Random 2024 Transaction Ideas Not Worth Individual Threads

[nate82]

I wonder if the White Sox would be open to trading Luis Robert once he returns from his injury.  The White Sox were not willing to take offers this off season or last year during the deadline.  But I wonder if they would be more willing to move him this deadline if they continue to play like they have. 

I don't think the White Sox would be interested in Frelick, Wiemer or Mitchell and the only prospect the Brewers have that comes close to his value would be Chourio and I don't see the Brewers doing that trade.  I think the White Sox would want Misio, Wilken and another prospect or two for Robert.  I would be tempted to do that trade as Robert would be a clear upgrade in either CF or RF depending on where you want to play Chourio.  Robert as the #3 or #4 hitter would allow the team to move Adames and Hoskins down the batting order. 

A lineup consisting of the below wouldn't be all that bad and probably increases the Brewers chances for the next couple of years in the playoffs.  Losing Misio and Wilken would hurt especially Misio since the Brewers don't have many impact pitching right now. 

1. Yelich

2. Contreras

3. Robert

4. Hoskins

5. Adames

6. Ortiz

7. Bauers

8. Turang

9. Chourio

 

I don't think the White Sox would do this and it would cost a bit more than Misio, Wilken plus more, but it is fun to speculate and dream on Robert being in the Brewers lineup.

 

[jay87shot]

I am sure we would have to pay peak value for a guy like Robert, so probably something similar to what we gave up for Yeli. 1 high end prospect, 2 borderline top 100 pieces, and a mid-level 3rd piece. 

That would be like Black/Mis, Frelick/Mitchell/Weimer, Gasser/CarRod/Lara, and like Blalock. So like Black, Frelick, Gasser, and Blalock would be to much but Black, Weimer, CarRod, and Blalock I would consider

I like Robert a lot but his injury problems and lower obp/higher k rates make a trade a ginormous risk. If we are giving up that end of capital I guess I would rather go after Isaac Paredas, Christian Javier, Jesus Luzardo, or other top end talent that might end up available come July

[TURBO]

I don't think Robert has even come close to his hype.  Add in the fact he is injury prone, and what is the real benefit to adding him if it costs us the farm.

If it were a reasonable ask, ok, I'd listen, but to be honest, I'm just not that interested in guys who are hurt a lot to add to our Yelich injury issues.

 

[jay87shot]

Would the Pirates be interested in trading Bryan Reynolds? He makes 15 million a year and it could be a good opportunity to get a good bat at a discount. Obviously his defense doesn't rate great (maybe 1st base). We could give them Ashby back to negate some salary (no actual trade value). 

Reynolds for Weimer, Ashby, Blalock, and one of our younger 15-25 ranked IF prospects. 

The Pirates would shed salary and have 4 young talents to show for it. We would get a solid middle of the order bat that would get a big upgrade in ballparks. 

I would then trade Perkins to KC for the best prospect we could get maybe OF Gavin Cross.

Last trade Hoby Milner to Texas for Emiliano Teodo 

Lastly trade for Justin Verlander  if they eat most of the contracts maybe CarRod and 2nd prospect (more/less depending on how much $)

1)Turang 2)Contreras 3)Yeli 4)Willy 5) B Reynolds 6)Rhys 7)Frelick/Mitchell 8)Ortiz 9)Chourio

Peralta, Verlander, Rea, Gasser, Wilson/Ross

Devin, Payamps, Hudson, Megill, Peguero, Koenig, Wilson/Ross, Uribe/Misi

Not to bad

Obviously those trades probably aren't the most logical. I do like a trade deadline where we trade away some shorter term/blocked pieces. While adding some big talent that can compete this season.

[jay87shot]

With Mitchell and Weimer getting healthy and no one after Yeli playing great what should our plan be? 

Yeli, Mitchell, Sal, Chourio, Weimer in AAA, Perkins?. Perkins is a perfect 4th OF but I doubt we send Sal, Chourio, or Mitchell to AAA and there just aren't enough abs for Perk to be a 5th OF especially with 3 lefties and him hitting .143 as a RH batter. 

