Freddy Peralta

[wallus]

Assuming that the Brewers continue to play around .500 ball, it is probably time to consider selling and re-tooling for 2026.

While there are obvious candidates to be traded (Cortes, Quintana, Civale, Hoskins and Payamps), Freddy is a different situation. Right now, he is having a career year. I know some have mentioned extending him but I would rather not extend a pitcher with his frame and age. This season might be the time to extract the most value. One team that isn't afraid to deal top prospects and could fit in well with would be the Padres. They also have budgetary concerns so Peralta's modest contract would be incredibly enticing.

Brewers Trade: Peralta (BTV 45.5)

Padres Trade: De Vries (BTV 44.9)

Yes, De Vries is a highly rated prospect that do not often get traded these days but he is still in A ball. Most teams likely wouldn't consider something like this but the Padres have continually shown they will be aggressive and need to make a move to compete with the Dodgers and Giants. For the Brewers, having an infield of Made, Pena and De Vries all developing together would be incredible for the future. I'm only trading Peralta this season if you can get someone with this kind of upside.

[wiguy94]

If the Brewers are sub .500 at the deadline I'm hoping they actually sell.

For sure try to sell - Hoskins, Bauers, Quintana, Alexander, Cortes, Civale, Payamps, Megill, Mears, Koenig

Listen to offers - Peralta, Contreras

What does the player want - Woodruff

[jay87shot]

I think there will be an option to sell and possible buy if the right young pieces are available.

If Cortes, Civale, Quintana, or Alexander have any value they can go. If they market for relievers is high Megill has 2 years so dealing him for a big package would make sense. If anyone wants to overpay for another reliever that would be fine.

If Freddy got us a top 50 prospect and a couple other solid pieces that would be fine with me (if under .500). I kind of like a Dodgers package of Alex Freeland, Eduardo Quintero, and 1 or 2 of Emmett Sheehan/River Ryan/Bobby Miller/Nick Frasso/Kyle Hurt/Jackson Ferris. However Dodgers prospects haven't panned out well. I would want an mlb ready left side of the infield IF and a high upside pitcher. 

The Mets for Jett Williams, Jonah Tong, and other pieces

Red Sox for Marcelo Mayer (maybe we give them something extra)

Rangers for Walcott

Probably a half dozen other teams would be interested.

I wonder if the Nationals would look to trade CJ Abrams, I know they were upset with him and suspended him the last week of last year. He is cheap and conrolable so he would be very expensive but if there is young talent like him available I could see us trying to add a star and still selling vets. Maybe the O's or Rays will be willing to sell an IF. 

 

[Brewer77]

The Padres have been aggressive beyond belief, but there’s no chance in hell they’d entertain that deal. The Brewers would have to give up another legitimate piece or two for a top 10 prospect 

[wallus]

2 hours ago, Brewer77 said:

The Padres have been aggressive beyond belief, but there’s no chance in hell they’d entertain that deal. The Brewers would have to give up another legitimate piece or two for a top 10 prospect 

 

BTV (which I know isn't the Bible) has it as a slight overpay for the Brewers so it's probably in the ballpark for an aggressive team

[Brewer77]

3 minutes ago, wallus said:

BTV (which I know isn't the Bible) has it as a slight overpay for the Brewers so it's probably in the ballpark for an aggressive team

I understand that, but still don’t think it’s in the ballpark in practice. De Vries is a switch hitting shortstop lighting up A+ at 18 years old. He’s up to #3 on MLB Pipeline. The Padres are being aggressive with him and treating him like a future star. That’s not the caliber of player you trade for a year and a half of a #2 starter. 

[wallus]

47 minutes ago, Brewer77 said:

I understand that, but still don’t think it’s in the ballpark in practice. De Vries is a switch hitting shortstop lighting up A+ at 18 years old. He’s up to #3 on MLB Pipeline. The Padres are being aggressive with him and treating him like a future star. That’s not the caliber of player you trade for a year and a half of a #2 starter. 

Calling Freddy a #2 starter is dismissing the year he is having and the changes he's made. Also, you get two playoff runs with an underpaid Peralta plus at worst a comp pick. 

