2011-06-20 Rays (Niemann) at Brewers (Narveson) - [Brewers lose, 8-4]

[markedman5]

You can't go down looking with the tying run on 3rd base and less then 2 outs. You have to protect the plate and put the ball in play.

 

wow, way to redeem that horrible AB Kotsay

Come on. It wasn't a horrible AB. The pitcher made some really good pitches (even if one did technically miss its spot by a healthy margin). Sometimes when a guy strikes out it's not because he sucked.

[pebadger]

It's hard to draw any accurate conclusions from just the boradcast, but it seems like tonight's crowd is getting out of this game exactly what they've put into it.

[markedman5]

its not the crowds faul that the Brewers have stunk up the joint tonight.

[trwi7]

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No, no. That was not the worst call I ever made. Not by far...

 

Nyjer really needed to go back to his days as a Regina Pat on that call and start some fisticuffs.

 

[cnycerveceros]

It's hard to draw any accurate conclusions from just the boradcast, but it seems like tonight's crowd is getting out of this game exactly what they've put into it.

The crowd was pretty fired up in the 6th, and it didn't seem to help.

[logan82]

wow, way to redeem that horrible AB Kotsay

Come on. It wasn't a horrible AB. The pitcher made some really good pitches (even if one did technically miss its spot by a healthy margin). Sometimes when a guy strikes out it's not because he sucked.

Rock says some really stupid things but I am pulling out one of his right here, "it was to close to take with 2 strikes." At least Kotsay didn't hit into a double play.

[pebadger]

You can't go down looking with the tie run on 3rd base and less then 2 outs. You have to protect the plate and put the ball in play.

 

wow, way to redeem that horrible AB Kotsay

Come on. It wasn't a horrible AB. The pitcher made some really good pitches (even if one did technically miss its spot by a healthy margin). Sometimes when a guy strikes out it's not because he sucked.

I can virtually gurantee that folks would have roasted him just as badly if he swung and missed at that pitch, claiming that he swung at a terrible pitch.

[TheCrew07]

At least Arnett is actually pitching well tonight, so the night hasn't been a total loss, though it is just R+ ball.

[BuckyBrewer61]

Come on. It wasn't a horrible AB. The pitcher made some really good pitches (even if one did technically miss its spot by a healthy margin). Sometimes when a guy strikes out it's not because he sucked.

True, but when a guy is slugging .293 with a .614 OPS three months into the season, it's because he sucks.

[bucksman4]

Blame it on the crowd that our team can't hit and pitch? If the crowd noise and passion reflected the players outcomes the Marlins would lose every game 0-25.

[pebadger]

I'm not blaming the crowd. Just saying it's been dead all night, with the exception of the always popular "we got screwed" motivation. BA said as much earlier, about 3 seconds after I was going to post the same thought.

[mastershake76]

well on the plus side, that 1 run that Kotsay could (or should) have knocked in by hitting the ball out of the infield is pretty much a moot point now.

[logan82]

pebadger]I'm not blaming the crowd. Just saying it's been dead all night, with the exception of the always popular "we got screwed" motivation. BA said as much earlier, about 3 seconds after I was going to post the same thought.

Hard for a crowd to get into a game when the players are not hitting or providing any reason for excitement.

[markedman5]

It was a strike how can it be a terrible pitch?

 

The guy didn't get the job done and hasn't gotten the job done almost all year.

 

Good players fail too but they get the benefit of the doubt because they help you win many games throught the year.

 

Kotsay really has done nothing to justify getting at bats. Unfortunately with braun being sick we have no other options since Gomez can't hit either.

[cnycerveceros]

I'm not blaming the crowd. Just saying it's been dead all night, with the exception of the always popular "we got screwed" motivation. BA said as much earlier, about 3 seconds after I was going to post the same thought.

Well, we did get screwed. I think even the fans are tired. It's been a long time since an off day, and the last week has been trying, especially coming after the previous week which was so good.

[ReverendBrewmeister]

Lucroy with the bomb! Too bad it was one batter too late in the order.

[pebadger]

Well, Reds and Bucs lost tonight. Can someone explain why, when teh NL Central has 1 million team, the Red Sox are playing the PADRES tonight?

[dlk9s]

dlk9s wrote:

Come on. It wasn't a horrible AB. The pitcher made some really good pitches (even if one did technically miss its spot by a healthy margin). Sometimes when a guy strikes out it's not because he sucked.

True, but when a guy is slugging .293 with a .614 OPS three months into the season, it's because he sucks.

I don't disagree that he sucks, but it's so frustrating when people pile on Kotsay and Yuni every time they make an out, even if it's not warranted in that particular instance. So give me a break with the "you need to protect the plate" crap because it was a nasty curve that barely caught the corner. That's a tough pitch on which to pull the trigger and it did not look like it was going to be a strike. If it was a straight fastball, sure, then it would have been pretty obvious that it was going to be close.

 

Give the opposing player some credit sometimes.

[markedman5]

It sure seems we score a large % of our runs on on homers.

 

Now BA and Rock are pulling out the nuckleballer hangover excuse? Good grief.....

[TheCrew07]

I was just about to go do other things then Lucroy goes yard.

 

Just when I think I'm out they suck me back in.

[dlk9s]

Nyjer should lean into one here.

[pebadger]

It was a strike how can it be a terrible pitch?

 

The guy didn't get the job done and hasn't gotten the job done almost all year.

 

Good players fail too but they get the benefit of the doubt because they help you win many games throught the year.

 

Kotsay really has done nothing to justify getting at bats. Unfortunately with braun being sick we have no other options since Gomez can't hit either.

Without FoxTrax most here would not have thought it a strike. Many umps wouldn't even have called it a strike given how badly he missed his spot. Kotsay can't win here. Yes, he's not good. But he can't win with lots of posters here.

 

[NYChez]

New Narveson rule: if he gives up a leadoff walk to a subpar hitter after the 5th inning, take him out immediately.

New lineup rule: Betancourt never again bats higher than 8th unless Wil Nieves rejoins the team.

[dlk9s]

John Kruk referring to the ump: "...we're going to get involved in this game one way or the other..."

[dlk9s]

I love watching DiFelice's frisbee slider.