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I just don't want to be reactionary. He had the worst year of his career coming off an ACL. It's an additional 14M to the payroll. You start hacking away further and...it really doesn't make sense to me to eat more of that money and spend..8 M if a trade leaves us paying 10M to facilitate a trade. You get rid of Hoskins and I'd be willing to bet he goes somewhere else, puts up an 800 OPS again, hits 25-30 HRs and you're left with a hole at 1B. As for Black being Hiura...I don't think he is....but we're not going to know until he gets regular playing time. We at least gave Keston a couple chances. Black's not really been given that yet...and I don't see a scenario in which he has the holes in his swing that Keston does, but nobody's mind is going to be able to be changed in the off-season with ~50 ABs in his MLB career. They're similar in that they don't have a definitive home. The Brewers have seemingly been moving him around with an eye on the short term future to where they MIGHT need him.

In a 2 gap, your LBs are ALSO responsible for 2 gaps. In a 1 gap, your MLB is supposed to be responsible for 1 gap. So no, the reason 4-3 defenses have smaller LBs is because they don't have the same requirements. 4-3 teams also tend to play more Tampa 2 and they want versatile MLBers. Guys like Urlacher...even the prototype, he was not good at taking ion blocks. That's why you'll see smaller, less physical LBs in scouting reports referred to as fits for one gap schemes, not 2 gap schemes. Some of this has been mitigated by how little teams play in a Base defense now, but in the base and vs the run, if you're a 2 gap team, your off-ball LBs are also 2 gap LBs. Either way...Walker has to be more decisive and he has to take on blockers better. He's been worse this year. Cooper has been pretty impressive though. Good technique. Taking on blockers and keeping the right arm free(usually the outside arm when he's playing the SAM, but wherever he's playing). https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2014/6/25/5841992/playing-the-run-on-defense-1-gap-vs-2-gap-schemes

Of all the things Rodgers did that...were amazing just throwing the ball, his ability to throw WRs away from contract was incredible. To throw the ball behind a crosser so he's stopping or his momentum is taking him away from the safety that's driving or...LB. Obviously there were SOME bad examples, and Rodgers threw the ball over the middle at a far lower rate than the likes of Brees, Manning or Brady, but still... Really? First timer? LOL...well, that's nice. I've spent too much time on Twitter in the past few weeks. Not sure there's an insult I haven't heard at this point!

Andy Herman was talking about Mosby. He had him as the 3rd highest-graded player in the Lions game. The Packers clearly felt like those two, Mosby and Cox would provide more juice than Smith and the savings was worth it. I'd have loved to see another DT added, even just a guy like Davlin Tomlinson, but this is the group. I hope I'm proven wrong or Slaton, Ford, someone can step up in the middle of the defense.

Every team is going to play some 2 gap. It's like a zone-blocking team like the Packers. They're not going to run all zone, they're going to double and run iso power runs. But a 3-4 IS inherently a 2 gap and a 4-3 a 1 gap. And even that is going to be on early downs, not on passing downs as...that'd be rather pointless. The Wade Phillips, Fritz Shurmur defense's are the exception that proves the rule. Even then, I'm pretty skeptical that Fritz was running a 2-gap in GB. Maybe in LA with the Rams or earlier in his career, but with Reggie, Dotson, Jones? But back to MLB...historically the 4-3's have been smaller, the 4-3 have been bigger, but again, Quay is large enough to play in either scheme. He's actually listed at 6'4 241. So I don't think it's a size issue. You question yourself and play on your heels, you're going to be blocked pretty easily.

