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12 hours ago, adambr2 said:

Franklin was atrocious in 2025 but a pretty good player before that. Was he playing injured last year?

new scheme? 

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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Kinda figured this was coming. There's your center.

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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1 hour ago, homer said:

Kinda figured this was coming. There's your center.

Yes, seems like too much for him but salaries are skyrocketing and you need to bring some of these guys back. I suspect Enegbare will get something similar if the Gary talk is true. Assuming Morgan can play LT at least you can pencil in a starting oline now.  

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Wow, that is pretty unbelievable.  Rhyan lost the RG spot, then got below-average to bad grades for his work at center, and as we speak he now has the 5th highest contract at center in terms of APY (although there are 3 free agent centers that should easily beat that number in the next couple of weeks).   The line really collapsed down the stretch and just handing Rhyan a starting job is very, very questionable.  After four years of Josh Myers, and the ridiculous contract given to Aaron Banks, is it just safe to assume that Gutekunst has absolutely no skills when it comes to evaluating interior offensive line play?

I had heard some support for bringing Rhyan back on a 2 year, 12 million dollar package to be in interior swing-man and be a band-aid until a rookie got up to speed, and I don't think that would have been an unreasonable move.  But to give him a top 5 contract (likely top 9 contract after a couple weeks) and just hand him a starting job just seems like dumb move to me.  Especially when looking at the free agent market and the pool of centers in this year's draft.

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I thought he played a lot better at center than Jenkins did, particularly in the run game but I'm not a film nerd or anything. I think this ultimately is a one year deal and they draft someone to compete with him.

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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FWIW

 

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35 minutes ago, homer said:

FWIW

 

The Eagles just gave DT-Jordan Davis a 3-year, 78 million dollar deal.  It sounds like they are now actively shopping Carter to everybody and will deal him if they find the right deal.  They are playing their cards right, a Carter trade is also being linked to the Vikings, so it looks like the Eagles may be trying to set up a bidding war between two division rivals.

Seems like a recipe for disaster for the Packers.  Howie Roseman >>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Gutekunst.  Carter is a former Bulldog meathead, so there is no doubt that Gutekunst would really, really covet him.

 

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14 minutes ago, JosephC said:

The Eagles just gave DT-Jordan Davis a 3-year, 78 million dollar deal.  It sounds like they are now actively shopping Carter to everybody and will deal him if they find the right deal.  They are playing their cards right, a Carter trade is also being linked to the Vikings, so it looks like the Eagles may be trying to set up a bidding war between two division rivals.

Seems like a recipe for disaster for the Packers.  Howie Roseman >>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Gutekunst.  Carter is a former Bulldog meathead, so there is no doubt that Gutekunst would really, really covet him.

 

I don't think GB has the draft capital to get him. I hope Minny gives up the farm.

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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Someone actually wrote in an article that a deal would be something like Carter for Rashan Gary, Karl Brooks and a second round pick.  If that's the max that the Eagles could get for Carter...then Carter's reputation is so bad that he has pretty minimal value.  Even when subtracting out the signing bonus money for Gary, he still would carry a 19.5 million dollar payout and cap hit in 2026 and a 22.5 million dollar payout and cap hit for 2027. 

I don't think there is much of a chance of a deal happening, but just for kicks, with the AJ Brown situation, the Eagles would probably be looking for a wide receiver.  ILB-Nakobe Dean is a free agent.  They have several EDGE players who are free agents, including Jaelan Phillips.  Their top 3 TEs are free agents.  So I would think names the Eagles would be looking at would include Christian Watson, Matthew Golden, Edgerrin Cooper, Rashan Gary (Packers have to throw MORE in the deal to offset Gary's salary), Luke Musgrave (as a third piece, lottery type inclusion in the deal...the guy hasn't been good but there certainly are enough athletic tools there to work with), Dontayvion Wicks (third piece), Brenton Cox Jr (third piece).  Get a couple "right" players and a second round pick, and maybe there is something that could work.  From what I'm reading, it sounds like the Eagles have some motivation to deal Carter now.

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The Rhyan deal has an 11 million dollar signing bonus, so it appears they are paying him to be a starter for the next two seasons.  No other details out yet, but it's probably safe to assume the first year cap number will be $4,881,666.

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3 hours ago, JosephC said:

The Rhyan deal has an 11 million dollar signing bonus, so it appears they are paying him to be a starter for the next two seasons.  No other details out yet, but it's probably safe to assume the first year cap number will be $4,881,666.

And the Packers usually do not guarantee anything other than the signing bonus.  So my guess is that it's really a one-year deal to see if he can improve enough with a full off-season of full-time work at center to warrant a second year.

If he gets cut after one year, then it's about a $7.3M cap hit.  Not great, but not anything that will cripple them.

