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On 11/22/2025 at 10:04 PM, jay87shot said:

Henderson/Pratt and maybe another mid level?

Skubal is a dude, there will be a Mets, yankees, Dodgers, red Sox, more bidding war on him if avaliable and those teams will give him like 10/400 possibly.

Henderson & Pratt & Peralta might do it, depending on what they think of Henderson-Pratt.

The Tigers are a playoff team so replacing Skubal with Peralta, while a downgrade, still gives them a #2-3 type starter they can use for their ‘26 rotation. Pratt is a top 50-75 prospect that would give Detroit their SS of the future, and Henderson another starter for the ‘26 season. If I’m Detroit and want to sell high on Skubal, this would be a tough offer to turn down.

If I’m the Brewers and can absorb Skubal’s $20+ salary for the ‘26 season I’m making the trade. A playoff rotation of Skubal-Woodruff-Misiorowski-Patrick gives the team an incredibly good chance to win a title.

Made is the SS of the future anyhow and the team has tons of controlled starter depth moving-forward so they can afford to lose Henderson.

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3 hours ago, SF70 said:

Henderson & Pratt & Peralta might do it, depending on what they think of Henderson-Pratt.

The Tigers are a playoff team so replacing Skubal with Peralta, while a downgrade, still gives them a #2-3 type starter they can use for their ‘26 rotation. Pratt is a top 50-75 prospect that would give Detroit their SS of the future, and Henderson another starter for the ‘26 season. If I’m Detroit and want to sell high on Skubal, this would be a tough offer to turn down.

If I’m the Brewers and can absorb Skubal’s $20+ salary for the ‘26 season I’m making the trade. A playoff rotation of Skubal-Woodruff-Misiorowski-Patrick gives the team an incredibly good chance to win a title.

Made is the SS of the future anyhow and the team has tons of controlled starter depth moving-forward so they can afford to lose Henderson.

For me, I'm not giving up Henderson and Pratt just to get Skubal for a one-and-done. Peralta is pretty darn good and he too gives Milwaukee a good shot at the playoffs. Then the Brewerss could use the $13M they'd be saving on something else. 

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13 hours ago, wntrtxn21 said:

For me, I'm not giving up Henderson and Pratt just to get Skubal for a one-and-done. Peralta is pretty darn good and he too gives Milwaukee a good shot at the playoffs. Then the Brewerss could use the $13M they'd be saving on something else. 

Oh, I am  in on this trade.  Easy decision for Brewers….plenty of SP depth and presumably better infield prospects than Pratt. I’d assume the Tigers would ask for more. Pretty sure Dodgers top this offer.

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Would there be any interest in trading William Contreras? I would think that we would get a monster return and it would solve some of the budget issues if you believe there is one. I dont think I would because I think he will get the offense back to previous standards and we dont need to hurt the offense at all.

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9 hours ago, jay87shot said:

Would there be any interest in trading William Contreras? I would think that we would get a monster return and it would solve some of the budget issues if you believe there is one. I dont think I would because I think he will get the offense back to previous standards and we dont need to hurt the offense at all.

Nope, none...not this off season, maybe next.

Trading William would crush this team, and we'd have no one to take his place that we can 100% count on.

Just picture this line-up as it sits without Contreras.  Disgusting.

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I think the O's would be a good spot for Peralta. They have already signed Helsely and traded for Taylor Ward so it would seem they will be aggressive. They should be desperate for pitching and I doubt they sign a top free agent based on past spending.

Dylan Beavers might be a good starting piece if you think he can be a CF'er. They drafted a ton of pieces I like and have some interesting pitching in there top 15 as well. It would be a decent option at least.

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18 hours ago, jay87shot said:

I think the O's would be a good spot for Peralta. They have already signed Helsely and traded for Taylor Ward so it would seem they will be aggressive. They should be desperate for pitching and I doubt they sign a top free agent based on past spending.

Dylan Beavers might be a good starting piece if you think he can be a CF'er. They drafted a ton of pieces I like and have some interesting pitching in there top 15 as well. It would be a decent option at least.