No...I'm not sure anymore. That was definitely the...prototype for a 4-3 vs a 3-4 for a long time, but I'm not even sure what defense we're playing. Go back and watch and you'll see Slaton on several snaps trying to 2 gap and hold the Guard or even line up over the C and a 0 Tech. I know traditionally you wanted bigger, more physical 3-4 MLBers...but I can't really say with much confidence what they're looking at anymore. Take SF though. Warner is their MLB. 4-3, he's probably 220-225. He's not big. Devin White was a MLB. When reading the scouting report on Ty'Ron Hopper, the scouting report said 'due to his size and...something about inability to disengage, he'll have to go to a one gap scheme and "wouldn't survive in a 2-gap scheme." https://bleacherreport.com/articles/891384-breaking-down-the-3-4-defense#:~:text=In a 3-4 defense there is no one,capable at fighting through traffic to the ball. That's supposed to be the...qualities you look for in a MLB in a 1-gap and a 2-gap scheme...but I don't know. These aren't the days of Levond Kirkland anymore or Derrick Brooks are gone. Even in Chicago, Urlacher was the MLB and he was big, but he wasn't close to as good as Briggs at taking on Blocks. Meanwhile Ray Lewis was the best MLBer of the last 30 years...probably and he was a 220-pound kid who I'd say got up to 235 maybe a little bigger, but he was a 3-4. So I'm actually not sure. What you're saying makes sense, but I think in the modern NFL you just need to be smart, instinctive, they want guys who can run you down East to West, playing the pass comes first. Just play smarter, be more decisive and play physical. Quay is 6'4 ~235 anyway. He should be big enough. The issue is he's trying to go around blocks, not playing downhill and he's regressed.

I think we get one more of 25 basis points... And then...who knows what 2025 will look like. How drastically the autonomy the Fed has could change. So I won't predict what will happen there, but this week, 25 basis points. The economy is certainly humming along pretty well and the markets going strong despite the most consequential election of my lifetime.

These are the big issues. It's the DL #1, #2, #3. I really think the most obvious target for tomorrow should be Calais Campbell. Maybe a guy like Clowney. Two guys who can still get after the QB, they're cheap(Campbell is really cheap and still REALLY good). Slaton isn't playing with any leverage, he's getting turned and...then put on skates. Clark just looks old. He makes a couple of big plays here and there, but he's running on fumes. DL has to be the #1 priority. There are times where it appears the DL is playing 2-gap. I don't know if they are or if they're just playing that poorly. I mean, Hafley's defense is working, so maybe we should start considering he's not quite following the very basic rules. I don't think that's the case, especially when you watch Wyatt play. Cooper has been really good at taking on blocks and shedding, but then you lose his pass-rushing, he's ability to play in space. In theory, you're 3-4 MLBs are supposed to be bigger and more physical. This is why all the scouting reports say Hopper(for example) would not survive in a 2-gap scheme but had a chance at a if he went to a one-gap defense, but the 4-3 MLBs are the heartbeat of your defense. That's the player the offense identifies, they run an ISO, it's at the Mike, he's the guy who's supposed to play instinctively. I don't really think either system is a better fit for Quay, I think Quay is playing on his heals, with less aggression and he's not reacting. 4-3 is similar to a RB. You have to read the hole and hit it. Quay waits too much, he doesn't want to take the wrong route and ends up making contact 7 years behind the LOS. I loved Quay's energy and his athleticism, but he's playing on his heels. Still, a lot of what a LB does is dictated by the DL. So whoever it is, they need better play from the IDL first. Bottom line, this time last year we were looking at picking in the top 5-10 and not sure how to evaluate Love. So...I'll take it. The offense starts putting up more points, converting, and less pressure on the defense, Hafley can create some of those more creative blitz packages and...hopefully, guys will step up the 2nd half of the year.

I'm waiting for the offense to get it together, but it's getting frustrating. Wicks was so reliable last year. 3rd and Wicks... They're just out of Sync and it's not all on any one player, but Wicks has been struggling. The QB also has to give you a better ball. Kraft had a big 3rd or 4th down drop. I guess the upshot is they played so poorly, they missed a FG and dropped a TD, handed the Lions a TD and it was a 14-point game. The defense played pretty well. I don't recall who was on St Brown for the passing TD, but...I'm just not asking for much more there unless it's Jaire and it's asking a lot from Jaire. You play press man, you're turning and running with guys...when you face one of the best players at going up and getting contested balls, they're going to catch them. We're not getting blown away out there. Our DBs are in position. Valentine was good, Nixon, Stokes...they were all solid, but if you can't get a consistent pass rush, they're going to give up catches. But yeah, I'm with you, 6-3 and they've looked disjointed. Things should get better. The big issue is that...Detroit is just playing cleaner, smarter and more disciplined Football.

It's gotta be Turang. He's clearly the better of the two and...actually deserving of the award for the NL as a whole. Frelick is great...but Turang was a better defender.

