Should have kept hiura

[SomewhereInTime]

12 hours ago, igor67 said:

I'm very surprised he cleared waivers. It's not like he's a blackhole offensively. There are players who've shown less that still get playing time

I guess but those players usually have options, and you can't really put Huira anywhere in the field.

[RWeeksFan23]

remember when shortly after Hiura was drafted, he was in the broadcast booth with BA and Rock, and at one point in the conversation, Hiura casually stated, "hitting is the easy part..."

guess that never really came to fruition.

[wallus]

Low effort meme

[dlk9s]

Let's take it easy on the OP. Hiura's strikeouts would have fit in perfectly fine in the opening day lineup.

[Frisbee Slider]

if Hiura has 1.100 OPS in Nashville come May, does he get recalled to Milwaukee?

[Austin Tatious]

If you told me when Hiura first came up that he would have this much trouble with strikeouts and reverse splits, I would have been shocked.  I get that he doesn’t want to hit the ball into the ground but I can’t recall anybody miss as many cookies in the middle of the strike zone because he’s uppercutting like a high school kid.  But he’s had long enough to correct this and he was as bad as ever this spring.  I can see why the Brewers had Keston-fatigue.  

[Brock Beauchamp]

On 3/28/2023 at 9:07 PM, TURBO said:

And where does that get us exactly?  A wild card playoff appearance?  A possible division championship and an early playoff exit?

I get it, we need those things if we are going to have a chance, but this offensive line-up will not take us to the world series without a stellar year from our entire pitching staff.

No one thought the Phillies pitching staff and defense could get them anywhere last year and they made it to the World Series.

The Brewers could definitely use some offensive help but just making the postseason is the real challenge. The team is good enough that if the right people get the right kind of hot at the right time, anything can happen. It's not as if the offense is bad, it's just mediocre.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

On 4/2/2023 at 7:19 AM, Frisbee Slider said:

if Hiura has 1.100 OPS in Nashville come May, does he get recalled to Milwaukee?

Depends on how Winker and Voit are faring at the MLB level. Even still, it's going to come down to more than just numbers for Keston. He needs to revamp his approach if he wants to make an MLB impact. Because if his K rate continues to hover at 40%, he's destined to be a AAAA type.

[jerichoholicninja]

On 4/2/2023 at 7:19 AM, Frisbee Slider said:

if Hiura has 1.100 OPS in Nashville come May, does he get recalled to Milwaukee?

I don't think Hiura can get back on his play alone. It's going to depend on some long term or season ending injuries. Since he was outrighted off the 40 man someone would have to come off and I believe he can refuse the assignment next time they try to send him down. Basically if they bring him up it's his last chance so I doubt they would do that unless he has the opportunity for consistant playing time over a couple months.

[young guns]

1 hour ago, jerichoholicninja said:

I don't think Hiura can get back on his play alone. It's going to depend on some long term or season ending injuries. Since he was outrighted off the 40 man someone would have to come off and I believe he can refuse the assignment next time they try to send him down. Basically if they bring him up it's his last chance so I doubt they would do that unless he has the opportunity for consistant playing time over a couple months.

I think he could, but it would require a drastic change to his approach or swing which results on a hige drop in his k% and still having a very good BA.

[jerichoholicninja]

12 minutes ago, young guns said:

I think he could, but it would require a drastic change to his approach or swing which results on a hige drop in his k% and still having a very good BA.

Barring injury where is he going to play? 1B, 2B, and DH are all pretty well spoken for and full. Even if you consider him an outfielder there's just no where for him to go. Let's say he is OPS'ing 1.000 in AAA a month from now, I really hope they wouldn't call him up just to have get a handful of at bats every week like they've done so many times before.

[nate82]

On 4/2/2023 at 5:19 AM, Frisbee Slider said:

if Hiura has 1.100 OPS in Nashville come May, does he get recalled to Milwaukee?

I think he gets traded if that were to happen.  The better question is if he drops his k% to 20-25% with an OPS around 900 then it becomes interesting.  If he is at a 1.100 OPS in AAA and still has a 30+ K% then I think he will be traded over keeping him on the roster.  

[torts]

Kestwho?  Bricedaddy for lyfe baybeeee

[Outlander]

Hiura probably is better than Voit but may be a blessing so he can work on things in the minors. If he improves and works on his k% like others have suggested he will be brought up later this summer. Hiura wasn't going to improve by sitting on the bench all season.

[Playing Catch]

3 hours ago, Outlander said:

Hiura probably is better than Voit but may be a blessing so he can work on things in the minors. If he improves and works on his k% like others have suggested he will be brought up later this summer. Hiura wasn't going to improve by sitting on the bench all season.

If he's better than Voit, he has a funny way of showing it. Especially if we're considering the prospective role.