I brought it up once before but the Royals OF is trash and we could probably get a solid pitcher from them for Perk (or Mitchel/Weimer)

Perkins for P Chandler Champlain (#11 on mlb.com) and a lotto style prospect could help. Maybe Perkins and Vieria/Koenig for Kurdna or Mozzicaito.

[sveumrules]

1 hour ago, jay87shot said:

With Mitchell and Weimer getting healthy and no one after Yeli playing great what should our plan be? 

On the one hand - Yeli has missed half the season so far, Mitchell has missed the whole season, Chourio/Sal/Perkins have struggled with the bats, Wiemer regressed and got hurt, Jake Bauers has played nine games in the OF - sounds pretty dire on the surface.

On the other hand - their 105 wRC+ as a group is 9th in MLB among OF, their +2.9 BsR is 3rd and their +2 OAA is tied for 8th - add it all up and the Brewers 2.2 OF WAR comes in 9th despite issues with health and/or productivity at the plate pretty much across the board.

My guess right now would be that Perkins gets optioned when Mitchell is ready to come back so the Brewers can maintain their depth as odds are Blake will be needed subsequently for some reason or another.

If Garrett stays healthy through the end of the season and/or Sal & Jackson show progress at the plate I could see an OF (likely Perkins) moved in the offseason, but things are probably still too tenuous currently to make a deal in season.

[brewmann04]

Not worried about the offense it the lack of the starters that the major concern 

[Ro Mueller]

2 hours ago, jay87shot said:

With Mitchell and Weimer getting healthy and no one after Yeli playing great what should our plan be? 

Yeli, Mitchell, Sal, Chourio, Weimer in AAA, Perkins?. Perkins is a perfect 4th OF but I doubt we send Sal, Chourio, or Mitchell to AAA and there just aren't enough abs for Perk to be a 5th OF especially with 3 lefties and him hitting .143 as a RH batter. 

I brought it up once before but the Royals OF is trash and we could probably get a solid pitcher from them for Perk (or Mitchel/Weimer)

Perkins for P Chandler Champlain (#11 on mlb.com) and a lotto style prospect could help. Maybe Perkins and Vieria/Koenig for Kurdna or Mozzicaito.

Arnold may want Mitchell and Wiemer to spend significant time in AAA for service time manipulation purposes. We'll see though.

[jay87shot]

The Blue Jays seem to be the weak link in the AL East, they have lots of interesting options Vladdy Jr (1.5 years of controls), Justin Turner (not playing well as of now), Kikuchi (.5 years), Berrios (signed through 28 19mill-ish), Bassitt/Gausman (not pitching great, 1.5, 2.5 years respectively), Trevor Richards/Yimi Garcia (.5 years)    

There could be some other guys like Bichette, Varsho, Springer who could be of interest but aren't good fits.

Berrios is a guy I would consider sending a big package for, he has been relatively healthy and efective at 19 million a year we could probably likely fit him in salary wise. Would anyone be willing to give up say Black, Lara, Wichrowsi, Henderson for him? I do feel like that seems like a lot for a # 2/3 30 year old. Kikuchi may make more sense but for the 1/2 year I wouldn't want to give up anything crazy maybe Henderson/Blalock and Clarke/Ernesto Martinez which probably isn't enough given what similar pitchers got last year.

[sveumrules]

37 minutes ago, jay87shot said:

Berrios is a guy I would consider sending a big package for, he has been relatively healthy and efective at 19 million a year we could probably likely fit him in salary wise. Would anyone be willing to give up say Black, Lara, Wichrowsi, Henderson for him?

Cots has Berrios down at 4/84 remaining after this year - $18M each in 25/26 then $24M each in 27/28.

There’s no way I’d want to tie up that much payroll space (and give up a big prospect outlay) for a guy who is sporting a 4.87 xERA and 4.63 FIP under the hood of his 2.98 ERA to start the season and as recently as 2022 looked completely cooked at 5.23 ERA / 5.11 xERA / 4.55 FIP,

[duewizard]

What do we think of Garret Crochet? Really stong numbers and peripherals so far. Has had TJ in the past but could he be worth it?

