Skenes...how much would it have taken??

[BrewCrew8675309]

Yes, I know Paul Skenes is not getting traded this year. I was wondering how many Brewer assets would it have taken if he was on the market (and PIT had no issue trading within the NLCentral).

Using Soto as a baseline, he was moved for  Robert Hassell III (minors), Jarlin Susana (minors), CJ Abrams, MacKenzie Gore, Luke Voit and James Wood. Assuming Skenes brings more with more years of control, what would it have taken to get him here?

I will say that Misiorowski is off the table and needed later in this fever dream of a proposal. 

 

Starting off...Made, Letson, Quero, Bitioni, Logan H, CarlosFRod (p), Garret Mitchell (once healthy), and one of Pena, Quintana, DiTuri

Notice how I said "starting off"...it is because I am looking for how much it would have taken to get it done. Since no one is ever happy with the first take...was it...Too much youth? Not enough Top 100s? More MLB starters needed? BTW...PIT throws in IKF and Suwinski as well.

 

Skenes, Peralta, Misiorowski, Quintana (CPatrick till Jose is ready), Woody (QPriester till Brandon is ready), and NCortes (bullpen arms till Nester is ready) would be a fun 6 man rotation, if wanted, with TMyers, CP, and QP as well as AAshby and DLHall able to steal starts if needed OR get ready to replace starters one year guys in 2026.

 

Keep Peralta with the Rhys' $ and what would you trade to see that rotation this year and for the next 5 years...no future 3B there but a whole lot of fun to watch!!

[Brewer77]

I don’t see a way we could do a deal without giving up Misiorowski. They’d clean out our top 100 and some more. Maybe we could escape with Pratt or Quero if they aren’t as high on their offensive capabilities

Either way, there’s no Skenes trade that would be worth it to this organization. That’s a bidding war we can’t afford 

[jay87shot]

I would think more than Soto because he is controllable longer. Basically they would get to pick like 6 prospect after Made if you asked me a price (not that I would do that).

 

[MilwaukeeBeers]

I think he'd command more than the Soto deal due to extreme cost control of a generational arm. However, I don't understand why any team would do that. Especially the brewers. He only performs once every 5 games at the end of the day. If the Pirates have no inclination to contend or add payroll. I don't see the point in holding him hostage so trade him! (Preferably out of the NL Central to the AL lol) 

[Madhawk23]

On 5/27/2025 at 12:37 PM, MilwaukeeBeers said:

I think he'd command more than the Soto deal due to extreme cost control of a generational arm. However, I don't understand why any team would do that. Especially the brewers. He only performs once every 5 games at the end of the day. If the Pirates have no inclination to contend or add payroll. I don't see the point in holding him hostage so trade him! (Preferably out of the NL Central to the AL lol) 

I agree with you. The Pirates would ask for the MOON in return for Skenes (and rightfully so), but no team in their right mind would even come close to honoring their request.  For that reason, I think Skenes will remain with the Pirates for at least 2-3 more seasons and they'll eventually trade him for a few good prospects when he's got a couple of years control before he hits FA.  I would guess at that time he'll command one Top 50 prospect, one prospect in that 50-100 range and then one prospect who is a borderline Top 100 guy.  That's assuming that Skenes has continued to develop himself into one of the top few SP's in all of baseball and also assuming that the acquiring team gets him for 1.5-2 years before he hits the open market.  

[BrewCrewBlueDevil]

Something like Made, Turang, Henderson, Payne, Burke and Misorowski and that might not do it.  He is a top five in baseball 

[Playing Catch]

14 hours ago, BrewCrewBlueDevil said:

Something like Made, Turang, Henderson, Payne, Burke and Misorowski and that might not do it.  He is a top five in baseball 

IMHO, That would be an overpay for Skenes.

Look, I am on board the Skenes-hype train, I am. But a guy that dominates one game like he does is A LOT less valuable on a losing team than on a playoff team. Their on-field team would be MUCH better with Turang, Henderson and Misiorowski than just with Skenes. They could then trade Made, Payne and Burke for serious on-field, team-controllable talent, too, if they wanted. Their whole organizational outlook brightens with that trade scenario.

[BrewerFan]

On 5/27/2025 at 9:57 AM, Brewer77 said:

I don’t see a way we could do a deal without giving up Misiorowski. They’d clean out our top 100 and some more. Maybe we could escape with Pratt or Quero if they aren’t as high on their offensive capabilities

Either way, there’s no Skenes trade that would be worth it to this organization. That’s a bidding war we can’t afford 

I think you could. I actually would rather go for say Pena and Letson over Misiorowski if I were the Pirates. 

I'd say a reasonable trade(given the market and precedent) would be;

Jesus Made+Pratt+Edgar Quero+Wilken+Letson+Knoth...maybe Logan Henderson and add a Jose Anderson/Quintana type

Brewers get

Skenes+McCutchen

I'm not sure that deal gets done and... for the record, McCutchen is just kinda a throw in and I don't know that he'd accept or if he has a NTC. I'm pretty sure he's dedicated to finishing his career with the Pirates, but you could definitely use him as a rental. We just got a real bad year from him. 

 

People who don't follow the Brewers real closely(which is most fans) would be thrilled with a move like this... but I think that would be insane. And that package may not even be enough. It IS possible you have to swap out one of the arms with Misiorowski. 

 

-We all know this is not going to happen, but Skenes is special. Just to pose a hypothetical, would ANYONE make this trade IF you could get Skenes to agree to a 10/180M deal with 2 options worth 35M a year? An extension worked out like you do in Football at times or even Baseball, I think it's happened.

I don't see him signing an extension unless it's closer to fair market value. So 40M AAV for a decade+ but this is just a BS hypothetical. 

[BrewerFan]

On 5/27/2025 at 12:37 PM, MilwaukeeBeers said:

I think he'd command more than the Soto deal due to extreme cost control of a generational arm. However, I don't understand why any team would do that. Especially the brewers. He only performs once every 5 games at the end of the day. If the Pirates have no inclination to contend or add payroll. I don't see the point in holding him hostage so trade him! (Preferably out of the NL Central to the AL lol) 

Yeah, there's a strong argument for it.

He may be the best pitcher in the game the next 4.5 years...which is how long you'd have him. 

People saying these packages would be overpaying, I gotta ask, in what context? 

For the Brewers or for the market?

The trade I threw out there is a terrible move for the Brewers. It's insane. They've done all this to build what I think may be the best system in the game, but the question is what would his value be if you have to bid vs other teams. I think...I threw out a fair market value. 

[TURBO]

Make a trade like that, and Skenes blows up his arm?

That is a move far too risky, FAR TOO RISKY for a small market club to even consider making.  All it would take is for Tommy John to rear it's ugly head and it's curtains for the Brewers while we watch what could have happened in Milwaukee happen in Pittsburgh

I mean, we are talking something so detrimental to the organization that we would doom ourselves for half a decade at least.

[Samurai Bucky]

On 6/3/2025 at 9:16 PM, TURBO said:

Make a trade like that, and Skenes blows up his arm?

That is a move far too risky, FAR TOO RISKY for a small market club to even consider making.  All it would take is for Tommy John to rear it's ugly head and it's curtains for the Brewers while we watch what could have happened in Milwaukee happen in Pittsburgh

I mean, we are talking something so detrimental to the organization that we would doom ourselves for half a decade at least.

As much as I would love to see him in a Brewers uniform, @TURBO is exactly right.  I would rather see the "Starting 6" or "Starting 8" where there are a lot of options as opposed to having one good starter and a few mediocre starters.

The D'Backs might agree... 😉