Milwaukee Brewers 2023 All Star(s)

[sveumrules]

Getting close to that time of year...

[brewerfan82]

Murphy and Smith have been clearly the best catchers in the NL thus far, but wanted to give Contreras a little more love than he's getting in our poll so far.

2023 NL Qualifying Catchers:

[sveumrules]

1 minute ago, brewerfan82 said:

Murphy and Smith have been clearly the best catchers in the NL thus far, but wanted to give Contreras a little more love than he's getting in our poll so far.

2023 NL Qualifying Catchers:

Contreras definitely has a chance if they go with three catchers, though JTR has the edge in name recognition.

[Brewcrew82]

Devin is pretty much a lock. Yelich may sneak in as a reserve OF or injury replacement. Wild Bill with an outside shot. But that'll be it. 

[Outlander]

Yelich has had a really nice May and June after a slow start. He has the name as well so actually going both him and Williams.

The percentages in this poll are not representative of the actual voting as well because if 7/10 voters believe Williams makes it then more like 70% vs. the 46% in the poll.

[LouisEly]

Yelich is having a fine season, but he's 15th among NL OF in OPS.  Several guys would have to back out before it would get to him.

[wiguy94]

25 minutes ago, LouisEly said:

Yelich is having a fine season, but he's 15th among NL OF in OPS.  Several guys would have to back out before it would get to him.

He's also 6th in the NL in fWAR this year. 

[Brewcrew82]

 

Devin obviously well-deserving. Yelich absolutely robbed though by Castellanos and Gurriel. Yelich has a better fWAR than Matt Olson...

[wiguy94]

1 minute ago, Brewcrew82 said:

 

Devin obviously well-deserving. Yelich absolutely robbed though by Castellanos and Gurriel. Yelich has a better fWAR than Matt Olson...

I'm guessing you meant to say Austin Riley not Matt Olson. Olson has a 145 wRC+ and leads the NL in HR. Riley has a 110 wRC+ and isn't even on pace to hit 4 WAR. The fact Riley made it over Candalerio is a joke.

[sveumrules]

Wander Franco is the best player on the best team in baseball, 2nd in the AL in WAR behind Ohtani…but not an All Star.

[Brewcrew82]

4 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

I'm guessing you meant to say Austin Riley not Matt Olson. Olson has a 145 wRC+ and leads the NL in HR. Riley has a 110 wRC+ and isn't even on pace to hit 4 WAR. The fact Riley made it over Candalerio is a joke.

No. Coming into today Yelich had a 2.5 fWAR, whereas Olson was at 2.4.

Not that Olson shouldn't have made it, because he's been amazing. Just that Olson was considered a lock, so it's kind of disturbing how Yelich couldn't get in over Lourdes Gurriel Jr with a better fWAR than Matt Olson. 

[Brewcrew82]

1 minute ago, sveumrules said:

Wander Franco is the best player on the best team in baseball, 2nd in the AL in WAR behind Ohtani…but not an All Star.

They need to take away fan and player voting privileges. 

[MadThinker88]

14 minutes ago, sveumrules said:

Wander Franco is the best player on the best team in baseball, 2nd in the AL in WAR behind Ohtani…but not an All Star.

Multiple AL All-Stars are on the injured list (Judge, Yordis the position guy from Houston & Shane M the pitcher from Tampa) so Franco will get named on as a replacement.

With the multiple replacements they do not need to do 1 for 1 sub by position.

[BruisedCrew]

20 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

They need to take away fan and player voting privileges. 

I’m curious what your proposal would be for selecting All Star rosters. 
 

I’ll preface my comments by saying that who gets selected for the All Star Game is very low on my list of things in sports that I care about. With the predominant use of the game’s best closers to pitch much of the game, a game that was already a meaningless exhibition has become a dull exhibition. 
 

Your comments suggest that you would prefer a statistical evaluation to choose players over selecting fan favorites or players selected by their peers. That would seem to have the potential to make the game even less appealing to the public, which might prefer seeing an established star like Mike Trout over some Joe Nobody who happens to have a slightly higher FWAR + over the first 10 weeks of this season. 

[Brewcrew82]

1 minute ago, BruisedCrew said:

I’m curious what your proposal would be for selecting All Star rosters. 
 

I’ll preface my comments by saying that who gets selected for the All Star Game is very low on my list of things in sports that I care about. With the predominant use of the game’s best closers to pitch much of the game, a game that was already a meaningless exhibition has become a dull exhibition. 
 

Your comments suggest that you would prefer a statistical evaluation to choose players over selecting fan favorites or players selected by their peers. That would seem to have the potential to make the game even less appealing to the public, which might prefer seeing an established star like Mike Trout over some Joe Nobody who happens to have a slightly higher FWAR + over the first 10 weeks of this season. 

Let the writers and the Commissioners' office decide together. It should be based on merit, not a popularity or ballot-stuffing contest. 

[BruisedCrew]

2 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Let the writers and the Commissioners' office decide together. It should be based on merit, not a popularity or ballot-stuffing contest. 

Like I said, I don’t care much what they do, but it is certain that if just writers  and the Commissioner’s office made the selections, there would still be plenty of controversy over who gets selected and who gets “snubbed”. 

When they took away the fan vote in 1957 after the Cincinnati ballot stuffing episode (which you may or may not know about) they found interest in the game waning. So, they put a fan voting system in place again in the 70’ s and there has been some form of it ever since. 

Take the vote away from fans and have a bunch of writers (who have their own biases) applying various standards to make selections probably wouldn’t make you any happier if a Brewer or some other player that you think is deserving isn’t selected. It’s not like fans are universally satisfied  with writers’ selections on postseason awards. 
 

 

[RWeeksFan23]

what is the difference between war and fwar? 

[Jake McKibbin]

1 minute ago, RWeeksFan23 said:

what is the difference between war and fwar? 

WAR is the general term, but two different sites have calculations that slightly differ in it

fWAR is from Fangraphs

bWAR is from Baseball Reference

[Brewcrew82]

Corbin Carroll's injury last night likely opens up a spot for Yeli on the all star team.

[Outlander]

Too bad for Carroll as he is a heck of a player and from Seattle so must be disappointing for him. Yelich is certainly in the running but would think teammate Ketel Marte gets a serious look as well as Tatis.

[Brewcrew82]

16 minutes ago, Outlander said:

Too bad for Carroll as he is a heck of a player and from Seattle so must be disappointing for him. Yelich is certainly in the running but would think teammate Ketel Marte gets a serious look as well as Tatis.

True. Wonder if Marte gets Swanson's spot. Hopefully, Tatis is being blackballed by MLB and Yeli gets Carroll's spot. 

[Brewcrew82]

Corbin Burnes has been added to the All-Star roster. Devin Williams has been replaced by Kimbrel. Devin will attend, but not pitching due to recent workload. 

[rickh150]

Ha! Burnes was not even in our pole, How is he an All Star this year? 

[YelichPosse]

On 7/7/2023 at 1:33 PM, Outlander said:

Too bad for Carroll as he is a heck of a player and from Seattle so must be disappointing for him. Yelich is certainly in the running but would think teammate Ketel Marte gets a serious look as well as Tatis.

Can we talk about this. How in the world was he back in the next game yesterday…. And hit a walk off today was it? He absolutely looked like he was going to be out for a long time… wow. If he was a Brewer and walked off like that you know he’d be done for the year!