Most realistic option. 38 years old. 4th highest graded DT, Run Grade is 84. The timeless Calais Campbell. The 6'8 315LB DT for the Miami Dolphins who just KEEPS playing at an exceptionally high level. 4th highest-graded IDL behind Dexter Lawrence, Chris Jones, and Cameron Heyward(pretty exclusive group). He inexplicably signed for just 2M despite NOT having a down season and being better each of the last 4 seasons than Kenny Clark. He helps with so many issues. Pass rush, run defense...very small cap hit, less than 1M at this point. Not sure what he'd cost. But again, at 38, he's a notoriously great teammate and person, and if he was 28, he'd be signing a 4-year 120M contract this off-season. He can also play DE, so we can give his some snaps there as well... I'm guessing a team like Baltimore jumps on him, a team that's competitive and that he's familiar with.

They can, but they shouldn't because of your first sentence. Wilken...he was awful. Someone would be taking a flier on him. I'd rather send him back to AA, let him reset and see what you have. Worst case you lose marginal trade value and you trade him in a year. Best case...he's the guy you thought he was...what, 15 months ago when he was a 1st rd pick fresh off an ACC record for HRs with a 70 arm and decent enough mobility with Ortiz/Turang in the IF or he plays first. Quintana-No for similar reasons. This is how you end up throwing Tatis Jr into a trade. He was highly touted, he had a good 1st year(Made and Pena are NOT the benchmark) and he's got a LOT of talent one year after being signed. 6'2 SS who was considered the top sing for the Brewers less than a year ago? Yeah, I like Made, Pratt, Turant, Ortiz...we're not going to have too many talented SS's and I can't believe he has that much value. Di Turi...I'm still not seeing a ton of value, but some upside. O'Rae, I'm alright with him. He's further along, he's a more known commodity, he's a good, solid, all-around player who I think could help a team in the next year or two as a utility player who puts the ball in play, steals bases... Luke Adams would hurt, but I think he's got some value, guys like Boeve, Black. Areinamo is another one. There's a sweet spot. A former top prospect one year in after he struggles and loses most of his value or a 17/18-year-old who has some success and you know he's got a high ceiling., Those are the guy I'd stay away from trading...

Made was my #2. I couldn't get mine in as...for some reason this site freezes up on me(maybe it's the brevity with which I post😉)...butI think the 2025 mid or final top 100 list will have Made and Pratt top 15-20, perhaps along with Quero. Mis will be in the ~30 range as I don't think he can answer questions about his ability to start in one year. And then there are so many options. Bitonti, Knoth, Letson, Henderson, Adams, Lara, Yophery, they'll be top 100 on various lists(or close). Pena and Anderson could make big moves. And then the one guy I'm really surprised to see people so high on, Burke. Described as having the best power in the system and a very underrated hit tool with plus defense at 1B...I think we're going to see a year where we don't have a ton of significant contributions from the minors outside of some relievers. But the following year we'll be looking at a couple of SS in AA and AAA and I really think our farm system will look like the Os going into this year but with more pitching... Jesus Made...13 year 81M extension now and get the two option years at 22M per! -I'm kidding, but I think he could be the damn near perfect compliment to Chourio...

We'll see...look at their schedule. Look at the losses they've had. They could EASILY be a 6 win team...right now. They just got Adams, Reddick...and a weak schedule.

Yeah, we're not losing the Brewers. Though...imagine if Wisconsin never gave away Chicago and the UP. We'd have the 2nd largest or at least the 3rd biggest...but then we'd probably all be Cubs fans. I'd rather have a 120M payroll and be a fan of the Brewers. Why are we talking about moving? Benefit in the long run=more money. This team is owned by wealthy people. They can go a couple of years without a profit...or sell the team to Jimmy and Dee. They want to get into Baseball and own a Milwaukee team already. Or...just keep doing what you're doing. I think the Brewers are overcoming a whole lot at the moment.

Yeah, but Nashville has a lot of money and is one of those cities where you'd have a region that would adopt the team...I think. I'm not sharing the Brewers(even for...well, maybe for Soto)...but if you're an owner, Nashville would be an awfully enticing location. It's where I thought the Brewers would go in the...unlikely event they didn't work out the "AmFam" deal.

