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I bet we already have some quality offers on the table but Arnold is making teams really make it worth our while.  I could see a promising upper minors starter, an OF with pop and a lottery ticket type out of left field with certain metrics we like.  

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10 hours ago, Glenn Braggs Bat said:

As much as I enjoy Freddy being a Brewer, i do believe that ultimately the Mets will meet their asking price due to the fact that their rotation as it stands needs another proven/durable starter to pair with Manaea, Senga and their other highly thought of youthful starters.  They would be an ideal match in my opinion.  Any chance we could land a package close to Jett Williams, one of (Watson/Wenninger/Santucci) and possibly Kussow? This helps us now with another super utility (2b, SS, OF and well rounded hitter) to help protect against injury or regression this year.  A possible mid rotation starter option a year or so away and a high potential, and local lottery ticket pitcher to work with.  

Look at the trades of Hader, Burnes and Williams each of those players were traded for multiple less experienced players,  nearly all of whom plugged directly into the major league roster.
 

Trading Peralta hurts the Brewers chances to defend their division title in 2026, so I’d imagine any trade involving Peralta would involve players plugging directly into the major league roster to fill the talent void and not bench/utility players and minor leaguers.

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18 hours ago, brewcrewdue80 said:

Dominguez at 5-9 also below 700 expected OPS.  The last 2 seasons show he is a massive negative runs towards range ability. We already have him in Tyler Black for the OF.

Think Dominguez hype was maturing and growing probably closer to 6ft.  5-9 and negative range is a huge pass.

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I was just using Dominguez as an example maybe the high end prospect is Carson Benge or Payton Tolle that we would add Megill or someone else to in a Freddy trade. I do agree that Dominguez has an over inflated value in part just being part of the NY hype machine. Had he been in our system he may have been more of a Luis Pena hyped prospect.

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12 hours ago, BrewCrew8675309 said:

So the Cubs just traded for Cabrera.

 

With what the Cubs gave up, how do you think this impacts any potential Peralta deal in your mind? Does it give us a little clearer vision on the landscape of what it would take to move Peralta?

I don't think it impact a Freddy trade a ton other than there is now 1 less inexpensive trade option out there, Cabrera is such a wild card that his range of outcomes over the 3 years he has left. Injuries and previous control issue could render him very little value to the Cubs, however he has ace stuff. I think most teams were willing to give up one good piece like Cassie but little else because of the volatility. Peralta is more of a sure thing (not guaranteed) so I do think he has a much different market. I doubt Freddy would bring back a prospect as like Cassie but teams will likely give up much better secondary pieces to gain the consistency.

Freddy would be an add for a team looking to win the world series, where Cabrera really fit any team looking to add a quality arm. 

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I thought one of those top baseball insider posted Freddy would bring back more than Burnes return. Which was 2 former/borderline top 100 prospects and the comp pick.

Jay your comment on Dominguez being overhyped, projections were based on growing from age 16.(wonder if he's 2 or more years older than stated)  he didnt grow from his height or only 1 inch.  5-9 just limits the peak.  Had he reached 6 ft he would likely be meeting the hype with the bat.

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48 minutes ago, brewcrewdue80 said:

I thought one of those top baseball insider posted Freddy would bring back more than Burnes return. Which was 2 former/borderline top 100 prospects and the comp pick.

Jay your comment on Dominguez being overhyped, projections were based on growing from age 16.(wonder if he's 2 or more years older than stated)  he didnt grow from his height or only 1 inch.  5-9 just limits the peak.  Had he reached 6 ft he would likely be meeting the hype with the bat.

Yes, Ken Rosenthal.

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Brewers hold all the cards - You make teams overpay

If it is the Yankees, you demand ( not ask ) for Jasson Domínguez and Carlos Lagrange

If you need to send them someone like Perkins, you do it. 

Jasson Domínguez can be a 15/30 guy

 

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1 minute ago, Lloyd330 said:

Brewers hold all the cards - You make teams overpay

If it is the Yankees, you demand ( not ask ) for Jasson Domínguez and Carlos Lagrange

If you need to send them someone like Mitchell, you do it. 

