Wisconsin Basketball 2022-23

[Samurai Bucky]

10 hours ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

Klesmit will never garner all-whatever attention, but that kid is really underrated.

During the game against Liberty, I saw Klesmit get into his teammates' grill like he did in the first games of the year.  During most of the year, though, he didn't do that.  I'm not saying that is good or bad, but I think he is wired that way.  If he can master and harness that energy, he will be much better more consistently.

Oh... and not getting hurt 😉

[Jim French Stepstool]

3 hours ago, Samurai Bucky said:

During the game against Liberty, I saw Klesmit get into his teammates' grill like he did in the first games of the year.  During most of the year, though, he didn't do that.  I'm not saying that is good or bad, but I think he is wired that way.  If he can master and harness that energy, he will be much better more consistently.

Oh... and not getting hurt 😉

I think it's good, provided he's earned the respect that an attitude like that needs to go hand-in-hand with. I suspect he's done that. Can't be easy to do that right off the bat when you're the new guy.

[Brewcrew82]

And there it is…Really think he would be a great fit for this team at the 3 as a supplementary ball handler to Chucky. Max would then be able to come off the bench, and we’d be pretty much set at G. Assuming Wahl comes back, the only piece we’d be missing is a defensive/rim protector type in the front court. Gus should help negate our current Gilmore problem on offense, but probably not on defense. 

[homer]

1 hour ago, Brewcrew82 said:

And there it is…Really think he would be a great fit for this team at the 3 as a supplementary ball handler to Chucky. Max would then be able to come off the bench, and we’d be pretty much set at G. Assuming Wahl comes back, the only piece we’d be missing is a defensive/rim protector type in the front court. Gus should help negate our current Gilmore problem on offense, but probably not on defense. 

Aren't they DIII? Not super jazzed about a DIII guy even if he was frosh of the year in his conference. Or am I missing something?

[Brewcrew82]

3 minutes ago, homer said:

Aren't they DIII? Not super jazzed about a DIII guy even if he was frosh of the year in his conference. Or am I missing something?

Nope they made the jump to be DI last season. Rohde is legit. 

[LouisEly]

What concerns me about him is that he was only 32% from 3-point on a below-average strength of schedule.

[Brewcrew82]

1 hour ago, LouisEly said:

What concerns me about him is that he was only 32% from 3-point on a below-average strength of schedule.

80+% FT shooter, which generally portends to improvement from the three point line. Also shot .403% from three over February/March. So, not too worried about his shooting ability. I think 35% would be fine from him. 

[Jim French Stepstool]

49 minutes ago, LouisEly said:

What concerns me about him is that he was only 32% from 3-point on a below-average strength of schedule.

There were some clunkers shooting the ball, but he showed up well in some games vs P5 schools. Pretty sure there's some mutual interest. No one can really be certain how he'd deal with the athleticism he'd face from B10 wings, both in trying to guard people and working off the ball to get shots. That'll be analyzed, & we'll see if we have a fit. 

Not to pick on Rohde cuz it's universal, but these announcements from Central Casting are getting pretty hilarious. "The university, coaches, my teammates, the culture, everything about my experience is absolutely second to none. I'm truly blessed. I'm leaving."

[Oxy]

Fascinating contrast in game styles between Liberty and Oregon... Oregon is huge and long and athletic with no guards and nobody can shoot.

Need to start hitting outside shots cuz we can't get a shot off in the lane.

If we play sound defense I don't think they can score either.

[LouisEly]

Nice comeback the last five minutes.  The way their season has gone I was totally expecting Oregon to make that last-second heave.  That was their toughest game left.  Time to go to NYC and with the whole damn thing. 

[Sixtolezcano]

The alma mater wins……YES!!! BTW the next games are in Vegas/Paradise NV.

 

 

[Jim French Stepstool]

1 hour ago, LouisEly said:

Nice comeback the last five minutes.  The way their season has gone I was totally expecting Oregon to make that last-second heave.  That was their toughest game left.  Time to go to NYC and with the whole damn thing. 

Las Vegas, actually. Didn't know that myself until a week or so ago.

