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Oh Damn! I just went to look and I was looking at his 5 game log from the MLB reference page upside down. The bottom one I thought was the last. Took me a second. Was wondering what the hell you were so excited about 6 1/3 9H, 3ER 0BB and 8Ks... but I worked it out. 8IP, 1H, 14Ks. Ok, I guess we wait another time or three through the order. This isn't exactly urgent, but they have a LOT of pitchers I would love to see the Brewers get their hands on. Obviously... you'd have to give something up, but this is where I think a Tyler Black or Boeve(less so at this point) could come in useful. He also has an FIP of ~2.80 this year, better than Soriano, so I guess we'd likely be looking at someone else... in part because the Angels would be the dumbest team West of the Mississippi, but Colorado is also West of it. Jack Kochanowicz is definitively a guy we could do something with. Good stuff, big, just get him to throw the Cutter and he could be another reclamation project. Same with some of their AAA guys. I'm sure we'll add someone.

Yelich was... pretty much an "all-in" type of move. The equivlent of going after Yelich would be going after a guy like Corbin Carroll now. That's ABOUT as close of a apples for apples comp as you can get. I think if we did that, people would say we're going "all-in," in the way that phrase is used(really the only team that goes "all in" are the Padres year after year. But a top ~15 prospect in Brinson, two top ~60-80 prospects in Diaz and Harrison and then a very good pitching prospect in Brinson, Diaz, Harrison and Yamamoto. Yamamoto was coming off a big year, 2.52 ERA in 111 IP in 2.4BB/9, 9.6 K per 9. Player / Scope AVG OBP SLG OPS bWAR fWAR Christian Yelich (Full Age-25 Season, Through 2017) .290 .369 .432 .801 17.5 16.7 Corbin Carroll (Active Age-25 Season, Right Now) .262 .346 .499 .845 18.5 17.8 Contract left was... extremely similar. 4 years and a TO for both players and they were both VERY team friendly. Carroll is more of a power hitter, but the gap isn't huge. Adjust it a bit and I'd think Pena, Jett Williams, Luis Lara and then Knoth and maybe someone like Adamczewski? That's a better package. I think the Brewers make this type of trade if they can now. I obviously don't think Arizona is going to trade Carroll like the Marlins traded Yelich, but... my point is, the Brewers, if they'll make a trade THAT year... when they had nothing NEAR the foundation this team does... I absolutely believe they'd make a trade right now for an elite player with several years of team control. That team in 2018 had who? Shaw was solid, but of the 10 best players, you have like Jose Aguilar who had less than 1 WAR the year before, Jeffress who had .4 WAR in 2017, Hader who was still a reliever, you had Chacin who you'd just signed, and then guys like Hernan Perez, Villar, Keon Brozton. It wasn't a real talented team. So would the Brewers make that BIG move? Yeah, I don't have any doubt at all they would. A couple years ago they were calling about Bryan Reynolds(2021 IIRC and they had a very high ask, but he had ~4 years left), they've been rumored to be interest in other players, but for the same reason we haven't seen a top ~25 prospect traded since... Manny Machado or... maybe even Chapman, it's less likely to happen because teams value young, stud players with 3-4 years of team control. How many teams think they're THAT far away from being competitive? The Brewers were also in on Crochet. They got the prospects that would become their #2, #5, #8 and #18 ranked prospect in the CWS system, a system that ranked 6th compared to ours(7th). That's ROUGHLY Quero(who had more value pre-injury), Pratt, Gasser and a lower rated guy with a good hit tool, but not a whole lot else. I think that'd be about as aggressive as they'd be for a couple years of team control.

I think it's gotten a little obvious QP isn't alright. Just no control at all, putting up big ugly numbers in AAA(or HiA). He just doesn't look right. Patrick and Drohan are nice. The two names in particular that I listed, they're two guys who have nice upsides yet and who I think the Brewers could really work with. Patrick and Drohan can still come out of the pen for longer stints. That's.... extremely valuable. Saves the rest of the guys and just adds protection.

I'm still making a move for the rest of the year. I said I'd like Detmers, but I'd take a lower tier starter. Jack Kochanowicz is also like the epitome of the type of pitcher the Brewers have had a lot of success with. Flat 4 seamer, GB pitcher. Get him to ditch that 4 seamer for a cutter and he could take a nice jump. As it stands, he'd provide good depth.

