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It is? This is the same injury Aaron Jones...a RB had twice last year. It REALLY shouldn't be enough to "torpedo," this season.

I don't know about Tannehill. I didn't watch him or...haven't paid attention to how exactly he's fallen off. Matt Ryan would make sense to me if he wanted to come back and play a little. He's played in the scheme, MLF has been his QB coach...he retired, but guys come back all the time. I suspect this will be a 2-3 week thing, maybe he misses 2 games and is just limited, but it's just guessing until we hear more.

Ok...so a better source, MCL...as most expected.

Yeah...it's been so hard being a Packers fan. They just can't get anything right...🙄

I don't know how accurate this is...could just be guessing(as it's most people's guess). What type of sprain is going to be what matters. A sprain is just a type of tear, just matters of degrees...I believe(that's what I've always been told).

They know it's NOT an ankle? I've not been watching much of anything since the game. Just an ugly, forgettable game, but I'm not sure if that's good news or bad news. I'd think you're right then, MCL. Hopefully no more than 3-4 weeks at worse. They can survive that. Wow...we really throw the towel in THAT quickly, huh? We lost a close game to the Eagles in an ugly game in Brazil. To one of the most talented teams in the NFL offensively.

They know immediately if it's an ACL(with like 90% certainty). It looks to me...and I'm not a doctor, but looks like the best and most likely case would be a high ankle or MCL. The way it pops on that video is definitely disconcerting though.

LOL...I don't know. It all blows my mind. I don't know how you possibly hit or lay off a 90 MPH slider. Everyone can yell, "what's he swinging at! C'mon," but it's all superhuman to me. I am amused at Cubs fans who are saying PCA is a better player. If you want to say he's better than Mitchell or...I guess Frelick, eh, he is one helluva CFer. But Chourio? Hmm...no. As for ROY, I'm less invested given the stupid rule they changed that he's not eligible for a comp pick because they invested in him and signed him, but it'd still be cool for him. This does seem like a really-really good rookie class though. So...he'll be a Yankee or Dodger one year earlier.

Nobody will take the Giants money! They've been trying to pay players. I'd guess they are the team that goes after Soto the hardest this off-season other than the Mets and Yanks, but...doubt he'll sign there. The Chapman deal though, I just looked at his numbers...I don't think that's a bad deal for them. He doesn't have much of an injury history, he's been a really good, but not great player. I think Willy would be a good target there and...while I wouldn't want the Brewers to go 6/150 for either(wouldn't HATE it with Willy) the Giants can afford it. I'd guess a lot of Willy's value this off-season will be in how teams view his defense. Do they view it like I do, a little bit of just a fluky down year, more errors than normal, or do they think it's the start of a serious regression? They have real experts, I'm just looking at physical attributes which...seem to be fine. And then the other part of that, would he consider playing 3B if a team has a SS like...the Yanks.

It really is. The thing that might be the most impressive is his plate discipline. I thought we were getting a free swinger, a Vlad type or...whoever. But he's gotten so much better at being selective up there. The 5 ball strikeout sucks, but...this kid is a monster. Just so thrilled with that 10-year extension.

Yeah, there are obviously crime-riddled areas all over. Sao Paulo is...bad right now. Kinda interesting how they've gone up and down over the last 15 years. What happened in SF to Rickey Pearsall is awful, but SF has seen violent crime levels fall to near-all-time lows(though...theft is still a problem). Maybe it's kidnapping they're concerned about. I'd think as big of an issue as any is that...in America, there is more familiarity with the area. If you play in Chicago, you know where to stay and how to get to the game. You're not putting the team up in certain areas, and you can hire plenty of off-duty Police to work as security in addition to your own security. You'd assume Brazil would be pretty worried about looking bad on the world stage and they'd have ample security, but if a player goes out, you can only do so much to protect them. It'll likely come and go without any major incidents other than the Eagles getting their wings clipped early!