[Jim French Stepstool]

I've seen very little of North Texas, but from what I understand their pace of play is LAST in D1. So unless we shoot lights out it'll be another grinder pretty much by design.

Oregon was obviously disruptive with the shot-blocking ability. But what hurt us as much or more was that we let that get into our heads & effect a lot of the shots we were getting that WEREN'T going to get blocked. But those same shot-blocking athletes gave up more offensive rebounds than they should've, and we greatly outperformed them from the FT line. Sticking to the plan. Resiliency. Not panicking. Overlooked stuff that won them a game today.

No one on the Ducks had more rebounds than Jordan Davis. When he's as active as he was tonight he's very, very valuable. 

Essegian may have hit a bit of a wall, which you'd almost expect with this being his first year playing this type of schedule. Hoping the 6 days off freshens the legs a little.

Oh, and thank you Dana Altman for going to the 1-3-1😁.

[Jim French Stepstool]

2 hours ago, Oxy said:

Fascinating contrast in game styles between Liberty and Oregon... Oregon is huge and long and athletic with no guards and nobody can shoot.

Need to start hitting outside shots cuz we can't get a shot off in the lane.

If we play sound defense I don't think they can score either.

I think this was one of those games where the defense deserves credit, on both sides. But yeah, the shooting wasn't good most of the night. I think UW had something like 1 turnover in the 2nd half. With Oregons' length that's really impressive, and allows you to survive when you're not shooting as well as you'd like.

[CheezWizHed]

Maybe I'm looking too far ahead, but a UW-Cinn final would be interesting.  Would Coach Fickell attend? 🤔

[Brewcrew82]

11 hours ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

I've seen very little of North Texas, but from what I understand their pace of play is LAST in D1. So unless we shoot lights out it'll be another grinder pretty much by design.

Oregon was obviously disruptive with the shot-blocking ability. But what hurt us as much or more was that we let that get into our heads & effect a lot of the shots we were getting that WEREN'T going to get blocked. But those same shot-blocking athletes gave up more offensive rebounds than they should've, and we greatly outperformed them from the FT line. Sticking to the plan. Resiliency. Not panicking. Overlooked stuff that won them a game today.

No one on the Ducks had more rebounds than Jordan Davis. When he's as active as he was tonight he's very, very valuable. 

Essegian may have hit a bit of a wall, which you'd almost expect with this being his first year playing this type of schedule. Hoping the 6 days off freshens the legs a little.

Oh, and thank you Dana Altman for going to the 1-3-1😁.

Jordan Davis was valuable tonight, for sure, but I don't think we can have him as our top backup guard if we hope to return to the top of the BIG next season. His shooting is way too inconsistent, which absolutely can't be the case if you're going to be playing with Wahl, Gilmore, and Crowl. Also, has far less dribbling and creating ability than our other guards. If he was a 37% 3 point shooter instead of a 30% 3 point shooter, he would be great with his cutting and rebounding ability, but, alas, he generally finds the side of the backboard more than he does the net. 

[adambr2]

Is/would winning an NIT Championship be enjoyable on any level? Do they hang banners for that? 

I'm not being sarcastic, it's pretty uncharted territory. I've personally enjoyed the run more than I would have enjoyed a 1 and done in the NCAAs.

I'm guessing it's usually more rewarding for a mid-major who usually never gets to the dance anyway. 

[MVP2110]

13 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

Is/would winning an NIT Championship be enjoyable on any level? Do they hang banners for that? 

I'm not being sarcastic, it's pretty uncharted territory. I've personally enjoyed the run more than I would have enjoyed a 1 and done in the NCAAs.

I'm guessing it's usually more rewarding for a mid-major who usually never gets to the dance anyway. 

I wouldn't hang a banner but just from a pure joy perception I would find it enjoyable. In the end this season won't be considered a success regardless but winning the NIT would at least be something 

[Jim French Stepstool]

39 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Jordan Davis was valuable tonight, for sure, but I don't think we can have him as our top backup guard if we hope to return to the top of the BIG next season. His shooting is way too inconsistent, which absolutely can't be the case if you're going to be playing with Wahl, Gilmore, and Crowl. Also, has far less dribbling and creating ability than our other guards. If he was a 37% 3 point shooter instead of a 30% 3 point shooter, he would be great with his cutting and rebounding ability, but, alas, he generally finds the side of the backboard more than he does the net. 