Woodruff and Priester are throwing rehab starts. Though I have little confidence in Priester, I did just say I hope the Brewers kinda pamper Woody and Henderson throughout this year. A lower back issue. That certainly can be serious. It can also be a reason to allow him to skip a start and get Crow back up. I'm not too worried just yet. IF Woody and IF Henderson are healthy, I don't want to see more than 100 IP from either. We're not going to be in a situation like the Dodgers because... we don't have the pitching depth they do(when you can sign 5 guys for 30M or more a year, you are afforded that luxury) but look at how well rested they were? I'd also hope we skip Mis once or twice this year. Harrison feels more... sturdy and reliable(which I shouldn't have said.... and there's wood around me) and he's at fewer innings, so I'd keep rolling with him. Maybe they look to add an innings eater. I'm not going to guess as the Brewers find guys I don't really consider. Also, Drohan could starter or Tyson Hardin? I think our post-season rotation looks... pretty good if reasonably healthy, but we need to get through the year. Reid Detmers is a guy I'd be VERY interested in trading for. Feels like a guy we could get for relatively cheap... and finally get to turn around.

Yeah, it's almost taken for granted that you have TJ and you come back and you don't just get back, you quite often add a tick or 2. I didn't expect Gasser to throw 97(I don't have a strong memory of him throwing 95, though I'm not doubting it). I've lost some confidence in him... and I think I'm usually very optimistic. I love Sproat... or at least his potential. I'd love to see him in a Burnes/Woodruff 2018 type role later on, but he's got to locate much better also. Mis is amazing. I find myself not being impressed by his final line after he'd been so dominant in the first 3-4IP. That's just having kinda silly expectations. Harrison is a stud... but he's going to come back to Earth... I'd think. He was a really highly regarded prospect, but he's on a Cy Young type trajectory. Woody- If he comes back and can throw 92-94, he should not be asked to go more than 5IP and he should be skipped on occasion. Henderson-Same, just kinda baby him a bit. Need them both in Oct. Drohan, Sproat, Crow, hopefully Hardin. And Gasser will get more shots. I'm calling it on Priester. I think we'll see him sometime in '27.

100% Me. I wouldn't undo it and I think it'll turn out a wildly successful trade.

Pratt to SS, Jett to 3B. I guess Ortiz to AAA or make him a super utility player. I feel like Renigfo can hit and will hit much better if he were to stay up, but there's been little evidence of that, so... probably DFA him. luis Lara should be up at some point. Seems like he's an obvious replacement for Perkins. And while I DO think Uribe and Megill are "proven" I'd desperately like to get another power right hand reliever... but the cost is awfully high. I'd go left handed as well if there was a power arm. I still like Grant Taylor and would give up a lot for him, though I think it's unlikely the White Sox would oblige as I'm thinking Adamczewski as the top prospect in a trade for a controllable, elite arm. Now overly confident in Yoho as a HL reliever.

Yeah, that's fantastic, but did we ever hear what the hell was going on there? Was it actually "just" heat related?

Well... I don't believe I am and I think you're underselling Sproat by saying he "hasn't shown anything at all." Patrick is a right hander who throws about 94, is at about 6.6 K/9, his walks are up from last year... and he'll be 28 this year. I'm not all that clear what extending him does. We've got him until he's 33/34. Sproat, who has a better xFIP than Patrick, is the type of pitcher who you could probably extend cheap now. If you wait until he harnasses his stuff(like '21 Burnes)... it'll probably be too late.

Yeah, there was discussions of Priester... I'm also not sure what the point is. There's been less discussion about signing Frelick vs Turang also. It's... pretty reasonable to want to sign the BETTER player(s). Priester looked very good and... it's kinda silly the same person who was saying we need to... slow down on Misiorowski earlier this year is saying we "dodged a bullet," by not signing Preister. It's entirely premature to make any declaration about im. It certainly didn't 'dodge a bullet' by signing Ashby. But, the larger point, he was never going to cost as much as Harrison(or Misiorowski) because... he didn't perform as well as they had. He wasn't as dominant as they've been. Eh, anyway... Strider has also pitched a full year with a 1.83 FIP(well, ~135 innings) and was a two years younger, and maintained a similar walk rate, but had a higher K rate. I'm not sure Harrison would be viewed at... valuable as Strider would have at the time he signed a... record breaking deal for a pre-arby pitcher. Again, if it would take that much more to sign Harrison than Strider, I'd pass. Or at least wait until after a full season. Harrison has been about a league average pitcher thus far in his career, but you'd be signing him at the top of his value after 9 starts. 9 really good starts, but still, 9 starts and paying him top dollar.

"Only?" We're only 1/3rd of the way into the year and this is the first stretch he's really pithed well. I wouldn't go 6/96 for him, or giving him 30M for the two FA years almost 6 and 7 years from now. You're probably closer to Misiorowski's price range to add a couple TOs and if the choice is between the two, it's an easy one for me. I like Harrison, but that's a bit much. As for Patrick... I actually think he IS a bit more replaceable. Actually... a lot more replaceable. I'm not all that impressed with him this year as he looks like his stuff isn't as good as it was late last year(the post-season in particular). I'd... again, just pass and go with Sproat at a more team friendly deal as I think he's still ascending. We're seeing it, but it's just not all put together yet. Yeah, I didn't... think you meant we'd be getting a Cy Young Caliber pitcher in the first year(much less 3 of them). But Hall was of similar value to Harrison when we acquired him. I'd like to see us keeping a young arm around.