I've slowly come around with the idea of trading Quero. Contreras is the best player on the team and we will control him until 2027. Quero should be up at some point during 2025 and I don't know if having him stuck as a backup guy for 2 1/2+ years is the best way to use him, if he can even return healthy from injury. I don't know my mind is not set on this but a top-100 catcher with a solid hit tool + one or two guys can get us someone good. Thoughts?

[brewers888]

24 minutes ago, duewizard said:

What do we think of Garret Crochet? Really stong numbers and peripherals so far. Has had TJ in the past but could he be worth it?

I've slowly come around with the idea of trading Quero. Contreras is the best player on the team and we will control him until 2027. Quero should be up at some point during 2025 and I don't know if having him stuck as a backup guy for 2 1/2+ years is the best way to use him, if he can even return healthy from injury. I don't know my mind is not set on this but a top-100 catcher with a solid hit tool + one or two guys can get us someone good. Thoughts?

Very good pitcher but the cost to acquire him is going to be too expensive in terms of what I would be willing to trade. Think somewhere along the lines of Quero, Black, and Mis which is not something I would be willing to do and to be honest that might not even be enough. 

[sveumrules]

27 minutes ago, duewizard said:

What do we think of Garret Crochet? Really stong numbers and peripherals so far. Has had TJ in the past but could he be worth it?

Crochet definitely has the kind of stuff to start a playoff game. I’d guess the Sox will be asking for something like a Cease package with Garrett having more team control left, but less of a track record.

And track record is the main issue, his IP totals going back to college are…

2018 (63.2 IP)
2019 (65.0 IP)
2020 (9.1 IP)
2021 (54.1 IP)
2022 (0.0 IP)
2023 (25.0 IP)
2024 (57.2 IP already)

It’d probably be irresponsible to throw him much more than 100 IP this year given his past workloads, and you’d likely still need to limit him to around 140-150 IP next year to build him up gradually towards hopefully handling a full 30 GS/180 IP for his final two seasons before FA.

[duewizard]

2 hours ago, sveumrules said:

Crochet definitely has the kind of stuff to start a playoff game. I’d guess the Sox will be asking for something like a Cease package with Garrett having more team control left, but less of a track record.

And track record is the main issue, his IP totals going back to college are…

2018 (63.2 IP)
2019 (65.0 IP)
2020 (9.1 IP)
2021 (54.1 IP)
2022 (0.0 IP)
2023 (25.0 IP)
2024 (57.2 IP already)

It’d probably be irresponsible to throw him much more than 100 IP this year given his past workloads, and you’d likely still need to limit him to around 140-150 IP next year to build him up gradually towards hopefully handling a full 30 GS/180 IP for his final two seasons before FA.

Yeah the innings and injury history is what I don't love. And would be too expensive but its a fun name to think about. The stuff is nasty

[Lloyd330]

 

Blind Resume - Has one yr left after this year for under $10 mil - early 30's

What type of prospect is this player worth

[Jim French Stepstool]

2 hours ago, duewizard said:

What do we think of Garret Crochet? Really stong numbers and peripherals so far. Has had TJ in the past but could he be worth it?

I've slowly come around with the idea of trading Quero. Contreras is the best player on the team and we will control him until 2027. Quero should be up at some point during 2025 and I don't know if having him stuck as a backup guy for 2 1/2+ years is the best way to use him, if he can even return healthy from injury. I don't know my mind is not set on this but a top-100 catcher with a solid hit tool + one or two guys can get us someone good. Thoughts?

IF he bounces back from the injury he has the type of elite defensive skills that could make him a centerpiece of a deal, plus the hit tool is an added bonus. Of course, if all those things happen & they're confident he could step in by, say, '26 you'd have the potential to get an even more massive haul for 2 years of Contreras. Right now I'm just hoping Quero comes back strong because if he does they're holding some attractive cards at a premium position.

 

[Playing Catch]

58 minutes ago, Lloyd330 said:

 

Blind Resume - Has one yr left after this year for under $10 mil - early 30's

What type of prospect is this player worth

Hmmm... Brent Suter?

Seems like an average soft-tossing control artist. Looks like his FB plays up. I like those players on this Brewers team. Maybe one of our Latin IFers? Areinamo?