Jordan is valuable when he lets the game come to him. That's a cliche, but in his case it's spot-on. Pretty much all his points yesterday came from hustle & trying to be disruptive. When he concentrates on that stuff & doesn't even think about scoring, he'll often get his 6, 7 or 8 points. I think when he has issues they stem from him thinking he NEEDS to provide offense. 

Also, his defense has been very good at times, and can be great if he adds consistency. The shortcomings you point out, yeah, they'll most likely always be there.

[Jim French Stepstool]

7 minutes ago, MVP2110 said:

I wouldn't hang a banner but just from a pure joy perception I would find it enjoyable. In the end this season won't be considered a success regardless but winning the NIT would at least be something 

If they manage to win the NIT, I'd probably hang a banner. it's not what you aspire to in November but it's a 32-team thing. It's an accomplishment.

I'd imagine right now the players & coaches are having a better time than the members of the UNC program, who simply chose to deflate the balls.

[bjkrautk]

https://www.si.com/college/2023/03/22/oregon-dana-altman-fan-attendance-nit-wisconsin

“You see the commitment that Wisconsin makes with the cheerleaders, the band,” Altman said, per Jarrid Denney. “We make a commitment, don’t get me wrong. But you can just see how important it is to them. It’s important to me. We should have more people here. Alright? I mean, the guys played hard. 3,300 people…that’s not good enough. If it’s me, then get rid of me. If you need somebody else to be a promoter, to do something. But 3,300 people is embarrassing. I’m not in a very good mood, you can tell."

[Brewcrew82]

21 minutes ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

Jordan is valuable when he lets the game come to him. That's a cliche, but in his case it's spot-on. Pretty much all his points yesterday came from hustle & trying to be disruptive. When he concentrates on that stuff & doesn't even think about scoring, he'll often get his 6, 7 or 8 points. I think when he has issues they stem from him thinking he NEEDS to provide offense. 

Also, his defense has been very good at times, and can be great if he adds consistency. The shortcomings you point out, yeah, they'll most likely always be there.

I agree that he provides some great attributes in his rebounding and (potentially) his defense. But, again, you need shooters when you're constantly playing alongside two of Wahl, Gilmore, and Crowl. 

[AKCheesehead]

14 hours ago, LouisEly said:

Nice comeback the last five minutes.  The way their season has gone I was totally expecting Oregon to make that last-second heave.  That was their toughest game left.  Time to go to NYC and with the whole damn thing. 

Hah by the time I got done with work and some other things and remembered to turn the game on, there was 2.2 seconds left.  I had no single doubt in my mind Oregon was going to make a heave and win in OT because that's about how it's gone for them whenever there's been a game I was able to watch this season.

[Samurai Bucky]

14 hours ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

I think this was one of those games where the defense deserves credit, on both sides. But yeah, the shooting wasn't good most of the night. I think UW had something like 1 turnover in the 2nd half. With Oregons' length that's really impressive, and allows you to survive when you're not shooting as well as you'd like.

I was disappointed because the post game was not working, period.  So the best thing was to continue to go to the post game.  Pound the dribble for 8 seconds and either get it blocked or throw up an off balanced shot.  At the end of the game, they got back to being more mobile... like they were in the first Michigan game.

My wife and I (knowing nobody could hear us) were almost yelling at the TV -- "yup!  Go back to Crowl and watch him fumble and stumble."  Of course, if the Badgers would hit their threes with more consistency, then things would open up.

[CheezWizHed]

3 hours ago, MVP2110 said:

I wouldn't hang a banner but just from a pure joy perception I would find it enjoyable. In the end this season won't be considered a success regardless but winning the NIT would at least be something 

To me it is similar to the Packers winning their division or NFC championship.  You are happy to win it, but you won't wear it on a Tshirt because it means you didn't win the Super Bowl.