[Brewer77]

50 minutes ago, wallus said:

Calling Freddy a #2 starter is dismissing the year he is having and the changes he's made. Also, you get two playoff runs with an underpaid Peralta plus at worst a comp pick. 

Freddy is throwing the ball well now, but a #2 starter is the level he has pitched to most of his career and how the industry is likely to view him in a trade

I think the Brewers could get a very nice trade package for Freddy. As you have pointed out, there’s added value in his cost and control - I wouldn’t be surprised if they were able to get a couple top 100 guys. But  there’s a pretty steep curve in prospect value at the top of the rankings and I don’t think Freddy on his own is enough to command the player that has a legitimate chance at being the top prospect in baseball by the end of the season

[umphrey]

I feel like trading Freddy is the only path to fixing the infield, and this team is going to be broken as long as the infield is broken, but we can get by without Freddy. 

[Ro Mueller]

What’s our threshold? 5+ games below .500 and 10+ games behind the Cubs on July 30?

[Madhawk23]

Any chance the Dodgers would be interested in Freddy? And if so….would Zayir Hope be off the table?

[wiguy94]

10 minutes ago, Madhawk23 said:

Any chance the Dodgers would be interested in Freddy? And if so….would Zayir Hope be off the table?

If we were to trade Freddy to the Dodgers at the deadline, I'd imagine the ask for the Brewers starts with one of Hope/De Paula. Do the Dodgers do that? I think probably a bit unlikely though if they love Freddy you never know.

[Madhawk23]

9 hours ago, wiguy94 said:

If we were to trade Freddy to the Dodgers at the deadline, I'd imagine the ask for the Brewers starts with one of Hope/De Paula. Do the Dodgers do that? I think probably a bit unlikely though if they love Freddy you never know.

Agreed, and I'd probably throw Freeland into that mix as well.....although I think I'd prefer to see us get either Hope/De Paula as the headliner coming back as I think we've got a bigger organizational need in the OF than we do in the IF (even though you wouldn't think that just looking at the MLB club right now).  

[Playing Catch]

20 hours ago, Ro Mueller said:

What’s our threshold? 5+ games below .500 and 10+ games behind the Cubs on July 30?

This is the question.

For me, anything less than .500 puts the Brewers in sell-mode this season, due to the strength of the league. Now of course, if the Brewers are .500 and only 2 or 3 games back of first place in the division, that may be good enough to invest in players that can help this season. It kind of depends on how they look at that point.

[TURBO]

I hope it's decisive either way.

I hope it is obvious that we are in it, by that I mean tied, or at most 2-3 games back for the division.

If we can't be that close, then I hope we are 10 back to make it an easy decision.

[Frisbee Slider]

Has Mark A ever aggressively dismantled a team? We always have the perception of being competitive and usually are.

[jay87shot]

1 hour ago, Frisbee Slider said:

Has Mark A ever aggressively dismantled a team? We always have the perception of being competitive and usually are.

Between 2015 and 2016 we pretty muchly reshaped the team, over 2 years it wasn't really just a full dismantle but a big overhaul. We traded out LuCroy Jeffress, Gomez, Fiera Aram, Gerarado Parra, Jonathon Broxton, and Tyler Thornburg between the two years. 

[jay87shot]

Here are some trade ideas for like late June if everyone come back healthy and is a least decent.

1)Aaron Civale to Atl for P Luke Sinnard, Sinnard was one of my sleeper picks for us last year, 6'8' quality stuff and having a good start in A ball. 

2)Nestor Cortes to Toronto for OF Victor Arias.  Toronto needs pitching help, we get a 21 year old OF who has some potential still even though he is lower end prospect.

3) Brandon Woodruff to the A's for OF Henry Bolte.  Woody probably has the biggest trade upside of the 1 year guys based on past front of the rotation status. Bolte would be a big time get if pitching values are really high.

4) Jose Quintana to Cubs for RP Jack Neely   I don't like trading with the Cubs but they need a pitcher and are familiar with Q. Neely hasn't been good but has the Trevor Megill size and arm that we could fix.

5) Trevor Megill to Philly for P Moises Chace, P Alex McFarlene, and 3B/2B Otto Kemp  I would do this today if it is a realistic offer. We get 2 really high upside arms and Kemp who could be given a shot at 3B today. The Phillies get a closer to fill in for the loss of Alvarado. Uribe, Mears, or Yoho fill into the closer role.

