Brewers-Astros Monday Night -- Burnes of the Brewers vs. Javier of the Astros

[edfunderburk]

I surely hope we don’t trade our prospects at the deadline to try & get a bite of the apple

[rondoman]

52 minutes ago, HarryDoyle said:

Burnes has not pitched like an ace this season.

Thanks man never woulda known otherwise. 

[edfunderburk]

4 minutes ago, jason21nl said:

Lol.  This team was so much fun until they weren’t.   They’re bad

This has been a tough 25 game stretch for sure

[yourout]

Watching the Cards come back from a crap start to win this putrid division is going to suck.

[Jopal78]

8 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

I surely hope we don’t trade our prospects at the deadline to try & get a bite of the apple

Other way around, at this pace they’ll be taking it down to the studs on a rebuild 

[yourout]

Just now, Jopal78 said:

Other way around, at this pace they’ll be taking it down to the studs on a rebuild 

If they get to 5 games under .500 it's time to sell sell sell.

[HarryDoyle]

Stay tuned for the suddenly discovered injury to Burnes that will put him on the IL.

[BruisedCrew]

Brosseau better start loosening up. 

[duewizard]

Peguero finally blew up

[yfinn6]

These guys are terrible. I'm trying to think the last time I've been this down on a Brewers team. 

[edfunderburk]

This team is in a slump reminiscent of the one they experienced about this time (a tad later) last year.

They look disinterested.

Burnes has been mediocre this year - he was terrible tonight.

I love baseball, but last year (75% of the season) & this year (the last few weeks) is not enjoyable to watch. 

[rondoman]

20 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

This has been a tough 25 game stretch for sure

Rough 53 years amirite?

[rondoman]

Just now, edfunderburk said:

This team is in a slump reminiscent of the one they experienced about this time (a tad later) last year.

They look disinterested.

Burnes has been mediocre this year - he was terrible tonight.

I love baseball, but last year (75% of the season) & this year (the last few weeks) is not enjoyable to watch. 

Exactly.

Even wins aren't fun to watch. This team is terribly unexciting. 

[Simba2020]

I figured about a week ago, the division was the Cardinals. Nothing that has happened since dampens that feeling. Knowing them, this will be 2006 where an 83 win team goes on to win it all.

[edfunderburk]

4 minutes ago, rondoman said:

Rough 53 years amirite?

There have been several fun seasons … last year & this year are not included in my list of favorites

I’m not a fan of the expanded playoff model because it allows mediocre to bad teams like the 2023 Brewers to “remain in contention” far too long

I’m aware that we are in first place in the NL Central - but this team is as cold as ice & not showing any signs of life or giving me any hope

[jason21nl]

Adames is definitely not the answer 

[edfunderburk]

1 minute ago, jason21nl said:

Adames is definitely not the answer 

His trade value is plummeting too

[Jopal78]

The problem is they’re not even competitive. When they lose it’s been 3-0, 10-1. At least the bad teams of the late 90s would lose 7-5 and were fun to watch

[wiguy94]

1 hour ago, edfunderburk said:

Is Burnes tipping his pitches? 

The Astros are crushing the ball

He looks pedestrian

Probably less tipping pitches and more he just refuses to pitch the ball up in the zone. Hitters can just focus on the lower half of the zone so when Burnes with his shaky command leaks one over the middle of the plate it's just getting crushed. He's already given up more HR this year than he did in his Cy Young winning season and it's not even freaking June yet lol

 

[Sixtolezcano]

Sure is quiet here tonight.

[Jim French Stepstool]

One of my favorite pastimes in a game like tonite is listening to the announcers flexing their justification & lipstick-on-a-pig muscles. Fortunately BA was in the booth tonite as he's a savant at it. What I learned this evening is that maybe Burnes is feeling the pressure of being a staff ace with all the injuries. That might actually be true but boy, if it is what a bad reason. My favorite was

"He gave up 4 home runs tonight, but they WERE all solo shots"

Breezing through the first two hitters & then back-to-back walks to get to the #5 hitter (who I believe was homerless on the season) was interesting to me. I think it screams lack of confidence for whatever reason. And of course he gets taken deep four times afterward which only fuels it. Even in the 6 shutout innings vs KC, four walks. Just very odd.

Not that it makes a difference in a game like this but the ABs have gotten better. Anderson took the night off offensively & Contreras swinging 3-0 in the fourth was horrible: but you scored two & on another night the same ABs might've gotten you 4 or so. But obviously what was supposed to be the strength of the team, right now isn't.

[yourout]

1 minute ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

One of my favorite pastimes in a game like tonite is listening to the announcers flexing their justification & lipstick-on-a-pig muscles. Fortunately BA was in the booth tonite as he's a savant at it. What I learned this evening is that maybe Burnes is feeling the pressure of being a staff ace with all the injuries. That might actually be true but boy, if it is what a bad reason. My favorite was

"He gave up 4 home runs tonight, but they WERE all solo shots"

Breezing through the first two hitters & then back-to-back walks to get to the #5 hitter (who I believe was homerless on the season) was interesting to me. I think it screams lack of confidence for whatever reason. And of course he gets taken deep four times afterward which only fuels it. Even in the 6 shutout innings vs KC, four walks. Just very odd.

Not that it makes a difference in a game like this but the ABs have gotten better. Anderson took the night off offensively & Contreras swinging 3-0 in the fourth was horrible: but you scored two & on another night the same ABs might've gotten you 4 or so. But obviously what was supposed to be the strength of the team, right now isn't.

Right now there is no strength on the team.

There is nothing they do well on a consistent basis. Much like last year.

Williams is the only thing you can hang your hat on right now.

[Jim French Stepstool]

1 minute ago, yourout said:

Right now there is no strength on the team.

There is nothing they do well on a consistent basis. Much like last year.

Williams is the only thing you can hang your hat on right now.

Right now, absolutely. The starting pitching was the basket they put their eggs in, which is smart. When you have 7 or 8 you think you can rely on to various degrees & half of them are missing at the same time, you're in trouble.

I think you can also hang your hat on the defensive performance on most days, provided people are in the spots that maximize their ability. But when the rotation becomes a revolving M.A.S.H. unit & Burnes underperforms it's tough to cover for that.

[Fear The Chorizo]

56 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

Probably less tipping pitches and more he just refuses to pitch the ball up in the zone. Hitters can just focus on the lower half of the zone so when Burnes with his shaky command leaks one over the middle of the plate it's just getting crushed. He's already given up more HR this year than he did in his Cy Young winning season and it's not even freaking June yet lol

 

Burnes has been impacted by the pitch clock, no doubt.  

[wiguy94]

8 minutes ago, Fear The Chorizo said:

Burnes has been impacted by the pitch clock, no doubt.  

I don't think it's anything to do with the pitch clock. The book is just out on him and he's doing absolutely nothing to adjust.

The guy had a 3.97 ERA post trade deadline last season and his ERA this season is also 3.97, so I don't know how people can blame the pitch clock.