Brewers (Gasser) vs Marlins (Rogers): 5/21/24, 5:40pm

[liveforoctober]

1 minute ago, edfunderburk said:

The Brewers are winning games in spite of Murphy - certainly not because of him 

I’m confident that you can see this as well 

Murphy is a 🤡

Hey you do you man. Some people love to live in misery and that's fine. I choose to be positive. We both can be successful doing it our own way. Best of luck to you.

[tmwiese55]

9 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

Thanks Dad … we need you to keep these reminders coming - otherwise we might express our opinions on this forum rather than compliment every decision good or bad

Quality response.  So I can't express my opinion that overreacting game by game is a bad way to follow a baseball team over 162 games?   3 weeks ago, the manager was a moron for playing Bauers. Now he's a moron for sitting Bauers.   He's a moron for playing/sitting all these guys today and he turned out correct over the armchairing done in this one. 

But sure, continue to bash him for stuff and then when he turns out correct say nothing like happened here.  Wait for those great hindsight 20/20 times.   Or being baseball fans for years we could just chill and know 'baseball' happens. People have sit out games, random jabronis have good games and hits at certain times, good players have crap games, go with the ups and downs, crap happens. 

In addition, I literally no where said to compliment every decision.

[edfunderburk]

5 minutes ago, bensheeps said:

They're the only ones we could beat today.  Enjoy the win.  At least one more day without the Earth ending.

Yes - notice that I clapped 👏

I’m glad we won today in the only game we played

I’ve never heard of the earth ending - Can you enlighten us?

[edfunderburk]

1 minute ago, tmwiese55 said:

Quality response.  So I can't express my opinion that overreacting game by game is a bad way to follow a baseball team over 162 games?   3 weeks ago, the manager was a moron for playing Bauers. Now he's a moron for sitting Bauers.   He's a moron for playing/sitting all these guys today and he turned out correct over the armchairing done in this one. 

But sure, continue to bash him for stuff and then when he turns out correct say nothing like happened here.  Wait for those great hindsight 20/20 times.   Or being baseball fans for years we could just chill and know 'baseball' happens. People have sit out games, random jabronis have good games and hits at certain times, good players have crap games, go with the ups and downs, crap happens. 

In addition, I literally no where said to compliment every decision.

You be you 

I don’t think it is appropriate to instruct other forum posters when you have a different view 

That’s what I was responding to 

 

[tmwiese55]

37 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

I never understood why we seemed so intent to rush him. It's not like he destroyed AAA last year and just had nothing left to develop there. 

I would guess if he hadn't signed the long-term deal where there would still be reason to play the service time game, he'd still be in Nashville.

It wouldn't even be paying the service time game. He's clearly not ready for MLB right now.   Still, it could be the best way to 'develop' him and it pays off later, as we've seen it work out with others. Or 2months down there then up might have been best.  Still, with all the injuries he probably wouldn't have been able to stay down long so its probably close to wash

[tmwiese55]

5 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

You be you 

I don’t think it is appropriate to instruct other forum posters when you have a different view 

That’s what I was responding to 

 

You are doing exactly that with this whole conversation.   

I didn't instruct anyone with a different view.  I pointed out that that a bunch of stuff he was bashed for he ended up being right on and said to try to remember that before freaking out., long long season. That's it, ther'es no "view" there.    Not pointed at anyone in particular.   You then attack directly at me and insult me while telling me what is appropriate. 

[wiguy94]

Honestly feels like one we stole with Gasser having to go 6 innings to save the pen despite not having his best stuff.

[Austin Tatious]

Man, Trevor Rogers has really fallen off a cliff.  He seemed to be promising at one point.  

[edfunderburk]

2 minutes ago, tmwiese55 said:

You are doing exactly that with this whole conversation.   

I pointed out that that a bunch of stuff he was bashed for he ended up being right on and said to try to remember that before freaking out..  That's it.    Not pointed at anyone in particular.   You then attack directly at me and insult me while telling me what is appropriate. 

Whatever, dude 

Whether your comment was to me or the entire forum - who are you to tell me or us to chill? 

I disagree with what you wrote & what you suggest I did in response

Enjoy your evening … if you want to do so - but I don’t want to instruct you 

 

[Brian]

Vinny Rottino, every Brewer win he says, "arguably the best win of the year." 

[SomewhereInTime]

21 minutes ago, folly412 said:

First win for Myers.  17 innings in four starts couldn't crack one, but one solid inning of relief can!

It's often overlooked, but a guy coming in out of the bullpen and holding a deficit is important.  Glad they replaced Vieira.

[tmwiese55]

14 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

Whatever, dude 

Whether your comment was to me or the entire forum - who are you to tell me or us to chill? 

I disagree with what you wrote & what you suggest I did in response

Enjoy your evening … if you want to do so - but I don’t want to instruct you 

 

Who are you to tell me that my opinion is wrong, which you did?   Essentially you're saying that you can, but I can't. 

Sorry for taking the massively controversial stance to also remember all the times when the manager is right and oneself is wrong along with all the times he's wrong and you're right while forming an opinion on him.  It's ok to be wrong, I am, the manager is, it happens all the time when there isn't 20/20 hindsight. 

[SomewhereInTime]

10 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

Honestly feels like one we stole with Gasser having to go 6 innings to save the pen despite not having his best stuff.

He didn't strike anyone out but it really was a lot of bad luck and bad defense behind him.

[yourout]

10 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

Honestly feels like one we stole with Gasser having to go 6 innings to save the pen despite not having his best stuff.

Are we sure that's not his best stuff?