[Lloyd330]

7 minutes ago, Playing Catch said:

Hmmm... Brent Suter?

Seems like an average soft-tossing control artist. Looks like his FB plays up. I like those players on this Brewers team. Maybe one of our Latin IFers? Areinamo?

Fedde

[jay87shot]

Blind resume said 93 mph average, suter is throwing like 87. 

Fedde is a better option than Crochet based on value. I would love Crochet but wouldnt give up top prospects maybe CarRod, EBJ, and Weimer which is nice value but no giant haul since none of those guys are playing well. Mike Clevinger could be an option, he only has 11 innings in so far.

Would Blake Snell or Jordan Montgomery be to big of a risk with player option and neither pitching great. 

[Scooterfletcher]

I think we go farm til deadline.  Wilson appears to give five good innings.  See what Blalock can do for a few starts and Myers in a pinch too.  At the deadline, maybe trade an OF for a starting type.

[jay87shot]

7 hours ago, Scooterfletcher said:

I think we go farm til deadline.  Wilson appears to give five good innings.  See what Blalock can do for a few starts and Myers in a pinch too.  At the deadline, maybe trade an OF for a starting type.

In all likelihood yes, there are always going to be opportunities small moves here and there. I still think that when Mitchell comes back from his injury there is a good chance we trade an OF if someone will give us decent value for Perkins or Weimer (Royals, Guardians).

[jay87shot]

After Paredes looked so good today what is our plan for the bullpen when everyone gets healthy. I think if we are serious about being a contender we need to add a top of the rotation arm. By my count we could have 16 relievers by the deadline. Say our rotation is Peralta, trade addition, Rae, Gasser, Wilson that leaves alot of options.

Devin, Megill, Hudson. Payamps, Peguero, Milner, Koenig, Hall, Junis, Bauk, Paredes, Uribe, Clarke, Misi, Ross, Myers that doesn't count guys like Thompson, Zastrzny, CarRod and others in AAA who could be options.

That is to many arms to hide in AAA or even keep on the 40 man. I have brought up trading Hoby based on 1.5 years of control and the value of his track record. Joel Payamps might be my second trade option, if he put in a couple solid weeks and get the old era down a bit he should have some value. Maybe as a second or 3rd piece in a deal for a good controllable pitcher Uribe would make sense. Obviously Devin will have a good market if he puts together a couple good weeks before the deadline as well.

Who would be they top 3 relievers you would trade that could get us something decent back.

[nate82]

23 hours ago, jay87shot said:

Who would be they top 3 relievers you would trade that could get us something decent back.

Megill probably has the most value beyond Hudson maybe.  I think you will get AAAA, Rookie or DSL players for anyone else in the bullpen. 

[brewmann04]

you are not trading ant of these relievers at this point.

[jay87shot]

3 hours ago, brewmann04 said:

you are not trading ant of these relievers at this point.

Within the next month we will have to lose couple guys. There just aren't enough 26 man or 40 man spots. 

 

3 hours ago, nate82 said:

Megill probably has the most value beyond Hudson maybe.  I think you will get AAAA, Rookie or DSL players for anyone else in the bullpen. 

Hoby, Peguero, Payamps, should all get a decent prospect not huge but top 15-20, maybe a 2nd decent piece. Uribe will have value maybe in the range of a top 15 prospect. Devin will easily rebuild his value up if he can look good for 10 games or so. Megill and Hudson probably have big value but they are not the guys to trade since they will be dirt cheap the next 3/4 years.

I guess my point in saying we should trade say Payamps and Hoby is that I would rather lean on our management/development. Keep say Bauk, Paredes, Clarke and get prospects for Hoby and Payamps to me that is sustainable. 

Say next month we trade Payamps to Texas for Dane Acker and like a lotto

Then Hoby to the Yankees for Ben Rice

We get a good arm and upside bat and still have Devin, Megill, Hudson, Peguero, Koenig, Paredes, Uribe, Hall, Clarke, Bauk, Zas, Ross/Myers and maybe Misi, Thompson, CarRod. We still have depth and high end arms and save money towards next year.