6) Freddy to Boston, OF Cedanne Rafeala to Houston, and 3B Cam Smith maybe an ancillary piece or two to Milwaukee.

We get a plug in 3B who has big upside and some experience, the Sox get a pitcher to pair with Crochet while opening up space for Anthony, and the Stros get a true young quality OF that fits better than Smith miscast in the OF. 

7) Rhys to Twins for P Simeon Woods-Richardson,  We get a good arm who has been up and down with the Twins the past couple years and the Twins get an offense boost to 1B or the DH spot

Just shooting ideas out there. I kind of really like the Megill to Philly idea for right now. We could probably fill in for Megill with Ashby and others coming back. For two 2 big arms and an upside 3B option I would be all for it.

[Madhawk23]

5 hours ago, jay87shot said:

Here are some trade ideas for like late June if everyone come back healthy and is a least decent.

1)Aaron Civale to Atl for P Luke Sinnard, Sinnard was one of my sleeper picks for us last year, 6'8' quality stuff and having a good start in A ball. 

2)Nestor Cortes to Toronto for OF Victor Arias.  Toronto needs pitching help, we get a 21 year old OF who has some potential still even though he is lower end prospect.

3) Brandon Woodruff to the A's for OF Henry Bolte.  Woody probably has the biggest trade upside of the 1 year guys based on past front of the rotation status. Bolte would be a big time get if pitching values are really high.

4) Jose Quintana to Cubs for RP Jack Neely   I don't like trading with the Cubs but they need a pitcher and are familiar with Q. Neely hasn't been good but has the Trevor Megill size and arm that we could fix.

5) Trevor Megill to Philly for P Moises Chace, P Alex McFarlene, and 3B/2B Otto Kemp  I would do this today if it is a realistic offer. We get 2 really high upside arms and Kemp who could be given a shot at 3B today. The Phillies get a closer to fill in for the loss of Alvarado. Uribe, Mears, or Yoho fill into the closer role.

6) Freddy to Boston, OF Cedanne Rafeala to Houston, and 3B Cam Smith maybe an ancillary piece or two to Milwaukee.

We get a plug in 3B who has big upside and some experience, the Sox get a pitcher to pair with Crochet while opening up space for Anthony, and the Stros get a true young quality OF that fits better than Smith miscast in the OF. 

7) Rhys to Twins for P Simeon Woods-Richardson,  We get a good arm who has been up and down with the Twins the past couple years and the Twins get an offense boost to 1B or the DH spot

Just shooting ideas out there. I kind of really like the Megill to Philly idea for right now. We could probably fill in for Megill with Ashby and others coming back. For two 2 big arms and an upside 3B option I would be all for it.

I'd be all in favor of trading Megill to the Phils ASAP.  However, it feels like the return is a bit light to me?  Correct me if I'm wrong, but we still have Megill for 2.5 years before he hits FA, so wouldn't there be a bit more trade value coming back?  

I know he's had a bit of a rough start at the plate (although, maybe heating up a bit?), but maybe we ask for Bohm as part of the package coming back?  Someone that could instantly help out our MLB roster, and a huge hole for us at 3B?  Maybe ask for Bohm and Chace?  

Thoughts? Or, am I over-valuing Megill too much and what we could get in return for 2.5 years of control?  

[jay87shot]

4 hours ago, Madhawk23 said:

I'd be all in favor of trading Megill to the Phils ASAP.  However, it feels like the return is a bit light to me?  Correct me if I'm wrong, but we still have Megill for 2.5 years before he hits FA, so wouldn't there be a bit more trade value coming back?  

 

 

I know he's had a bit of a rough start at the plate (although, maybe heating up a bit?), but maybe we ask for Bohm as part of the package coming back?  Someone that could instantly help out our MLB roster, and a huge hole for us at 3B?  Maybe ask for Bohm and Chace?  

Thoughts? Or, am I over-valuing Megill too much and what we could get in return for 2.5 years of control?  