How? Housing prices are rising? I need to know HOW else this is like the Housing Crisis or...what I find FAR more ridiculous, is the Dot Com Bubble(which I also hear, albeit not from you)? Inflation is under 3%. It was higher under Reagan, Ford, Carter, Nixon(when he froze Wages and Prices...which pissed everyone off). It feels like if you try hard enough, you can draw comparisons to every economy. It's Sept. The Market is going to be awful as it ALMOST always is(especially in an election year). I'm not sure what these harbingers of the next great recession are.

I don't think he will be back, but I'd gladly take it. The Math in his head has to be...can he get more than 14M on the FA market and I think he can. He'll have ~25 HRs, he's not had a great year, but 14M? 4M is GTD, I'd be happy with him coming back. I agree, year 2, plus he's hit into poor luck, I'd gladly see Hoskins back. Chourio/Yellich/Contreras/Hoskins as your 2-6? I think that's up to 100 HRs right there. Ortiz, Turang, hopefully Black and Frelick, they'll be able to get on base as well or... a little better. I still don't' know what Mitchell is other than talented, but streaky. I looked up the FA rankings, they have Adames as the #20 FA or so. I think he's top 4-5 behind Soto, Burnes maybe Bregman and Cole, but we'll see. Just need that one year fill in at 2B/3B or...SS, though that's more expensive and less important with Ortiz and Turang.

Yeah, they can, but you lose Kelce and that is going to really impact the protection scheme. I have no idea what to expect out of Philly though. I think if Barkley stays healthy, they could have a huge year running the ball, they still have those elite OTs. The defense isn't scary, but at least they have those DTs up front. Jordan Davis, Jevon Carter... We'll also be facing that Vic Fangio defense, but it's actually run by Fangio, so...it's not as gutless as the Barry Defense. This feels like it should be one of the best teams in the league if they can stay relatively healthy. I'm assuming you get a full season of the good version of Love. Maybe not that 10-game run Love had extrapolated out for a full season, but I can't believe it was a fluke. So just get that OL to protect him and the WR/TEs are so good. Even scarier if they actually did figure out how to prevent the soft tissue injuries for Watson(and Stokes). We'll also get a chance to see two DBs pretty much every Packers fan would have been happy with the Packers taking in Rd1 in Mitchell and DeJean, both of whom the Eagles moved up to get in front of us. Should be a really good game but a tough matchup with Hurts+Barkley vs this front.

How is that? This feels like the type of move the Dodgers have been making for years so they're fresh for later in the year(not that it always works, but they do it).

Yeah, that and having a team where you can just pretty much blindly trust they know exactly when it's time to tweak something or give a guy some time off. I feel like the Brewers could call me up and I could give them 2 innings and a sub-4 ERA...and my shoulder is full of metal and(and...didn't pitch when I did play baseball).

That's the first thing I thought of...and then I thought, 'well, we've got AI, surely we can figure out the difference in bonus pool on the fly,' but...the real issue would be the scouts who get these numbers and who figure it out like the '23 Brewers front office, whose greatness should go down with the likes of the '27 Yankees, the '96 Bulls, the...'72 Dolphins or the '24 Penn State Wrestling team(I know I'm losing the crowd here)....nearly unprecedented in their greatness. So...that'd be the bigger issue. Figuring out down to 39 dollars or whatever the final number was, how much money will need to be spent. And I'm sure they'd have been right on that number this year, but one HS Pitcher was...apparently just too dead set on going to College.

I WAS going to add to that post(and then deleted it) that I think we'd have been in a lot of trouble if we'd have to start either of the last 3 guys in year 1. I was looking at it much more from a Green Bay POV, but listening to Brady...what they're doing, maybe Atlanta with Penix, it might be the way to go? Or at least just have more patience and build around these guys. The Packers gave Favre a much longer leash years ago. His 3rd year he threw IIRC 19 TDs, 24 INTs and in today's game, he'd be like Justin Fields most likely. So now you're pretty much demanding a guy come in at 21-22 and perform immediately in most cases? Favre started the soonest and he was all instinct, but made awful decisions and played in a simpler...but MUCH more physical era. Rodgers...I feel like people forget how funky he looked. He got a lot of the criticism Love got. Not as much, but he looked pretty bad with that high tight, and funky delivery. Love, we all remember. He could be out of the league at this point. I don't think he was more ready than a guy like Zach Wilson, but Wilson isn't playing. I think Tom Clement has done so much to do exactly what Brady is talking about along with MLF, lucky to be a Packers fan. I don't know if the game is getting worse though...I think you see more just REALLY talented players, but there are definitely guys who would probably have done much better in better situations. Trey Lance should have sat 3 years. Never should have been expected to start so quickly...and there are a ton of examples. It makes CJ Stroud's season last year that much crazier(though I still like Love better).

