Counsell in consideration for Rays manager

[jerichoholicninja]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/11/rays-announce-preliminary-managerial-candidates.html

 

If the Rays are considering him for their manager spot, do the Brewers add him to their own coaching staff to keep him around?

 

Also, the Rays have to hire Dave Martinez, right? He interviews for practically every managerial opening and he's been Maddon's bench coach almost as long as Maddon was there.

[pacopete4]

So long, farewell. I wish him luck if he gets it. What I won't do is really care. A guy that was a so-so player but of course from Wisconsin, played for the Brewers and so we give him more praise than he should get.

[JohnBriggs12]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/11/rays-announce-preliminary-managerial-candidates.html

 

If the Rays are considering him for their manager spot, do the Brewers add him to their own coaching staff to keep him around?

 

Also, the Rays have to hire Dave Martinez, right? He interviews for practically every managerial opening and he's been Maddon's bench coach almost as long as Maddon was there.

 

Adding him to their coaching staff won't prevent the Rays from hiring him as manager. Would be surprising if Counsell was hired over Martinez. If he is, Maddon will grab Martinez in a heart beat to add to his Cub staff. From what I understand though, the Rays coaching staff including Jim Hickey, their pitching coach are all still under contract so they can't go anywhere unless it's a promotion.

[patrickgpe]

Well they haven't replace Iorg yet, of course we have no idea who is under consideration.

 

I wanted Counsell to be considered for the brewers managerial job if Roenicke wasn't brought back. If the brewers see a future in coaching for him, maybe they would add him to the staff.

 

I think there is some reason why he doesn't have a job yet, he has been interviewing for jobs for many offseasons without a hit.

[patrickgpe]

So long, farewell. I wish him luck if he gets it. What I won't do is really care. A guy that was a so-so player but of course from Wisconsin, played for the Brewers and so we give him more praise than he should get.

 

there has been a handful of players that I thought were managerial material while here, and Craig is one of them, no matter his stats. The brewers had one of the best hitters (Carew) and pitchers (Stewart) ever as hitting and pitching coaches and got nowhere. He has a high baseball intellect while makes him attractive.

[bjkrautk]

there has been a handful of players that I thought were managerial material while here, and Craig is one of them, no matter his stats. The brewers had one of the best hitters (Carew) and pitchers (Stewart) ever as hitting and pitching coaches and got nowhere. He has a high baseball intellect while makes him attractive.

 

On that note, is Mark Loretta coaching anywhere?

[3and2Fastball]

I was under the impression that Counsell was more into front office work than coaching/managing

[dlk9s]

So long, farewell. I wish him luck if he gets it. What I won't do is really care. A guy that was a so-so player but of course from Wisconsin, played for the Brewers and so we give him more praise than he should get.

I'm pretty impressed with how belligerent and down most of your posts are.

[DocLuna7]

there has been a handful of players that I thought were managerial material while here, and Craig is one of them, no matter his stats. The brewers had one of the best hitters (Carew) and pitchers (Stewart) ever as hitting and pitching coaches and got nowhere. He has a high baseball intellect while makes him attractive.

 

On that note, is Mark Loretta coaching anywhere?

 

Without looking it up, I believe that Loretta is doing something in the Padres front office but doesn't have an on-field role.

[Invader3K]

So long, farewell. I wish him luck if he gets it. What I won't do is really care. A guy that was a so-so player but of course from Wisconsin, played for the Brewers and so we give him more praise than he should get.

 

No one ever pretended he was a superstar...he was a solid utility infielder type who had a very nice career, all things considered. No need to get down on the guy for not being a perennial All-Star.

[BradWI]

I was under the impression that Counsell was more into front office work than coaching/managing

 

Could always go back to the office after managing. He's still pretty young.

[patrickgpe]

there has been a handful of players that I thought were managerial material while here, and Craig is one of them, no matter his stats. The brewers had one of the best hitters (Carew) and pitchers (Stewart) ever as hitting and pitching coaches and got nowhere. He has a high baseball intellect while makes him attractive.

 

On that note, is Mark Loretta coaching anywhere?

 

Him, Cirillo, Matheny, and Counsell were the 4 I was referring too

[Bombers]

there has been a handful of players that I thought were managerial material while here, and Craig is one of them, no matter his stats. The brewers had one of the best hitters (Carew) and pitchers (Stewart) ever as hitting and pitching coaches and got nowhere. He has a high baseball intellect while makes him attractive.

 

On that note, is Mark Loretta coaching anywhere?

 

Him, Cirillo, Matheny, and Counsell were the 4 I was referring too

I have always wondered what Jeff Cirillo and Mark Loretta were up to. Those are two guys who didn't wow you in athletic ability but certainly wow'd you with what they accomplished on the field. Jeff was an 11th round pick and Mark a 7th rounder. I understand where you are picked doesn't matter but it wasn't like these were two guys you were expecting to put on such an accomplished career. Jeff played 14 years and finished with a .296 / .366 / .430 / .796. Mark played 15 years and finished with a .295 / .360 / .395 / .754. These guys definitely understood hitting. And both played great defense.

 

Per Wikipedia:

Cirrillo - He currently resides in Medina, WA and works as a MLB Scout with the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.

Loretta - Loretta retired after the 2009 season. He will join the Padres as a special assistant to the baseball operations staff. (Doesn't say if he is still there) ... Then it talks about his managing with the Isreal team: Loretta coached the Israeli national baseball team in the 2013 World Baseball Classic qualifier in September 2012. Israel lost to Spain in extra innings in the Pool Finals, missing out on a spot in the World Baseball Classic

 

If the Brewers were to ever can RRR, I would definitely be interested in these 2 (Cirillo and Loretta)

[TURBO]

So long, farewell. I wish him luck if he gets it. What I won't do is really care. A guy that was a so-so player but of course from Wisconsin, played for the Brewers and so we give him more praise than he should get.

 

Are we no longer allowed to like our own darn players, present or past?

 

Gosh, give us a break already...

[3and2Fastball]

I have no idea if Cirillo would be a good manager or not but the post-game interviews would at least be entertaining

[dlk9s]

I remember seeing Loretta doing some sideline reporting during what I think was a Padres game this year. I wasn't paying close attention, so I can't say for sure if he was a reporter or just talking to the announcers as a member of the Padres front office.

[djoctagone]

counsell evidently values being able to counsel his fellow council in the front office, as he has removed himself from consideration for the rays' managerial position.

[JohnBriggs12]

Pretty clear isn't it that Counsell is the GM in waiting. Melvin's timetable for retiring might be 2-3 years down the road or when Roenicke is let go, whichever comes first, the latter to allow his successor to pick the next manager.

[patrickgpe]

Pretty clear isn't it that Counsell is the GM in waiting. Melvin's timetable for retiring might be 2-3 years down the road or when Roenicke is let go, whichever comes first, the latter to allow his successor to pick the next manager.

 

I think Ray Montgomery is the GM in waiting if there is a GM in waiting.

[DocLuna7]

Doesn't it seem like the Rays are really taking quite awhile to name a new manager?

[jerichoholicninja]

Rays announced it will be Don Wakamotsu, Kevin Cash, or Raul Ibanez. Once again, Dave Martinez gets passed up.

 

I think Counsell is being groomed for some position with the Brewers, probably not GM, but maybe scouting director (after Montgomery replaces Melvin) or manager.

[MNBrew]

I think more than anything that the Brewers & Counsell have a mutual interest in keeping Counsell around the Brewers, probably not unlike Molitor & the Twins had since he retired as a player.

[djoctagone]

first the red sox for hitting coach, now the rays for manager. i think craig has earned the nickname of the pullout king.