2024 NFL Discussion Thread

[HarryDoyle]

1 minute ago, young guns said:

Arizona wasted about 30 seconds by not calling  time out the play before the td.  What were they thinking?

1:13 is still plenty of time to get into field goal position.

[yourout]

Dude. Get out of bounds

[HarveysWBs]

Can’t believe the Vikings got left off the hook again. Really kills me we didn’t take care of either them or Detroit at home. Can’t count on anyone else.

[yourout]

Cards gagging this one away.

[young guns]

4 absolutely terrible plays.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

7 minutes ago, young guns said:

Arizona wasted about 30 seconds by not calling  time out the play before the td.  What were they thinking?

They were thinking about running the worst end-of-game drive you've ever seen. 

[young guns]

I'll give them some bad luck on that second down play, but man that was a terrible sequence.

[AKCheesehead]

I haven't watched a Jets game broadcast from MetLife in I don't know how long.  If I attended a game there (which I never would) I'd probably have nightmares from the PA carrying on.  So obnoxious even with the sound turned down. 

[Sixtolezcano]

1 hour ago, yourout said:

Cards gagging this one away.

Just like the NFL planned. The fix is in, Det. Or the Vikes in the SB.

[homer]

Just now, Sixtolezcano said:

Just like the NFL planned. The fix is in, Det. Or the Vikes in the SB.

Cards should have gone for it on 4th intead of kicking the FG to go up 6

[Sixtolezcano]

1 hour ago, yourout said:

Cards gagging this one away.

Just like the NFL planned. The fix is in. Do you think all these 4th quarter comebacks are inadvertent?

[adambr2]

Seriously have no idea what Tony Romo was talking about right there when he was going on about Lamar losing possession.

[adambr2]

5 minutes ago, Sixtolezcano said:

Just like the NFL planned. The fix is in. Do you think all these 4th quarter comebacks are inadvertent?

Can’t tell if this is serious or not, but the level of conspiracy that would be required for a league-wide fix, and the several hundred people that would have to be in on it, are way beyond anything that would be realistic to pull off without numerous leaks and whistleblowers.

[HarryDoyle]

Yikes. Kirk Cousins with four interceptions today? Looks like the beginning of the end for him.

[HarryDoyle]

Probably the beginning of the end for Justin Tucker too.

[Recovering Chicagoan]

Eagles look to be a bit stronger than the Lions right now.

[HarryDoyle]

Now these are the weather conditions football games should be played in.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

SF is dead and buried. 

[yourout]

8 minutes ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

SF is dead and buried. 

Good. Drive a steak through the heart and drop a dump truck load of dirt on them.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

The NFC is going to be very tough. I am assuming Tampa will end up winning the South (dangerous team) and if Seattle wins the West that is a hard place to play, though they suck there this season. Then your 5th and 6th could be MINN/GB with like 12 or 13 wins. Just a loaded slate. Going to Seattle a second time would stink for a 12-5-ish season.  I think that is probably the draw I'd want though. 

[HarveysWBs]

Well, well, well. The 49ers are finally paying the piper on their incredibly hubristic deal for Christian McCaffrey.

I’m never glad that someone gets hurt, so that isn’t my point. But an already injury-prone, not particularly robust running back who you make the centerpiece of your offense because you think you can get by with JAGs at QB was always such an incandescently ridiculous gamble that it’s immensely satisfying to see it blow up in Lynch’s face.

Of course, it almost worked last year, which would have been insufferable. But no one needs to tell a Packers fan what almost gets you. Enjoy the offseason, San Francisco. Good riddance.

[BrewerFan]

17 hours ago, HarryDoyle said:

I thought the same about Williams as well. Teams are willing to look past the character issues if the talent is too great to resist the pressure of passing on him in favor of another player. Williams' issues are not on the same level as Leaf's, but there were red flags on him coming out of college.

I don't even know what they were though. Was it just general immaturity? With Spencer Rattler, you saw it on that Documentary, he was just obnoxious, but with Caleb, it seemed like he was not coachable and then I just heard "maturity issues." That and when you hve the talent he had around him and you can't beat ANY of the top-ranked teams(IIRC, his record vs ranked teams was  like 2-11 or something). 

 

I heard people talking about Jayden Daniels, some even saying they should consider him...and when they made their argument, it's pretty easy. He was incredible throwing the ball outside the numbers and pushing it downfield. He was a great runner. A more elusive Randall Cunningham type. Even had the 6'3 frame. 

But I don't think anyone was seriously looking at Daniels over Caleb. Maybe the Bears should have. 

 

I believe Williams will end up having some monster seasons...I just don't know if he's going to be the guy who can get you over the top. The lack of awareness the last play...saying you couldn't get the FG team out there anyway...yes, it's on the HC, but you gotta get that ball snapped at LEAST by ~10 seconds. You let 33 seconds or so tick off. That's not just a rookie mistake, that's worse than that. 

