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2 hours ago, LouisEly said:

If they're still on the board at #120, I think my preference in order would be:

DDS
Bryce Lance
Mike Washington
Drew Shelton
Charles Demmings

Hey, off the schneid!

Not their biggest need this year, but a really good value at this point.

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6 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

Cant argue with it, have added some good pieces on D for not having a 1st.

Yes, offense is paper thin but if luck out with health on the oline and WR's I feel we are OK. Defense needed some new starters and they have addressed it. 

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I don't know if DDS means the end of LVN's tenure in GB after this season, but it almost certainly means they are not picking up his 5th year option.  GB now has a little more leverage to only extend LVN on a much more team-friendly deal with low guaranteed $ and can let LVN walk if he doesn't accept.

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I don't think any of the picks mean the end of anyone. It's never a bad thing to have rotational DL and competitions for snaps. I mean yeah, LVN's days are numbered, but linemen are just something you never have enough of.

I don't know what leverage LVN could have on anybody. He's done nothing. 

They have to be very confident that Jordan Morgan is fine, though. 

 

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1 minute ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

I don't think any of the picks mean the end of anyone. It's never a bad thing to have rotational DL and competitions for snaps. I mean yeah, LVN's days are numbered, but linemen are just something you never have enough of.

They have to be very confident that Jordan Morgan is fine, though. 

 

Yeah, the whole scuttlebutt the last few months was improving the depth, and that's exactly what Gute is doing with this draft. 

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For not having a 1st round pick (and without playing a snap), I'm pretty happy about how things have been going.  Seems like we are finding players of high value for each of our picks at positions of need. 

"Rock, sometime, when the team is up against it, and the breaks are beating the boys, tell 'em to go out there with all they got and win just one for the Uecker. I don't know where I'll be then, Rock but I'll know about it; and I'll be happy."

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As for all the churn about the OL, I'll add:

  1. LT: I think Morgan played pretty even with Walker in TC (maybe a tad better), but not enough to displace him as a starter.  Then Walker ended up playing worse than he did the prior year.  I'm not expecting Morgan to be an All-Pro, but I think LT is his best position.  I don't suspect any drop off from Walker with some potential upside. 
  2. LG: Banks has a history of two things: average RG play and injuries.  By the end of the season, his play was solid.  We will need depth to replace him in injury but like him or not... he is a starter quality player. 
  3. C: Rhyan was put in a bad situation last year and did "OK".  He certainly needs to improve...and I guess we will see if he can do that.  I wouldn't have given him a 3 year contract, but that will give him the first shot.  It was more telling that Monk never got a look there last year.  We just got our backup.
  4. RG: Belton was thrown in the middle of the season without playing G before.  He was playing very well by the end of the season.  I suspect he will be much better this year. 
  5. RT: Tom is the best player we have on the OL, so health is the only question here.  Kinnard did OK as a backup.  Another development player would make me feel better. 

Rhyan is the player I'm most concerned about.  I think the left side will be solid, while the right side could be excellent. 

"Rock, sometime, when the team is up against it, and the breaks are beating the boys, tell 'em to go out there with all they got and win just one for the Uecker. I don't know where I'll be then, Rock but I'll know about it; and I'll be happy."

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6th Round: OT Pounds, QB Nussmeier, WR Caldwell?

"Rock, sometime, when the team is up against it, and the breaks are beating the boys, tell 'em to go out there with all they got and win just one for the Uecker. I don't know where I'll be then, Rock but I'll know about it; and I'll be happy."

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CB Jackson - I was just looking at the best CBs left, but I already posted my guess (likely story I know).

Well, we certainly got taller at CB... hopefully it is better too. 

"Rock, sometime, when the team is up against it, and the breaks are beating the boys, tell 'em to go out there with all they got and win just one for the Uecker. I don't know where I'll be then, Rock but I'll know about it; and I'll be happy."

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21 minutes ago, HarryDoyle said:

Another CB Domani Jackson

Another good athlete who can tackle at CB. 
If Gannon can coach those two up(Cisse and Jackson)... the secondary looks better. Healthy Parsons and Wyatt and you don't need as much from your CBs in coverage. 
 
 

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Here's the summary of Bears 2nd round pick Logan Jones on NFL.com:

Undersized but highly experienced with NFL-ready technique. Jones has a dense frame and short limbs. He has impressive initial quickness and stays firm inside the framework with his hands while his feet rarely stop pressing forward. Long nose tackles with quick hands are his kryptonite at the point of attack. Iowa’s scheme limited his true pass-set count, so proving he can anchor and play with gap range will be essential. He’s operational in gap schemes but better in zone, where his athleticism mitigates his lack of length. Jones’ age, traits and center-only value could limit his suitor count, but he has the polish to help early with the right fit.

Packers proceed to draft a DT with 34" arms and 11" hands...

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1 hour ago, CheezWizHed said:

As for all the churn about the OL, I'll add:

  1. LT: I think Morgan played pretty even with Walker in TC (maybe a tad better), but not enough to displace him as a starter.  Then Walker ended up playing worse than he did the prior year.  I'm not expecting Morgan to be an All-Pro, but I think LT is his best position.  I don't suspect any drop off from Walker with some potential upside. 
  2. LG: Banks has a history of two things: average RG play and injuries.  By the end of the season, his play was solid.  We will need depth to replace him in injury but like him or not... he is a starter quality player. 
  3. C: Rhyan was put in a bad situation last year and did "OK".  He certainly needs to improve...and I guess we will see if he can do that.  I wouldn't have given him a 3 year contract, but that will give him the first shot.  It was more telling that Monk never got a look there last year.  We just got our backup.
  4. RG: Belton was thrown in the middle of the season without playing G before.  He was playing very well by the end of the season.  I suspect he will be much better this year. 
  5. RT: Tom is the best player we have on the OL, so health is the only question here.  Kinnard did OK as a backup.  Another development player would make me feel better. 

