available until pretty recently. But I was driving the 'we need a CB' bandwagon... but if you can get home with 4 or even 5, Coop is an elite pass rusher at LB, even compared to a poor man' Parsons in that respect. Give it to the bye week. There will be CBs available. Maybe Asante Samuel Jr is available, maybe you sign Gilmore. Maybe the Dolphins start out poorly and you trade for Douglas or maybe Bo Melton and his incredible athletic ability can be the Sam Shields of this season. I would honestly put a DT ahead of CB at this point. A Mike Pennel, run stopping DT. If you're in 2nd and 4 regularly and you can't stop Saquon or whoever, the CBs will also matter much less(though our CBs are good against the run at least).

Not with the Packers, you're right there, but I did take that view with the Bucks. A lot of that is probably the disparity in the sports and expectations, but my expectations are different for all sports. I have been disappointed and had feelings that the Packers kinda squandered one. The Bucks I'm just happy they got there and won one. The Brewers, I look at the group they have coming up and I think they should have a pretty big window. And more than that, Baseball is just flukey. But I still feel good about their chances. I get what you're saying, but I think a lot of it is about the expectation of the team. The Packers had the best team in Football when they lost and they were supposed to be a dynasty. But fans always get greedy. The Eagles fans will be calling for Hurts to be benched and Sirianni to be fired if they start 2-3.

I started day trading with 500 dollars and now I get 17,000 dollars every two weeks following Kelly Anne Fischer. You should look her up on Whatsapp! My BIL watched one of those YouTube videos about day trading and wanted to borrow 30K to get started(that's apparently the magic number, you need 30K to be able to turn a profit... I asked why you couldn't start with 3K and just invest 1/10th as much and... I got nothing). I think you can have a self managed portfolio, but you just have to... really be patient and realize there are going to be times when you're going to lose a LOT of money if you sell whenever something happens. I think NVDA has gone down 40% or more 6 or 7 times since I invested in it and a lot of people who don't have the patience or stomach have sold. I have maxed out my Roth since my early 20s with index funds and then I put everything else into a relatively small number of stocks... though never without checking with a friend who manages very large fund. NVDA, AMZN, AVGO, TSM, GOOGL, then QBTS and OKLO have been my... own 'what the hell,' investments that hit(along with... 7 or 8 that have no that I don't even want to mention). Also... I bought some AMD against all advice. I just think that DC market is going to be so big and AMD was not at it's yearly low of 76 or whatever, but it as beaten down after we were "liberated" in April. The one thing I didn't do was ever invest in Crypto. My Cousin did. My Cousin started his a business when he was still in HS, made a lot of money, sold it. And he was bit into BTC. His wife or widow as he died from Cancer said he put 10-15K into it. I'm skeptical of the claim, but I know he was a big fan of it. Problem is, it didn't just sit in your fidelity account and she can't find where he left his wallet or the the password.

That, and obviously keeping Giannis happy. But... am I crazy, or was there not at least an opportunity for the Bucks to develop him into a solid defensive player. Not Dennis Rodman obviously, but he's extremely athletic, he's thick, physical. Did they just never push him because he was Giannis' brother or is it because they just knew he couldn't play the game without about 3 15 yard unnecessary roughness penalties per game? Still makes more sense than Udonis Haslem. Miami actually develops the last few guys on their roster and you still had a guy who played like 350 minutes TOTAL his last 7 years with a team for morale. He couldn't' do that without dressing?

I don't think they'll do it this week, but I would LOVE to see Cooper and Parsons both off-ball on 1st down OR in running downs. Parsons as a DE is average vs the run. Parsons as a LB is VERY good vs the run. They either feel better about their DL's ability to play the run or they're going to wait until after week 1 to sign Pennel. You have a perfect fit given this teams DTs to slide in as the starting 1 Tech, someone who has shown he can anchor a defense and stuff the run AND who has said...he wants to come back to Green Bay in one form or another. To play a final year OR to retire as a Packer... and he's just out there available in Free Agency. And I don't think it's because he's expecting a big contract. I mean... they seem to have a pretty good grasp on things, so they gotta see something we don't. I don't know. The ONE thing that's really disconcerting to me is Jayden Reed and that foot. We need him. We wait 5-6 weeks for him to have a surgery and we're getting to around the time where he'd have been expected back if he'd have just had surgery right away. So... not loving that. I hope he can make it all year. Otherwise you go into another year with a WR coming off injury heading into Free Agency and Micah's deal will make paying them a lot more difficult. -Finally, I do not think our CBs can stay with their WRs. But, that's why you go and get a Micah Parsons. Get Goff moving. He's not good when he has to throw on the run. Just 1 or 2 big plays where Parsons pressures him or gets a sack(strip sack maybe) and that could turn the game. I'd give Detroit the edge in this one just because we still seem to have so many things we need to iron out, Micah had a sprained back(I have no clue what that is, I've never heard of anyone ever getting one... if someone has, I'd be very interested to hear what that entails). But again, look at all the Packers talk on here now? Compare that to just a few weeks ago. They certainly went big. And... they SHOULD have Micah for the next 6- 7 years. Or for 3 years and then they trade him for a couple 1st rd picks. Who knows!

I've seen him listed as the other DT... but that doesn't make sense to me. His strength is not in playing the run. Wyatt is a 3 all day. Your starting DTs don't actually matter all that much, but your early down DTs do. I'd go with Stackhouse or....I guess Brooks over Wooden, but Wooden has put on about 20 pounds since his rookie year(still light at ~290). I'd expect them to play a lot of 4-3 under with McDuffie over the TE and Williams up in the box more for run fits if Stackhouse ISN'T in there or whoever is, is getting moved off the LOS. And that's not because of Parsons. Parsons isn't a great run defender, but he's also not a bad one.

Probably. That's why I said Ashby and Misi giving him out of the pen would be a very good outcome and if they come in and get us through 5 strong. But, I'm also not capping Misiorowski. If he is throwing like he has some other games and he's through 5 with 10Ks and 1H, I'm going to let him go back out there....assuming his pitch count is under control. I'm start him... I'd have Quintana ready to go and... basically just hope for the best. He's one of the few pitchers that can just overpower these lineups we'll face in the post-season. He's the last guy I want coming in with 2 on and 1 out though. Not the way he walks people. But we've got another month to see who we can get back healthy(or hopefully everyone else stays healthy).