I know this sounds nuts, but I think they'll be in the playoff race EOY. Might not get in, but 10-7 is plausible, 9-8 would be my bet.

How about a HC who kids a FG after using one of his 3 TOs on 3rd down-down 11 points with 39 seconds left from the ~10? Why WOULDN'T you try and get the TD there?

Eh, I'm not too worried about this. I wanted to keep the pitching in place from the AZ...lab or whatever, to Hook. I'm also skeptical that the OF defense is going to be impacted. Berry was respected...I'd have preferred to keep him, but I don't think it's a great loss.

If you took 85M out of the(edit-thought he had 5 years left) ~223 he's owed the next 6 years, I think you get back a couple of top 100 prospects. I think that's a fair bargain for the right team. It doesn't matter, they won't do it...but I don't know why. What's the difference between the Rockies and Angels? The City they play in?

LOL...really? A RB? There are really good RBs in this draft. The...36th pick will get you a really good RB. The 4th pick could get you an elite DL. Assume QBs go in the top 3(1 or 2 at least) and you could get a guy one of those Michigan DL or the kid from Kentucky who could really help fix that defense. They're so soft up the middle. But then you realize that poorly run organizations...it almost doesn't matter how much talent they have, they stay bad. The Jets. Even if you think Rodgers has fallen off, he's still EASILY good enough they could have 5-6 wins. But bad teams find a way to stay bad.

That's the same exact thing I thought. Unless they're REALLY going to and they go and get Burnes and Soto...and Trout stays healthy...and then maybe Rendon decides he enjoys playing Baseball, they still won't be as good as 4-5 teams in the AL. Eat a chunk of Trout's salary, deal him, take back prospects, start the rebuild already.

Burke at DH, also I'm hopeful you have a better defender in CF and keep Chourio in LF. He's good, but I want PCA type good and...I'm hoping Payne can be that or Lara Then you just keep signing everyone you can. We could have been in the same situation as the Nats with Chourio set to become a FA at 26. If Pratt and Made follow the same trajectory, they become top 5 prospects(which is entirely possible in both cases) and lock them up. Of course, by then, you'll start seeing a backlog in prospects. We haven't even accounted for the Wilken, Yophery, Lara, Boeve, Quintana, Adams-type prospects Get your Devers in Made, your Gunnar in Pratt, and continue the young, aggressive play style under Rickie Weeks(whom I presume takes over by then) that you developed under Murphy. Your staff looks like Misiorowski, Meccage, Ashby, who I probably have an irrational amount of confidence in at this point would be in his final year Henderson, Letson, Knoth, Hunt, whoever, and I suspect we'll be a bit more aggressive next years going after a Camminiti type prospect with so many athletic up the middle type players. That leaves BP. And I get you could do this every year, project out and say these guys will be REALLY good, but this group is different. They key will be to keep this player acquirement and development staff around and churning out talent, but they've got the ball rolling now and it's picking up speed. A lot of heartbreaking playoff losses, but this is as bright a future as the Brewers have probably had since Molitor and Yount were coming up together in ~'78...and they were a Rollie Fingers injury away from a WS. Who knows how things fall, but it's exciting as hell!

Interesting...but I'm a bit skeptical putting Boeve and Yoho, as good as they were this year(plus Areinamo) over the likes of Adams, Bitonti, Para, Pena...and then Burke who BA just spoke about, saying he had the bet power in the system and an underrated hit tool while also saying he should be a fast riser. Man that's exciting.

If we're throwing Hall and Ashby into the rotation WITH Woodruff...we're sure not going with a 5 man rotation either. Seems like the preference is a 6 man anyway, but it's going to be all the more important with that rotation. Myers is still young, he's got one year as a starter, Civale and Peralta...I don't know why you're moving a 5.5M starter who can pitch in any role. I'm not getting rid of him for 3 pitchers who...I think can be really good but sure aren't guarantees. I'm confident in Woodruff coming back, but I'm also thinking you should hold onto the guy who you know can give you 5-6 innings a night for 30 starts. He also DID have an ERA in the low 3s until late in the year. He had that 10 ER blow up, but he was pretty good for a #4-5.