Reminds me of Small.

[yfinn6]

Just now, yourout said:

Are we sure that's not his best stuff?

Reminds me of Small.

Really? I don't see it that at all. 

[wiguy94]

1 minute ago, yourout said:

Are we sure that's not his best stuff?

Reminds me of Small.

I mean yeah his velo was down about 1.5 mph over ST and AAA this year.

[edfunderburk]

3 minutes ago, tmwiese55 said:

Who are you to tell me that my opinion is wrong, which you did?   Essentially you're saying that you can, but I can't. 

Sorry for taking the massively controversial stance to also remember all the times when the manager is right and oneself is wrong along with all the times he's wrong and you're right.  It's ok to be wrong, I am, the manager is, it happens all the time when there isn't 20/20 hindsight. 

Please take a minute to re-read our exchange

I’m not saying your opinion is wrong

I’m suggesting that I don’t believe it is appropriate to instruct forum posters 

I understand that I’m doing so in my response to you - so block me

I can promise you it was never my intention to exchange comments with you 

I have no idea who you are - what you do - where you are from … I just know that it is rare on this forum for posts to be instructive 

You may be the kindest, most generous, friendly person in this forum - or you could be a complete jerk … either way - your suggestion to chill won’t influence what I post

Glad we won tonight 

I’m still not a Murphy fan

I seldom dislike a player or coach 

I don’t recall commenting negatively about Counsell in the 9 years he managed Milwaukee 

I’ve liked most of their managers in the last 50 years - Macha & Murphy being the exception 

Win or lose - I’m a devoted fan of the Brewers

I imagine we have at least that one thing in common 

 

[BruisedCrew]

Hes off to a pretty good start, but I I think the jury (or at least my opinion) is still out on Gasser. 

He has had 3 starts against 3 of the weakest scoring teams in the NL and has been given quick leads every time out. 
 

 

[brewmann04]

Just really glad they won tonight 

[tmwiese55]

31 minutes ago, edfunderburk said:

Please take a minute to re-read our exchange

I’m not saying your opinion is wrong

I’m suggesting that I don’t believe it is appropriate to instruct forum posters 

I understand that I’m doing so in my response to you - so block me

I can promise you it was never my intention to exchange comments with you 

I have no idea who you are - what you do - where you are from … I just know that it is rare on this forum for posts to be instructive 

You may be the kindest, most generous, friendly person in this forum - or you could be a complete jerk … either way - your suggestion to chill won’t influence what I post

Glad we won tonight 

I’m still not a Murphy fan

I seldom dislike a player or coach 

I don’t recall commenting negatively about Counsell in the 9 years he managed Milwaukee 

I’ve liked most of their managers in the last 50 years - Macha & Murphy being the exception 

Win or lose - I’m a devoted fan of the Brewers

I imagine we have at least that one thing in common 

 

My so called 'instruction" was just also remember stuff they're right about and in general that its a long season so its usually better to take the up and downs in stride.   These are far from controversial things or demeaning/attacking type things, and certainly not telling people their opinions are invalid or not to say them. Just trying to give some tips on processing a long season.  Its really no different than someone correcting someone else with something like "actually (remember) this person's OPS vs RHP is xyx".     

You didn't say my opinion was wrong, you said I shouldn't say it though.   As you said, you're instructing me on not instructing.  It was definitely your intent to exchange comments as you jumped into something not directed at you or confrontational to anyone in in any way and led off with insults and namecalling.    Really this all comes down to you overreacted and got defensive because I pointed out the guy was right about a bunch of stuff today which apparently you thought he was wrong about, and have continued to double down.   

But yea, as you said you're a devoted fan and into it which is obviously a good thing and in common.  And hopefully you and everyone can enjoy the season.  Hopefully our first place team somehow keeps it up with all the injuries and this ragtag pitching staff and so many replacement level or AAA type hitters they're being forced to play and shuffle through.  I know this roster has no shot at a WS but hopefully can be entertained all summer. 

[RobertCrawley]

59 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

Hes off to a pretty good start, but I I think the jury (or at least my opinion) is still out on Gasser. 

He has had 3 starts against 3 of the weakest scoring teams in the NL and has been given quick leads every time out. 
 

 

If he can just keep us in games, I'm happy at this point.

[wallus]

How would some of you react if we weren't in first place.... yikes

[rickh150]

Murphy could be NL manager of the year up to this point…no idea why the disapproval. Basically winning with half of a rotation and a boatload of injuries. And somehow we have (or recently had) the most 7 plus run games in baseball with the youngest position starters in baseball.

Anyone overly critical of Murphy has an unrealistically high standard. Criticize moves and such is normal, but calling for his removal? Now? Looney tunes.

 

[edfunderburk]

28 minutes ago, rickh150 said:

Murphy could be NL manager of the year up to this point…no idea why the disapproval. Basically winning with half of a rotation and a boatload of injuries. And somehow we have (or recently had) the most 7 plus run games in baseball with the youngest position starters in baseball.

Anyone overly critical of Murphy has an unrealistically high standard. Criticize moves and such is normal, but calling for his removal? Now? Looney tunes.

 

Who called for his removal now?

Someone else may have but I didn’t.

In last night’s game thread, I suggested he not be removed in season. I shared my opinion that he is no a good in game decision maker. I said that I was disappointed when he was hired & that hasn’t changed. 

I also said that I hope he is our manager for only one year.

[duewizard]

2 hours ago, yourout said:

Are we sure that's not his best stuff?

Reminds me of Small.

Gasser led the International League in strikeouts and was the league's pitcher of the year.