Not sure what the infatuation is with Dominguez is but he is not someone I would give up anything extra for.  He looked promising early on but now not so much.

I don’t believe the Yankees are a good trade partner as I don’t like any of their prospects.  Lagrange has a lot of control issues.  I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up as a reliever instead of a starter.

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Not sure Dominguez would be up to snuff defensively for the Brewers.

Among 33 players with at least 800 innings in LF the last two years he is at -8 DRS (29th) and -10 FRV (27th) in only 898 innings.

The other LF who have graded out equally poorly have done so in more innings (Teoscar aside) and are also older dudes (James Wood aside). If Jasson is already putting up numbers that bad at age 21 and 22 it's probably not a good sign.

Teoscar (871 innings)
-8 DRS | -11 FRV | 33yo

Arozarena (2597 innings)
-9 DRS | -16 FRV | 30yo

Austin Hays (1044 innings)
-10 DRS | -3 FRV | 30yo

Benintendi (1594 innings)
-16 DRS | -19 FRV | 31yo

Profar (1,904 innings)
-17 DRS | -14 FRV | 32yo

Bryan Reynolds (1016 innings)
-5 DRS | -10 FRV | 30yo

James Wood (1765 innings)
-6 DRS | -11 FRV | 23yo

Michael Conforto (1845 innings)
-5 DRS | -12 FRV | 32yo

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Pitchers are one pitch away from the DL. It does not make business sense to keep Freddy and the reality of our "small market" status ensures that high value trades (Hader,Burnes,Williams) keeps us playoff bound Playoff worthy = fans attending home games and fan interest. Good teams, bad teams, I will always remain INTERESTED.

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3 hours ago, BadgerBert1 said:

Pitchers are one pitch away from the DL. It does not make business sense to keep Freddy and the reality of our "small market" status ensures that high value trades (Hader,Burnes,Williams) keeps us playoff bound Playoff worthy = fans attending home games and fan interest. Good teams, bad teams, I will always remain INTERESTED.

True, but the casual fan won't understand why we would trade Freddy, and they might be less likely to attend games if they don't recognize any of the players.  Freddy is a name, at least to Brewers fans, so trading him could hinder the casual/average fan...  

 

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Do posters here think the brewers would accept Jett Williams and Sproat for Peralta?  My current thinking is that Sproat is agreed upon but we want another 50-100 prospect and I could see us focused on Williams and his potential versatility, speed, etc.   Is that enough to get it done?

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9 hours ago, TURBO said:

True, but the casual fan won't understand why we would trade Freddy, and they might be less likely to attend games if they don't recognize any of the players.  Freddy is a name, at least to Brewers fans, so trading him could hinder the casual/average fan...  

 

That same casual fan probably won’t align their schedule to attend on a day when Peralta pitches. They just plan on going on a random Saturday or Tuesday night. That lessens the importance of a particular starting pitcher to a casual fan as opposed to an everyday player

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Just in getting a pulse from other fan bases, Orioles fans seem to think Mayo:Povich/Mountcastle/top 5 prospect is fair for Peralta.   Which led me to wondering if Beavers/Mayo/Povich for Freddy could be realistic.  

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On 1/10/2026 at 10:35 AM, BadgerBert1 said:

Pitchers are one pitch away from the DL. It does not make business sense to keep Freddy and the reality of our "small market" status ensures that high value trades (Hader,Burnes,Williams) keeps us playoff bound Playoff worthy = fans attending home games and fan interest. Good teams, bad teams, I will always remain INTERESTED.

Yet if they traded him, they'd likely go spend 8-12 million on a 1 year aging vet SP with the same 1 pitch away possibility who you hope gives you 150 innings of below 4.5 ERA on the mound. 

 

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2 hours ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Just in getting a pulse from other fan bases, Orioles fans seem to think Mayo:Povich/Mountcastle/top 5 prospect is fair for Peralta.   Which led me to wondering if Beavers/Mayo/Povich for Freddy could be realistic.  

Any trade with the Orioles should begin and end with Beavers. I’d even maybe do it straight up.

