Let's assume we get the 2012 Garza and Gallardo and the 2013 Lohse, Peralta & Estrada. The numbers are: Garza: 3.91 ERA, 1.17 WHIP Gallardo: 3.66 ERA, 1.33 WHIP Lohse: 3.35 ERA, 1.16 WHIP Peralta: 4.37 ERA, 1.41 WHIP Estrada: 3.87 ERA, 1.07 WHIP I would gladly take those numbers althought I think Peralta is pretty likely to be better than that in 2014. None of that seems unattainable altough it would be nice to have somebody step up and have a 3.0 ERA or below year.