I think it’s more likely Coby Mayo ends up an average 3B than Beavers an average CF, so I’d think we’d want him over Beavers.   Also Basallo makes a lot of sense if we believe our catching lab can help him.   Just don’t see Beaves as a centerpiece being enough for our brass to decide to deal Freddy.   You gotta think bigger because we will just keep him as our #1 and take the Comp A pick without more of a headliner coming our way. 

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18 hours ago, jay87shot said:

I think the O's would be a good spot for Peralta. They have already signed Helsely and traded for Taylor Ward so it would seem they will be aggressive. They should be desperate for pitching and I doubt they sign a top free agent based on past spending.

Dylan Beavers might be a good starting piece if you think he can be a CF'er. They drafted a ton of pieces I like and have some interesting pitching in there top 15 as well. It would be a decent option at least.

If I'm Arnold and I'm talking to the O's about Freddy, I think I'm demanding that they give me Mayo and Trey Gibson back in return.  

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1 hour ago, Madhawk23 said:

If I'm Arnold and I'm talking to the O's about Freddy, I think I'm demanding that they give me Mayo and Trey Gibson back in return.  

Good call, sir.   If if if we trade Freddy, we should be “winning” the trade somewhat convincingly from a team needing the top starter this year (maybe resigning him ) and ok with the essentially late round comp pick if not.

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8 hours ago, Madhawk23 said:

If I'm Arnold and I'm talking to the O's about Freddy, I think I'm demanding that they give me Mayo and Trey Gibson back in return.  

Beavers, Mayo, and Gibson would be a package at or slightly better than what we got for Burnes. 

Ortiz=Beavers Would be the top 100 prospect with a solid AAA season behind them.

Hall=Mayo.   Guys struggling to get there footing in the bigs but have solid prospects pedigree.

Gibson=Comp A pick.   Probably a pretty close value.

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7 hours ago, jay87shot said:

Beavers, Mayo, and Gibson would be a package at or slightly better than what we got for Burnes. 

Ortiz=Beavers Would be the top 100 prospect with a solid AAA season behind them.

Hall=Mayo.   Guys struggling to get there footing in the bigs but have solid prospects pedigree.

Gibson=Comp A pick.   Probably a pretty close value.

I’d probably do Beavers & Gibson & the comp A pick for Peralta.

Both of the players have a chance to impact the  ‘26 team so that’s the type of return we should do for player the caliber of Peralta.

 

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So I’d like to note that we should be adding players to a Peralta trade for better players.   Like in this Orioles instance, offer DL Hall back to them with Peralta for a greater package. 

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4 minutes ago, KCBrewerfan34 said:

Does DL Hall have any value? 

Yes, especially to the team that led him to star prospect levels and with which he ended as a strong reliever on a good playoff team.   Absolutely no doubt Baltimore values him to the point where it would increase a theoretical package.

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6 minutes ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Yes, especially to the team that led him to star prospect levels and with which he ended as a strong reliever on a good playoff team.   Absolutely no doubt Baltimore values him to the point where it would increase a theoretical package.

No and especially not to the team that already gave up on him once. Hall is now a 27 year old reliever coming off a xFIP of 4.85 season where his K/9 is now under 6.5.

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1 hour ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Yes, especially to the team that led him to star prospect levels and with which he ended as a strong reliever on a good playoff team.   Absolutely no doubt Baltimore values him to the point where it would increase a theoretical package.

No doubt Baltimore values the player they gave up on and traded away?

Yeah, I doubt that DL Hall is going to spearhead any trades with the O's...

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Ok then.   I’ll move myself along on Hall and maintain the premise of my point that we should add pieces to Peralta and get better talent back than simply trading Peralta for 3 pieces .

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1 hour ago, endaround said:

No and especially not to the team that already gave up on him once. Hall is now a 27 year old reliever coming off a xFIP of 4.85 season where his K/9 is now under 6.5.

“Gave up on” to you must mean what “dealt as one of two main pieces for one of the top five pitchers in baseball” means to me.    Six to one half a dozen to another I guess.   Just semantics.

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13 hours ago, jay87shot said:

Beavers, Mayo, and Gibson would be a package at or slightly better than what we got for Burnes. 