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I thought Rhyan played better than his PFF numbers; especially later in the season. I expected him back this year, but that is quite a bit more than I expected. Perhaps an offseason of focusing on the C position will help him.  But seeing how Monk couldn't see the field last year and the team kept signing, cutting, and resigning Lecitus Smith last year for C depth, they still need to draft a C/G for development. 

I'm not too worried about losing Wooden since he wouldn't have been a 3-4 NT anyway.  He did a surprisingly nice job at stopping the run last year but wore down as the game went on. 

Clearly NT needs to be a focus this year.  Hopefully Stackhouse follows in the path of Slaton (terrible rookie season, passable 2nd year depth, good 3rd year) and we add a veteran depth in front of him. 

"Rock, sometime, when the team is up against it, and the breaks are beating the boys, tell 'em to go out there with all they got and win just one for the Uecker. I don't know where I'll be then, Rock but I'll know about it; and I'll be happy."

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On 3/6/2026 at 2:18 PM, homer said:

LOL I guess his account was hacked? 

He wasnt hacked!

 

 

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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2027 draft is gonna be interesting for GB

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4 minutes ago, homer said:

2027 draft is gonna be interesting for GB

Exactly. I expect multiple 4th round comp picks for FA losses this week. 

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35 minutes ago, patrickgpe said:

Exactly. I expect multiple 4th round comp picks for FA losses this week. 

Projections are two 3rds (Willis, R. Walker) and two 4ths (Doubs, Q. Walker).

That would make three 3rds and four 4ths total.

Pretty safe bet that GB will be trading up in 2027.

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Hopefully the Cowboys cut Clark. 

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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It will be interesting to find out if the Gary deal goes through the NFL right away, or if the teams will wait and "process the trade through the league" after June 1st.  If the trade is processed through the league immediately, Gary counts 17.042 million against the 2026 cap.  If the trade is processed after June 1st, Gary counts 8.521 against the 2026 cap and 8.521 against the 2027 cap.  That extra 8.5+ million could be the difference between cutting or not cutting a player like Nate Hobbs.

Cowboys mandatory OTA happen mid-June, so it appears that there is no extra benefit for them if this trade is processed today or the first week in June.  However, they are way over the cap, so there is a very good chance they will want to rework Gary's contract immediately to push down his 19.5 million dollar cap number.  

I'm pretty surprised the Packers got a 4th round pick for Gary.  Good job by Gutekunst here.  I was figuring the best they would get would be a 6th, or since they have so many 7th rounders this year, maybe get a 5th and send a 7th pick back along with Gary.  It is a bit of a bummer that the pick is a 2027 pick, but still see this as a very good return engineered by Gutekunst. 

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1 hour ago, patrickgpe said:

Exactly. I expect multiple 4th round comp picks for FA losses this week. 

This really hasn't come up on this board, but I've seen it mentioned on other websites how the Packers need to avoid certain free agent signings so they don't compromise possible compensatory picks for the 2027 draft.

I don't get it.

Everybody celebrates giving up 2 first round picks for an edge rusher in a clear "go for it" move in 2025.  So the team starts off well and then completely flops down the stretch, one reason being is that the edge rusher got hurt.  So then we move into season #2 with the edge rusher and all of a sudden we are worried about losing a fourth round pick?  It's pretty unlikely the Packers will be playing in 20+ million APY territory, so in terms of the cancellation chart, a third round pick should be pretty safe no matter what they do in free agency.  I don't know if Packer fans are gun-shy with free agents after Banks and Hobbs, but if there is a good free agent cornerback or offensive lineman or nose tackle that looks like he can help in 2026, it doesn't seem like the time the team should be worrying about losing a late fourth round pick.

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I'm pretty whatever on the whole thing. Gary can go, 4th is better than nothing for the guy. I am just seeing too many holes on this team in too many big spots. 

Shaken confidence in anyone making FGs, major depth/performance problems on both lines. Depending on a lot of key guys coming back from major injuries.

Granted it's March but they are not in a very flexible position. They should be too good to win fewer than 10 games, but it almost has the feel of one of those years where the bottom falls out and they end up resetting in 2027. Sort of like the 2022 season where they end up being a lot worse than it seems. 

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yikes

 

 

"Dustin Pedroia doesn't have the strength or bat speed to hit major-league pitching consistently, and he has no power......He probably has a future as a backup infielder if he can stop rolling over to third base and shortstop." Keith Law, 2006
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22 minutes ago, homer said:

yikes

 

 

Yes, he was absolutely terrible and at the age where they start getting worse, not better. He will probably have a year or two of better than last season simply because he was unbelievably awful, but they signed him as an ascending player they believed would anchor their pass rush and he got worse and lazier immediately. 

I don't think anyone rational ever believed he was a top pass rusher, but I hope seeing Parsons up close shows everyone the difference between an impact rusher and an average one - which Gary can't even claim to be last year. 

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