Being early you are right we should get a little better deal than I originally proposed. Jason Adam got a top 100 prospect and 2 top 15 org. prospects. Megill would likely have similar value. I also learn led Chace just underwent Tommy John a couple days ago so him as a centerpiece no longer works. Bohm hasn't been good enough that he will get a 10 million dollar plus arby offered for next year. I am not a huge Eduardo Tait fan especially with Quero and Dinges in our org.. Painter, Miller, and Crawford are probably off limits. Mick Abel could be a centerpiece I suppose.

[Playing Catch]

I think I'm getting closer to the opinion that the Brewers should be sellers. I mean, if they go on a 20-5 run or something, they'll be what? Tied with the Cubs? At best?

I think this 2025 season is the remaining core of the apple the Brewers have been munching on since 2016 or so. But the Brewers have more apples. A bunch more.

2025 can be a reloading season. The Brewers can not only trade guys away for a few lottery tickets and empty roster spots, but they can use those spots to play some intriguing, but not as heralded prospects, like Ernesto Martinez Jr. or Mike Boeve. It wouldn't be that weird if a couple of those types turned out to have significant value for the big club. But in order for that to even be possible, they'd have to play.

I also am wondering if the Front Office has already had this conversation with Murph, and that's why he's been so cranky lately.

edit to add: 2026 fresh start under Weeks? That would be a similar story to how Counsell was originally hired.

(Ooops, thought this was the other thread)

[TURBO]

4 hours ago, jay87shot said:

Being early you are right we should get a little better deal than I originally proposed. Jason Adam got a top 100 prospect and 2 top 15 org. prospects. Megill would likely have similar value. I also learn led Chace just underwent Tommy John a couple days ago so him as a centerpiece no longer works. Bohm hasn't been good enough that he will get a 10 million dollar plus arby offered for next year. I am not a huge Eduardo Tait fan especially with Quero and Dinges in our org.. Painter, Miller, and Crawford are probably off limits. Mick Abel could be a centerpiece I suppose.

You aren't getting Abel as a centerpiece, in fact you aren't getting Abel as any piece for Megill.  C'mon, not a chance...

[Jopal78]

23 hours ago, jay87shot said:

Here are some trade ideas for like late June if everyone come back healthy and is a least decent.

1)Aaron Civale to Atl for P Luke Sinnard, Sinnard was one of my sleeper picks for us last year, 6'8' quality stuff and having a good start in A ball. 

2)Nestor Cortes to Toronto for OF Victor Arias.  Toronto needs pitching help, we get a 21 year old OF who has some potential still even though he is lower end prospect.

3) Brandon Woodruff to the A's for OF Henry Bolte.  Woody probably has the biggest trade upside of the 1 year guys based on past front of the rotation status. Bolte would be a big time get if pitching values are really high.

4) Jose Quintana to Cubs for RP Jack Neely   I don't like trading with the Cubs but they need a pitcher and are familiar with Q. Neely hasn't been good but has the Trevor Megill size and arm that we could fix.

5) Trevor Megill to Philly for P Moises Chace, P Alex McFarlene, and 3B/2B Otto Kemp  I would do this today if it is a realistic offer. We get 2 really high upside arms and Kemp who could be given a shot at 3B today. The Phillies get a closer to fill in for the loss of Alvarado. Uribe, Mears, or Yoho fill into the closer role.

6) Freddy to Boston, OF Cedanne Rafeala to Houston, and 3B Cam Smith maybe an ancillary piece or two to Milwaukee.

We get a plug in 3B who has big upside and some experience, the Sox get a pitcher to pair with Crochet while opening up space for Anthony, and the Stros get a true young quality OF that fits better than Smith miscast in the OF. 

7) Rhys to Twins for P Simeon Woods-Richardson,  We get a good arm who has been up and down with the Twins the past couple years and the Twins get an offense boost to 1B or the DH spot

Just shooting ideas out there. I kind of really like the Megill to Philly idea for right now. We could probably fill in for Megill with Ashby and others coming back. For two 2 big arms and an upside 3B option I would be all for it.

That’s a lot of assumptions. The A’s are a game out of last place in their division with 10 teams ahead of them in the American League. Odds are they won’t be shopping for a veteran starter.

Same deal with Toronto. They have the 8th best record in the AL and are 5 games back in  3rd in the East. They’ll need to play much better to be a buyer in July. 
 