Guy is 1000% a Brewer. Elite approach and plays all over the outfield. I think that’s a Yelich / Contreras type trade if we can swing it.

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On 1/10/2026 at 3:33 PM, Scooterfletcher said:

Do posters here think the brewers would accept Jett Williams and Sproat for Peralta?  My current thinking is that Sproat is agreed upon but we want another 50-100 prospect and I could see us focused on Williams and his potential versatility, speed, etc.   Is that enough to get it done?

Williams and Tong would be better 

Williams would fit the Brewers profile - small guy that is probably a 270/15/30 guy

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13 hours ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Just in getting a pulse from other fan bases, Orioles fans seem to think Mayo:Povich/Mountcastle/top 5 prospect is fair for Peralta.   Which led me to wondering if Beavers/Mayo/Povich for Freddy could be realistic.  

Just curious where you heard this? It seems like a lot for the O's to give up, so I'm surprised to hear they think that would be fair. It'd be interesting to see the conversation around it if it came from a fan forum or something.

Mountcastle also seems like a redundant piece with Vaughn already on board (both RH, 97 vs 98 wRC+ the past two years, 28 vs 27 yo) and at $7M basically negates saving anything on Freddy's salary. So he only makes sense if including him allows the rest of the package to be better than without him.

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On 1/10/2026 at 2:23 PM, TURBO said:

True, but the casual fan won't understand why we would trade Freddy, and they might be less likely to attend games if they don't recognize any of the players.  Freddy is a name, at least to Brewers fans, so trading him could hinder the casual/average fan...  

 

Being competitive will always be more important. I don’t think Brewer fans have ever really cared that much for clinging to certain players to that degree. The last two franchise players they made both became glass and Braun even had the bonus PED scandal.

Peralta isn’t even that big of a fan favorite. Actually, they already brought back the preferred fan favorite pitcher (Woodruff).

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14 hours ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Just in getting a pulse from other fan bases, Orioles fans seem to think Mayo:Povich/Mountcastle/top 5 prospect is fair for Peralta.   Which led me to wondering if Beavers/Mayo/Povich for Freddy could be realistic.  

If a Beavers/Mayo/Povich package were realistic it would have already been done.  No chance the O's are giving up that much for 1 year of Freddy.  We might be able to get Mayo/Povich and their Comp pick, but there's no way they'd be giving up all three of those guys.  And I'm not sure if I'm in love with a Mayo/Povich package as I think there's still a lot of risk involved with both of those guys at the MLB level.  

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On 1/6/2026 at 4:54 PM, gregmag said:

If Thanos infinity-gauntlets Durbin tomorrow, we still won the Williams trade. We’ve already gotten more value than we gave up in the Burnes trade. I’m not going to relitigate the Hader trade for the 217th time, so I’ll just say that I view Contreras as part of that trade yield. We could not have extended any of those guys, given how Mark A. chooses to operate. We had no problem replacing any of their contributions. If we get the same quality of result from a Peralta trade, I’ll be very happy. [emphasis mine]

I think I'm in the same boat as most posters, here, as I am pretty ambivalent regarding a Freddy trade. But I do think the circumstances are different, now. The overall organizational roster was still being built up when they made trades in the past. They were still plugging holes. They are now the belle of the baseball world, returning most of their roster from a 97-win team. They've always continued to build from the bottom up, but they are nearing the stage of organizational progress where they can "afford" to hang onto luxury players --- players with surplus value for the future, but maximum value for 2026.

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The Just Baseball pod suggested the following return from Yankees:

Gil

Lagrange

Jones

Strictly from a value standpoint, I think this feels like a very solid package. Two top 100 prospects in Lagrange and Jones…and then the 2024 ROY in Gil. I know Gil is coming off of a Lat strain last year, so that might be a bit of a concern and of course Jones is one of the most polarizing prospects in all of baseball so we’d have to feel good that we could work with him on his swing so that he could lower his K rate moving forward.

Curious for thoughts on this package. 

 

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If we are moving Freddy to NYY in a Gil trade, Elmer Rodriguez HAS to be in the deal.   The third or potentially fourth pieces can waver more but he has to come with Gil at a minimum.

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