I'd not be surprised if the Yankees go after him. They've been complaining(well, fans have) about how bad they are at the other IF spots, lack of production. Volpe is their SS, BUT, depending on what they have to do with Cole and Soto, maybe he just moves to 3B? I also think he's still an elite defender who's had a bad season. His range and arm strength haven't declined, so, I think he's got a few years left there. This is just about the best situation for the Brewers. Get the most out of him in a walk year with a good draft class and two young SS's who can take his spot and hopefully, we can find a 3B/2B stopgap. LAD, SF, Seattle and NYY with one darkhorse. Hard to see the Braves spending that money or the Padres.

I'm not sure we're going to be great vs the run. I'm just hoping for...pretty good. It's more the pressures, TFLs and big plays. But it'd be nice if we could just shut down the run game as well.

Plus...Hudson has been injured, so why tax him and Wilson...he's a fairly valuable piece(though I'd have been less upset about losing him). I'd like to see Paredes back also. He looked like he had pretty good stuff as well. Certainly as a guy who as it stands would probably be one of the last men in the BP.

He's an incredible talent, but...if there is a team that can ruin him, it's the Bears. He plays undisciplined and he looks for the big play too much. He's a rookie, so relatively minor knocks at this point, but...still. If I was the Bears...I think I'd have kept Fields rather than trade him for a 6th, let Williams sit for a year...but I get nobody really does that on purpose with a guy who's as decorated as Williams(and he may have insisted on going elsewhere as he initially did or was rumored to have done).

Seems like they just needed space and opted to options or IL two guys who just threw a lot in Hudson who threw 2 innings on the 31st and 1 2/3 yesterday and Wilson who threw 3IP into extra innings two days ago and brought back two pitchers who...are fresh, healthy and ready to go. I'm not really seeing the big problem here. Williams, Megill, now Ashby...Pegeuero the guy who at his worst is not an MLB-caliber reliever(isn't that juust about every pitcher "at their worst?") is back up. I'm feeling pretty good about the staff right now, particularly with the power arms we've got an DL Hall looking great his last outing. But that's just one outing. Still, for the team with the best ERA in the NL, this feels more like it's an issue of trying to keep as many options available and give guys some rest more than anything else.

Yes, I'm not including Mears into the "curse" of the Brewers deadline relievers. I'm completely confident he will come back and pitch at a very high level if not this year, next year(most likely next year). He's got elite stuff. Give him a little time with the Brewers. Time for them to work with him and get him going, he'll be fine. The trades I disliked the most, I was still wrong about. I didn't like Reece Olson trade, but I NEVER thought he'd be a 3.14 FIP/#2/3 starter type. Love to have him back. The other I really hated was the Bush trade and Antoine Kelly has been bad. So I was wrong there. The rest? Meh. I also liked Herrera, but the Brewers are pretty good about this. I just saw a 21-year-old who looks like he's still got room to add to that frame and is already hitting 97, but I really didn't see him much. You're REALLY searching to find area's to critique the Brewers front office with regard to pitching at this point. Imagine you said we're going to get a multi-inning reliever, a lefty who can throw 97-98, has NASTY breaking balls and is actually capable of being a Hader-like weapon in the post-season? What would you have given up for that?

Yeah, not sure I'd say he's been "extremely shaky" since then as...he threw 2IP after that giving up 1 Walk and nothing else in the following two outings and it's been 10 days since that outing. I think we may be reading a bit too much into...nothing.