[BrewerFan]

3 hours ago, HarveysWBs said:

Well, well, well. The 49ers are finally paying the piper on their incredibly hubristic deal for Christian McCaffrey.

I’m never glad that someone gets hurt, so that isn’t my point. But an already injury-prone, not particularly robust running back who you make the centerpiece of your offense because you think you can get by with JAGs at QB was always such an incandescently ridiculous gamble that it’s immensely satisfying to see it blow up in Lynch’s face.

Of course, it almost worked last year, which would have been insufferable. But no one needs to tell a Packers fan what almost gets you. Enjoy the offseason, San Francisco. Good riddance.

I'm enjoying the 49ers struggles, but...I can't put that on CMac(and I'm not sure why there was a lot of hubris in the move). I thought that was a great move for them. He played every game the last two years, was a stud for them...this year he's been hurt. 

The real issue is that team has been decimated by injuries.

HOF-LT in Williams was out
AP(and I'd say a DE on a HOF trajectory) in Bosa-out. 
CB-The guy they just gave 90M in Lenoir was out
WR#1 Ayiuk-Season ender
PB DT-Javon Hargrave(18 sacks last 2 years) season-ending injury

They were missing a starting OG, missing 2 other starters on the DL. 
Purdy has missed time, Kittle, Deebo. Ward who was a 2nd team AP last year at CB. 

Plus, they're 52M under the cap and they'll roll a ton over into next year. They have to extend Purdy(and this year may make that cheaper)...but I don't think bringing in CMac was the problem at all. It's like Philly bringing in Barkley, but CMac was younger and Barkley got more than CMac.

 

They would have been fine if you have Ayiuk, Deebo, Jennings and then their 1st rd pick not getting shot in the chest to start the year on IR, Kittle, Trent at LT, I think they'd still be an elite offense(but then they're missing 4-5 elite defensive players). 

 

It is always nice to see SF struggling though...whatever the reason. 

[BrewerFan]

10 hours ago, Recovering Chicagoan said:

Eagles look to be a bit stronger than the Lions right now.

Yeah, I agree. Those two are the top two teams, but the way the Eagles rookie CBs are playing...plus Jevon Carter and speed on the edges and they have the advantage. 

Both teams have dominant OLs who can wear you down, big playmakers. But Detroit lost so much with the Hutchinson injury. 

The Packers have a chance to run the table, but they'll need Love playing closer to 2nd half of last year, Wicks to come up with big catches that keep the chains moving, but more importantly, they need that DL to stake a blue pill and stiffen up when playing those teams in particular. The best RT in the NFL is on Detroit(and a well-rounded and elite OL) and Phlily has the best run game with Hurts and Barkley. 

 

I think the Packers can turn it up, but where they've been...it's not good enough. Getting Lloyd back from injury to add a little more versatility in the run game, Musgrave and Kraft make a really versatile TE duo. The bruiser and the guy who stretches the field down the seam. But more than anyone, Jaire needs to be healthy if they're going to play press man.

But they're mostly healthy and just need to clean some things up and I think the NFC is open for a team to get hot and beat anyone. I don't think either of these teams are as good as the 49ers last year. 

 

It'll come down to the LOS. Can Walker, Myers(both ranked 2nd last at their position per PFF) and then the DL with a history of playing big late. Gonna be a fun stretch run. 

[Fear The Chorizo]

3 hours ago, BrewerFan said:

I'm enjoying the 49ers struggles, but...I can't put that on CMac(and I'm not sure why there was a lot of hubris in the move). I thought that was a great move for them. He played every game the last two years, was a stud for them...this year he's been hurt. 

The real issue is that team has been decimated by injuries.

HOF-LT in Williams was out
AP(and I'd say a DE on a HOF trajectory) in Bosa-out. 
CB-The guy they just gave 90M in Lenoir was out
WR#1 Ayiuk-Season ender
PB DT-Javon Hargrave(18 sacks last 2 years) season-ending injury

They were missing a starting OG, missing 2 other starters on the DL. 
Purdy has missed time, Kittle, Deebo. Ward who was a 2nd team AP last year at CB. 

Plus, they're 52M under the cap and they'll roll a ton over into next year. They have to extend Purdy(and this year may make that cheaper)...but I don't think bringing in CMac was the problem at all. It's like Philly bringing in Barkley, but CMac was younger and Barkley got more than CMac.

 

They would have been fine if you have Ayiuk, Deebo, Jennings and then their 1st rd pick not getting shot in the chest to start the year on IR, Kittle, Trent at LT, I think they'd still be an elite offense(but then they're missing 4-5 elite defensive players). 

 

It is always nice to see SF struggling though...whatever the reason. 

Older players, even if Uber talented, eventually wear down and break...and they are typically expensive, too.

That is the 49ers in 2024....long in the tooth, and still without a qb on a longterm contract they can build around.