Rhyan is the player I'm most concerned about.  I think the left side will be solid, while the right side could be excellent. 

The right side of the their line and the center are average enough or better. Not so sure Banks is a starter quality player even though the Packers paid him to be one. He might be, and it's a testament to how bad line play has become. As of right now, his signing was a bad one. I would probably agree that Morgan won't be worse than Walker, mostly because Walker was atrocious last season and it's a little disturbing to me that it wasn't obvious to them from day one that Morgan should have been in there. 

Is Morgan a bust? Idk. He's a huge question mark though at an extremely important position and that they did nothing to solidify it makes me think he's coming along just fine. 

He can have a bright future and be a bad pick as of this moment. There's no ROI through 2 years on a first round pick, at a position they are weak. It's not like Rodgers sitting behind Favre for 3 years. 

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17 minutes ago, HarryDoyle said:

Packers say eff that seventh round pick for K Trey Smack.

 Big leg and consistent. That's something. 

They certainly checked off a lot of needs. Just hope we can get someone who can consistently hit from ~45 out. 
 

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Can't say I'm a bit impressed.  Depth issues all over and they end up with 5 players and a kicker after going into the draft with 8 picks.

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2 hours ago, CheezWizHed said:

As for all the churn about the OL, I'll add:

  1. LT: I think Morgan played pretty even with Walker in TC (maybe a tad better), but not enough to displace him as a starter.  Then Walker ended up playing worse than he did the prior year.  I'm not expecting Morgan to be an All-Pro, but I think LT is his best position.  I don't suspect any drop off from Walker with some potential upside. 
  2. LG: Banks has a history of two things: average RG play and injuries.  By the end of the season, his play was solid.  We will need depth to replace him in injury but like him or not... he is a starter quality player. 
  3. C: Rhyan was put in a bad situation last year and did "OK".  He certainly needs to improve...and I guess we will see if he can do that.  I wouldn't have given him a 3 year contract, but that will give him the first shot.  It was more telling that Monk never got a look there last year.  We just got our backup.
  4. RG: Belton was thrown in the middle of the season without playing G before.  He was playing very well by the end of the season.  I suspect he will be much better this year. 
  5. RT: Tom is the best player we have on the OL, so health is the only question here.  Kinnard did OK as a backup.  Another development player would make me feel better. 

Rhyan is the player I'm most concerned about.  I think the left side will be solid, while the right side could be excellent. 

Tom is clearly the X factor. If he's healthy, it makes the whole OL better as he can handle just about any edge without doubling them. 

I do hope Morgan is an upgrade on Walker(not just '25 Walker, but '24 Walker). He was one of the guys I wanted in that draft, so... if those two positions are squared away, we should be good. 

Rhyan's deal had just 11M signing bonus, so you could get out of it after next year if he's not the guy. 

Kevin Zeitler is still unsigned and after the draft, you can bring him in and Belton can be your swing tackle. I think Belton is a better fit as a RT... though he was much better after that Lions game toward the end of the year. 

Maybe they like Glover? They usually have one guy they're trying to develop on the depth chart, but not sure who that is. It was much more obvious in the past. 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, JosephC said:

Can't say I'm a bit impressed.  Depth issues all over and they end up with 5 players and a kicker after going into the draft with 8 picks.

I'd be interested to see how all the guys Gute traded up to get ended up doing. Love obviously turned out ok but there are some real stinkers in there

 

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12 minutes ago, JosephC said:

Can't say I'm a bit impressed.  Depth issues all over and they end up with 5 players and a kicker after going into the draft with 8 picks.

That should tell you how much they thought of this draft class.

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25 minutes ago, JosephC said:

Can't say I'm a bit impressed.  Depth issues all over and they end up with 5 players and a kicker after going into the draft with 8 picks.

They gave up a 5th and a 7th to move up.  At best, they get a Dontavyion Wicks or Kingsley Enagbare out of the 5th.  7ths are 50/50 to even make the roster.

They have plenty of cap space to give guaranteed salary to some UDFAs who are just as good as the 7th they gave up.

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6 minutes ago, JosephC said:

Can't say I'm a bit impressed.  Depth issues all over and they end up with 5 players and a kicker after going into the draft with 8 picks.

It's a little underwhelming... but they added two athletic CBs who can play the run, another Edge who has some upside. I wasn't a big fan of McClellan, but the Packers liked him so, I'll defer to them. 
 

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GM Brian Gutekunst noted that McClellan was "sticking out like a sore thumb" at the top of their board. The team even considered taking him at #52 in the second round before selecting CB Brandon Cisse


Secondary now looks much better. 
Safety position is really strong. One of the better groups in the league. 
CB-Nixon, Cisse, Valentine, Jackson, St. Juste

Edge is really deep. 
DL-I'd still love Campbell or Cam Jordan(preferably Campbell). 

OL is the position I'd say is still the biggest "need." Another good RB would be nice. Maybe Lloyd can stay healthy. 

A run blocking TE?

 
Plus, this just seemed like a pretty mediocre draft. 

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