I want Keston to become an every day player too, but he just isn't a prospect anymore. He's got 1000 MLB plate appearances. He is what he is, which is exactly why he needs a complete overhaul, because he's got too much talent not to try and fix it.

[Outlander]

He was better than Voit last year but again not sustainable with his k%. Certainly has better future than Voit who is probably toast.

[rickh150]

Only 7 home runs so far… couple weeks in.

[Frisbee Slider]

15 minutes ago, rickh150 said:

Only 7 home runs so far… couple weeks in.

The season Barry Bonds hit 73 HR, he averaged a HR every 6.5 AB. Hiura is only averaging a HR every 7.4 AB in Nashville.

Hiura striking out 32.7% of AB.

[rickh150]

10 minutes ago, Frisbee Slider said:

The season Barry Bonds hit 73 HR, he averaged a HR every 6.5 AB. Hiura is only averaging a HR every 7.4 AB in Nashville.

Hiura striking out 32.7% of AB.

Just a little worse than Bonds…ha.

I’ll take a 50% K rate if he can hit 40 HRs.

 

[Fear The Chorizo]

20 minutes ago, rickh150 said:

Just a little worse than Bonds…ha.

I’ll take a 50% K rate if he can hit 40 HRs.

 

if he spends the full year down in AAA he might hit 50.  

The ironic thing is the Brewers appear to have a much different and diverse offense at the start of this season than they've shown the past couple seasons, yet they're still striking out a ton and hitting for good power - team speed got a significant upgrade with the youngsters, and it does seem like they've done a better job at taking walks/getting on base.

I think Hiura will still play a significant role in Milwaukee this year - seem to be enough players in Milwaukee getting injured not to call him up at some point.  He's done this in AAA before while K-ing there around 30%, if he could carry that rate into MLB he'd be very valuable in the everyday lineup.  Recent past indicates he's not able to do that, but his bat makes too much damage when he does make contact not to at least give him another opportunity at the MLB level later this season. He'd be a heckuva bat to throw in the 9 slot in the lineup

[BlightyBrew]

He is has also starting playing out in LF.   

[kalle8]

9 hours ago, rickh150 said:

Just a little worse than Bonds…ha.

I’ll take a 50% K rate if he can hit 40 HRs.

 

Chris Carter was not tendered by the Brewers after hitting a NL leading 41 bombs and leading the NL in Ks as well.

[Jopal78]

9 hours ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

if he spends the full year down in AAA he might hit 50.  

The ironic thing is the Brewers appear to have a much different and diverse offense at the start of this season than they've shown the past couple seasons, yet they're still striking out a ton and hitting for good power - team speed got a significant upgrade with the youngsters, and it does seem like they've done a better job at taking walks/getting on base.

I think Hiura will still play a significant role in Milwaukee this year - seem to be enough players in Milwaukee getting injured not to call him up at some point.  He's done this in AAA before while K-ing there around 30%, if he could carry that rate into MLB he'd be very valuable in the everyday lineup.  Recent past indicates he's not able to do that, but his bat makes too much damage when he does make contact not to at least give him another opportunity at the MLB level later this season. He'd be a heckuva bat to throw in the 9 slot in the lineup

He got 1000 PAs with the Brewers they’ve given him plenty of opportunities. I think at this juncture they’ve moved on and barring a rash of injuries he won’t see the home dugout in Milwaukee again. Though if he continues to do his usual destruction of AAA pitching maybe the Brewers could swap him to Kansas City or Oakland for more bullpen depth like those they’ve been soaking up recently.

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

9 minutes ago, Jopal78 said:

He got 1000 PAs with the Brewers they’ve given him plenty of opportunities. I think at this juncture they’ve moved on and barring a rash of injuries he won’t see the home dugout in Milwaukee again. Though if he continues to do his usual destruction of AAA pitching maybe the Brewers could swap him to Kansas City or Oakland for more bullpen depth like those they’ve been soaking up recently.

Hiura has destroyed AAA pitching every time they've sent him down over the last 3 years. The fact that he's destroying AAA pitching once again shouldn't surprise anyone. For him to get back to the majors, he's going to have to prove that he's made significant changes to the approach that had him striking out at a 40+% clip last season. It also wouldn't hurt if he devoted more time to making himself into a solid defensive option somewhere on the diamond. It is encouraging to see him getting time in the corner OF, and to see him making significant game-saving type plays out there. If he proves that he can play in the field and not be a terrible liability, and he continues to rake while reducing the swing-and-miss tendencies he's developed over the last few years, there's a chance we may see him in a Brewer uniform again. If anything, the production may convince another team to give up something in a trade to take a chance on him.

[RobDeer 45]

Didn't realize he's still only 26..... possible person to trade, maybe a change of scenery helps him out?