The Braves are the 9th best team in their Division and are 5 games back in 3rd place in the East. Civale wouldn’t be a difference maker for them either. 
 

The Brewers have Megill under team control through the 2027 season. There’s no real reason to trade him, and his 5BB/9 for a late inning reliever means any potential return would likely be underwhelming. 
 

Hoskins is making 22 million dollars this year. The Brewers typically do not pay cash to move their own players. It’s going to depend on how Hoskins plays over the next 2 months as to whether the Brewers can find someone willing to give value in return to take on his contract. 
 

With an 8 million dollar club option for 2026 and potential QO after, Freddy Peralta is the best bargain in baseball and with four Brewer SP heading to free agency trading him away would signal a complete tear down with no chance to compete in the short run. I’m not sure the Brewers would do that after having won 90+ games just last season. 

[Fear The Chorizo]

1 hour ago, Jopal78 said:

That’s a lot of assumptions. The A’s are a game out of last place in their division with 10 teams ahead of them in the American League. Odds are they won’t be shopping for a veteran starter.

Same deal with Toronto. They have the 8th best record in the AL and are 5 games back in  3rd in the East. They’ll need to play much better to be a buyer in July. 
 

The Braves are the 9th best team in their Division and are 5 games back in 3rd place in the East. Civale wouldn’t be a difference maker for them either. 
 

The Brewers have Megill under team control through the 2027 season. There’s no real reason to trade him, and his 5BB/9 for a late inning reliever means any potential return would likely be underwhelming. 
 

Hoskins is making 22 million dollars this year. The Brewers typically do not pay cash to move their own players. It’s going to depend on how Hoskins plays over the next 2 months as to whether the Brewers can find someone willing to give value in return to take on his contract. 
 

With an 8 million dollar club option for 2026 and potential QO after, Freddy Peralta is the best bargain in baseball and with four Brewer SP heading to free agency trading him away would signal a complete tear down with no chance to compete in the short run. I’m not sure the Brewers would do that after having won 90+ games just last season. 

I agree, but shopping Freddy is also the one chip I think the Brewers could get a significant prospect return with during the season - I think there are going to be a ton of teams at this year's deadline in that "will they/won't they" quagmire due to 3 wildcards, and the trade deadline will resemble last year's - where some pricey and oft-injured veteran arms get sent to the large market behemoths as more of salary dump trades, and the big market teams pillage the rosters of the handful of absolute bottom feeding teams that are way, way out of it.  And those trades will largely result in the haves sending peanuts to the have-nots.

I think trading Freddy actually would make some sense as a way of starting an aggressive reset for this Brewer team if they are buried in the standings - he's not going have a higher value via trade than now, and he'd be an arm that would have a bidding war of contenders if they know they can land him.

 

[jay87shot]

1 hour ago, Jopal78 said:

That’s a lot of assumptions. The A’s are a game out of last place in their division with 10 teams ahead of them in the American League. Odds are they won’t be shopping for a veteran starter.

Same deal with Toronto. They have the 8th best record in the AL and are 5 games back in  3rd in the East. They’ll need to play much better to be a buyer in July. 
 

The Braves are the 9th best team in their Division and are 5 games back in 3rd place in the East. Civale wouldn’t be a difference maker for them either. 
 

The Brewers have Megill under team control through the 2027 season. There’s no real reason to trade him, and his 5BB/9 for a late inning reliever means any potential return would likely be underwhelming. 
 

Hoskins is making 22 million dollars this year. The Brewers typically do not pay cash to move their own players. It’s going to depend on how Hoskins plays over the next 2 months as to whether the Brewers can find someone willing to give value in return to take on his contract. 
 

With an 8 million dollar club option for 2026 and potential QO after, Freddy Peralta is the best bargain in baseball and with four Brewer SP heading to free agency trading him away would signal a complete tear down with no chance to compete in the short run. I’m not sure the Brewers would do that after having won 90+ games just last season. 

I just picked teams that were at .500 or better and had needs. Then approximated a respectable return. In all likelihood if the guys I mentioned return and perform well this team will be back in contention and we won't trade away much at all. If those guys come back and stink we will trade them for a lower return.