Lucroy and Jeffress to the Rangers for CF Lewis Brinson, RHP Luis Ortiz, PTBNL…(Lucroy comments, post 523; PTBNL is Ryan Cordell, post 581)

[monty57]

I would guess there will be more pieces. Should be announced as soon as Commissioner's office okays it.

 

Guess this means Thornburg gets the rest of the season to prove himself as a closer, so he can bring us a ridiculous return this offseason.

[Raw Biz]

I hope Ortiz is more Bartolo Colon and less Ruben Quevedo.

[proudsoftballdad]

Nothing more then the two mlb wow not a good deal

[thumperden]

I'm praying you're right monty57.

[gobrew23]

Wow, can't believe that's it. Should have been able to get this for Lucroy alone or just got the P straight up for Jeffress and kept Lucroy. Seems like we got fleeced as of now.

 

Look at the Cleveland package... Lucroy was not getting this package alone.

[QuevedosTongue]

I hope Ortiz is more Bartolo Colon and less Ruben Quevedo.

 

Scouting report is that he has more fastball but less tongue than Ruben.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Smith is a lefty. That is why they were able to get that kind of return. Jeffress alone would not have commanded that kind of price tag.

 

I think this is a pretty good deal. We just got a TOR starter and a potentially really good OFer. As always with these deals, potential will be the ultimate jury.

[Matt Breen]

Brinson has had a bad year. Ortiz has a bad body. There is definitely risk here. Would have been better off trading Jeffress separately and holding on to Lucroy until the off-season, I think.

I agree both guys have risk. Ortiz just looks really large, especially for someone so young. Brinson was pretty awesome last year, so let's hope something clicks when he joins Milwaukee.

[NievesNoNO]

Sheesh. I know everyone is entitled to their opinion but how can some of you say it's not enough in return. I hope your not the same group that was disappointed in no "headline" prospects in the Clev. deal. Prospect wise Brinson is pretty elite.

[monty57]

Be happy we just got a TOR starter.

 

Evan Grant‏ @Evan_P_Grant

Scouts told me Ortiz was one pitcher in Rangers system who was certain to be better than a No. 3 starter

 

Like I said Ortiz alone is a better offer than the Indians entire package.

 

Put without Gallo, why Jeffress, I thought the rumor was if Gallo was to be included, a Jeffress or Smith had to be included....Well we included him!

 

Brinson is a pretty comparable comp value wise. They said they would trade Brinson for anyone but Sale. They would have preferred Gallo a week ago.

 

Yeah, yesterday the rumors were that the Brewers preferred Brinson to Gallo, but the Rangers would only include him if Jeffress was in the deal.

[wildcat83]

Jeffress alone should have netted Brinson and Ortiz. There must be more to this deal.

 

He's 1 more failed drug test away from a lifetime ban. Yes he's good lately, but that has to play in a little bit

[tmwiese55]

I would guess there will be more pieces. Should be announced as soon as Commissioner's office okays it.

 

Guess this means Thornburg gets the rest of the season to prove himself as a closer, so he can bring us a ridiculous return this offseason.

 

Right, throw in a couple lower level lottery tickets and call it fair enough.

[mattyo]

Wow, can't believe that's it. Should have been able to get this for Lucroy alone or just got the P straight up for Jeffress and kept Lucroy. Seems like we got fleeced as of now.

 

What makes you say this? Could not be farther from the truth. Did you even see our trade for lucroy to cleveland? We just got the #21 overall and #60 overall prospects (2 and 3 in Texas Farm) for lucroy and jeffress. We werent gonna get anything close to this for lucroy alone

[bill hAll Star]

Smith = high K/9 (will regain this year)

Chapman = high K/9

Miller = high K/9

 

Those guys went for a haul

 

Jeffress OK K/9

Melancon OK K/9

 

Those guys were throw-ins.

 

It seems like relievers that can miss bats in the playoffs is what people want. Jeffress' value wasn't nothing, but it doesn't fit the rest of it. I know JJ had good team control, but I think this is a good trade.

[patrickgpe]

Im VERY happy with this. I am assuming Gallo/Ortiz/Brinson???

 

Gallo not included.

Either jj is not in the trade or more guys than those 2 are coming back

[QuevedosTongue]

Sheesh. I know everyone is entitled to their opinion but how can some of you say it's not enough in return. I hope your not the same group that was disappointed in no "headline" prospects in the Clev. deal. Prospect wise Brinson is pretty elite.

 

I have no problem with Brinson and Ortiz, I love them both and am thrilled the Brewers added them to the farm system. I would have liked to see a couple lower level guys added is all.

[FidoMcCokefiend]

The market is nuts this year, but it wouldn't shock me that Jeffress had more value than Luc.

[djoctagone]

if this trade is two for two, it opens up two spots on the 40-man roster.

[MilwaukeesBest]

Morosi:

 

Brewers receiving PTBN in addition

[billymac]

Morosi says at least 1 more coming back to Milwaukee

[Warning Track Power]

To be honest, a Lucroy and Jeffress deal I thought would have been Gallo, Brinson and maybe a lesser SP. Color me a little underwhelmed, but very happy with this deal versus the Cleveland trade.

[pogokat]

one more player coming

[thumperden]

if this trade is two for two, it opens up two spots on the 40-man roster.

 

True, but whom do you think gets added at this point?

[pacopete4]

Well it sucks not knowing who we might get but hopefully this works out our way.

[Point Beer Is Best]

Jeffress alone should have netted Brinson and Ortiz. There must be more to this deal.

 

He's 1 more failed drug test away from a lifetime ban. Yes he's good lately, but that has to play in a little bit

 

I'm pretty sure guys on the 40 man roster are NOT tested for recreational drugs, which is what got Jeffress in trouble in the minors. I fully believe that he's gotten his act together anyways.