Whoops, yes, I meant Sheets and Sabathia. It seems like a lot of fans are thinking like this...it sort of seems like the mentality I've seen on this board the last couple seasons is that we can keep expecting our youngsters to step up and perform at a high level, almost immediately. As another example, people keep putting Gamel and Escobar into projected lineups for '09, when neither barely have any AAA experience. Sometimes a guy can come in and contribute right away (Braun, Fielder, Hardy, etc), but this is more the expection than the rule. It's especially difficult when it comes to starting pitching. Neither Gallardo or Parra have ever pitched close to 200 innings in a season, so if you're banking on one of them becoming the "stopper" for 2009, I think it's going to be a rough year. I guess it's one thing if you assume 2009 will be a sort of "step back" or "rebuilding year". I really hope that after tasting the post season for the first time in 26 years, the Brewers do not go that route.