I'm REALLY hoping the Brewers go with high upside arms. It's not what they normally do(at least early) but this is more of a straightforward draft(you'd think) with fewer picks and bonus pool. -Borthwick... a 6'6 255LB HS kid with an upper 90s FB, the big spin rates that the Brewers love. What isnt' there to love about this kid other than a full 3.8M to sign him in Rd1 most likely. -Bumila the 6'9 255 Lefty who can also throw in the upper 90s and maybe an easier sign with the TJ already, but it's like reading a Misiorowski scouting report, but better spin rates and that same BIG extension. Doubt you'd be below slot on either, but I'm swinging for the fences in this class on arms with ALL the position players they've got locked up(and their LA class). I love the idea of Grindlinger if you were to go below slot. I'm skeptical you'd save much, but... give me a HS kid with a big fastball. Or... a kid who can catch and will take 75% of slot. I'm really not to picky.

We're REALLY taking for granted how easy it is to find top of the rotation arms. On the other thread about extending players, someone talked about how we could just trade Mis and then "find the next star pitcher. Why WOULDN'T you want to sign a guy like Harrison? He's a bulldog with REALLY good stuff. You're more likely to get a DL Hall or a Drohan(who is a very nice pitcher).

I'd be willing to do the following; Harrison 7 years 55M 2 TOs 22M Sproat 8 years 45M TO at 14 Uribe 7 years 34M 1 TO at 12M Misiorowksi 8 years 140M 1 TO at 40M All distant 2nd to Made at 8 years 130M 2TO at 30M each year maybe 5M buyout?

You're starting with Pena... probably a couple guys like Braylon Payne, Dinges, Adamczewski and then a guy like Letson or Knoth. I know you're just throwing it out there, but... man, you'd REALLY need to be loaded and think you were one dominant pitcher away. And...to be fair, if things line up, if Skubal's injury really is mild, him, Misiorowski, I'd think Sproat would pitch more as an opener, 2-3 innings and then give way to Harrison, and then whoever else is healthy, that WOULD give you one helluva chance. It'd be one of those moves where I wouldn't do it, but I'd sure as hell enjoy it if it happened! I do think that we're going to be taxed because our #11 or #12 prospects are a lot of teams #5. The way Braylon Payne is hitting, he'd be top 3 in most of the last 20 years. Same with the other two I mentioned at this point to be honest. Give is 2-3 years when we've got virtually a whole lineup of guys who are ~2-4 years into their career, maybe Turang is near the end, THEN I'd be more inclined to make one of those big trades if we haven't broken through.

As was my pick Jose Bautista. Exactly 0.0 WAR, OPS in the 720 range, then 29-rest of his career, 285 HRs, .879 OPS.

Bautista comes to mind. Not saying Bauers is Joey Bats, but he's a really nice player for this team.

Yup! Just... love that trade. He already looks absolutely filthy at times as he did that last AB. Nobody in the league is hitting him when he's throwing those three pitches.

That... was one of the nastiest curveballs I've seen to Bucsh on that 0-1 count by Sproat... Even the one that hit Busch had nasty movement. Mis, Harrison and Sproat=Burnes, Woodruff and Peralta when it's all said and done?

Yeah, I saw that. I just...assumed there was another challenge when I saw there was only 1. Anyway, I'm sure Murphy and the Brewers knew they've got both. On another topic, how is Pratt's throwing arm? On par with Ortiz or not quite as strong?

They said the Brewers retain their challenge, so I think it's a graphic error or...something. Anyway... love watching Sproat throw.

I walked away for a second, I thought they challenged another pitch. THAT is from the Sproat challenge on the 2-0 count where they couldn't review it? That's... insane. Of course they should have both.

I don't get the comment by McCalvy with regard to Pratt though. There's nothing in his contract that I've seen(not that I've looked too deep) about when he starts his career. 8 year/50M, this is year 1, right? So no need to wait on him. As for Williams, the way he's swinging the bat, you can wait a few weeks I suppose, but... might as well bring up Pratt now. He looks like he's figured it out and I'm not sure you're losing a whole lot. I'm looking forward to adding Williams, Pratt, Lara at some point this year and then can't really think of anyone who should play too big of a role the next few years in the minor leagues. Tyler Black?

That's just such a pretty swing. Hands are so fast, looks like there's almost no effort at all. Love to see him start playing some 3B right now... at least once in a while.