Ortiz=Beavers Would be the top 100 prospect with a solid AAA season behind them.

Hall=Mayo.   Guys struggling to get there footing in the bigs but have solid prospects pedigree.

Gibson=Comp A pick.   Probably a pretty close value.

I doubt we're getting both Mayo and Beavers in a deal for Freddy.  At least that would be my guess.  As @SF70 noted in his reply - I think I'd absolutely pull the trigger though on a Mayo/Beavers, Gibson and Comp Pick package coming back for Freddy.  

That then leads me to my next question: who does everyone here value more - Mayo or Beavers?  Has the shine completely come off of Mayo?  I did see that he finished his season in the big leagues pretty strong, so maybe he just needed to settle in a bit during his first 150-200 PA's at the MLB level before he started to figure some things out?  Feels like Mayo is a guy who could have a coming out party this year with an everyday spot....no?  

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2 hours ago, Madhawk23 said:

I doubt we're getting both Mayo and Beavers in a deal for Freddy.  At least that would be my guess.  As @SF70 noted in his reply - I think I'd absolutely pull the trigger though on a Mayo/Beavers, Gibson and Comp Pick package coming back for Freddy.  

That then leads me to my next question: who does everyone here value more - Mayo or Beavers?  Has the shine completely come off of Mayo?  I did see that he finished his season in the big leagues pretty strong, so maybe he just needed to settle in a bit during his first 150-200 PA's at the MLB level before he started to figure some things out?  Feels like Mayo is a guy who could have a coming out party this year with an everyday spot....no?  

Beavers over Mayo. The O's think Mayo looks to be pretty much a 1B . He has done poorly with the bat in MLB.  I think Beavers looks to have a bigger upside but, like Mayo, has a high whiff rate that is concerning. Beavers could be a decent RF moving Sal to CF. Gibson is the one I'm not sure about.  His AAA numbers are pathetic (a small sample granted, but still very poor).  I think Milwaukee could look elsewhere to get a better return.

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The Brewers have been receiving a lot of calls on Peralta.  They are now more receptive to possibly trading Peralta.  I have asked some of my contacts about this rumor and they can confirm it is true but nothing has been discussed with any team on a trade.  No names have been exchanged and it is mostly just teams checking in on if Peralta is available.

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On 12/2/2025 at 1:33 PM, Scooterfletcher said:

I think it’s more likely Coby Mayo ends up an average 3B than Beavers an average CF, so I’d think we’d want him over Beavers.   Also Basallo makes a lot of sense if we believe our catching lab can help him.   Just don’t see Beaves as a centerpiece being enough for our brass to decide to deal Freddy.   You gotta think bigger because we will just keep him as our #1 and take the Comp A pick without more of a headliner coming our way. 

Baltimore is not going to trade Basallo for Freddy Peralta. I don't like to speak in absolutes... but they're absolutely NOT trading the guy they just signed to an 8 year extension with an additional team option at 20 years old... and then turn around and trade him for a rental. 

His comp is Yordan Alvarez... but at catcher. Would you make that trade if it was the Brewers?

Would you trade... Jesus Made for one year of Freddy Peralta?

That's roughly what you'd be asking of the O's. Made may have more upside(may) but Basallo is under team control through 2035. 

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17 hours ago, wntrtxn21 said:

Beavers over Mayo. The O's think Mayo looks to be pretty much a 1B . He has done poorly with the bat in MLB.  I think Beavers looks to have a bigger upside but, like Mayo, has a high whiff rate that is concerning. Beavers could be a decent RF moving Sal to CF. Gibson is the one I'm not sure about.  His AAA numbers are pathetic (a small sample granted, but still very poor).  I think Milwaukee could look elsewhere to get a better return.

I hear you on the Gibson concerns with his AAA performance at the end of this season, but FWIW - he has been showing up on some Top 100 prospect lists over the past 6 months - most notably Kiley McDaniel and Aram Leighton's list.  So, he's pretty highly thought of and is a guy that should be ready to contribute at the MLB level at some point this upcoming season (which we know the Brewers like when making these trades).  I think we could do A LOT worse than a Mayo/Beavers, Gibson and Comp pick package.  

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