Padres (King) vs Brewers (Misiorowski): 5/13/26, 6:40pm

[adambr2]

I can understand more why Patrick to the bullpen has some legs. They’ve got to improve this pen. 

[Jim French Stepstool]

You can't defend Uribe obviously, but with the people due up in the 9th for SD I don't know if there's any manager who would've left Ashby in after the 8th. A good 'what if' would be if Misiorowski was able to stay in & pitch a scoreless 8th & the 9th then unfolded the same way, does Murphy go to Ashby for the Sheets AB? It sucks that you didn't get a swing from Bogaerts on the 3-2 because you easily could've. Both Uribe's walks in game one were much worse than the one tonite, but this one cost you. Baseball.

Hopefully tonite is a new beginning for Frelick & Rengifo. A couple guys who have an offensive history much brighter than their first 40 games. And great baserunning by Frelick to keep Machado from turning two.

The clamoring for Lara was, initially, premature IMO. But he had three more hits tonite, and while you can tell that Mitchell is going through a process & trying to improve the 'game within the game' regarding how he's putting ABs together, man is he struggling. I suspect the FO is at least in 'think about it' mode now.

 

[adambr2]

1 hour ago, LouisEly said:

Luis Lara has 168 PAs at AAA where he has looked very good.

Last year he had 612 PAs of .712 OPS in AA.  

Lots of guys have looked good with less than 200 PAs in AAA.  I'd like to see the sample size bigger before burning an option on him.

Last year he was 20 years old playing double A ball.

Sometimes young players get better.

[Jim French Stepstool]

36 minutes ago, ReverendBrewmeister said:

Missing with three uncompetitive pitches after getting a 1-2 count. That was very unclutch. 

I wouldn't say the 3-2 was uncompetitive. It's a location where you get a lot of swings w/two strikes in the count, pitchers get "low but over the plate" swings all the time. I would agree though that getting to 3-2 in the first place was a problem. And on 3-2 w/Sheets next you certainly don't want to have to rely on a chase. So bottom line, yeah, a failure.

[BruisedCrew]

36 minutes ago, Brian said:

I agree 100% you should never pull a guy that just pitched a great inning on 14 pitches. Stupid stupid stupid. (Murphy)

Just think about how absurd that comment is.

What you are saying is that if a team has an effective set up man and an effective closer, the closer should NEVER be brought in if the setup man gets through the 8th inning with only 14 pitches. 

[yourout]

1 minute ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

I wouldn't say the 3-2 was uncompetitive. It's a location where you get a lot of swings w/two strikes in the count, pitchers get "low but over the plate" swings all the time. I would agree though that getting to 3-2 in the first place was a problem. And on 3-2 w/Sheets next you certainly don't want to have to rely on a chase. So bottom line, yeah, a failure.

Especially when you have triple digit gas in the tank with movement

[Bulldogboy]

Wasting an outing like this from your ace really hurts.

[yourout]

10 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

Just think about how absurd that comment is.

What you are saying is that if a team has an effective set up man and an effective closer, the closer should NEVER be brought in if the setup man gets through the 8th inning with only 14 pitches. 

I wonder what manager is the best at thinking outside the box with relation to handling his bull pen? CC in his early brewer days before the rule changes seemed to do things in a less rigid manner. Having an Alpha closer makes the decision making more straight forward but right now we really don't have an Alpha. We have some decent Betas but I would not consider them in the top 4 or 5 in the MLB.

[Brian]

26 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

Just think about how absurd that comment is.

What you are saying is that if a team has an effective set up man and an effective closer, the closer should NEVER be brought in if the setup man gets through the 8th inning with only 14 pitches. 

Never is to strong a word but almost always because ....

Why would you want to bring in a new pitcher that may have an off day when you have a pitcher in there that had one of his best outings of the year and got the side out with only 14 pitches. Why???? And don't say because that's the way its done. Plus you burn up another arm.

[Bulldogboy]

My view is if you have Josh Hader as your closer it doesn't matter the situation you go to him. Uribe isn't an automatic guy imo yet. He hasn’t been consistent enough for me so I say bullpen by committee. Who coming up who is fresh etc. I don't think Murphy is good enough to do it but it's what should be happening. 

[BruisedCrew]

7 minutes ago, Brian said:

Never is to strong a word but almost always because ....

Why would you want to bring in a new pitcher that may that may have an off day when you have a pitcher in there that had one of his best outings of the year and got the side out with only 14 pitches. Why???? And don't say because that's the way its done. 

Maybe it’s done that way because maybe after throwing 14 high leverage pitches in the 8th inning, that pitcher might not be as effective after sitting down and throwing more. 

Or maybe the closer is generally a better and more reliable pitcher coming in fresh?

Do you think the Padres made a mistake tonight bringing in Miller after Adam got through the 8th on 13 pitches?

[adambr2]

9 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

Maybe it’s done that way because maybe after throwing 14 high leverage pitches in the 8th inning, that pitcher might not be as effective after sitting down and throwing more. 

Or maybe the closer is generally a better and more reliable pitcher coming in fresh?

Do you think the Padres made a mistake tonight bringing in Miller after Adam got through the 8th on 13 pitches?

Uribe isn’t Mason Miller.

[Brian]

11 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

Maybe it’s done that way because maybe after throwing 14 high leverage pitches in the 8th inning, that pitcher might not be as effective after sitting down and throwing more. 

Or maybe the closer is generally a better and more reliable pitcher coming in fresh?

Do you think the Padres made a mistake tonight bringing in Miller after Adam got through the 8th on 13 pitches?

1) Ashby used to be a starter he can handle more than 14 pitches.

2) Uribe is not more reliable and his #'s are really starting to suck as a closer. 

3) Adam pitched 14 times in the last 15 games, that is 1 reason you shouldn't pitch Adam

[BruisedCrew]

Just now, Brian said:

1) Ashby used to be a starter he can handle mor than 14 pitches.

2) Uribe is not more reliable and his #'s are starting to suck as a closer. 

3) Adam pitched 14 times in the last 15 games. 

You’re backpedaling pretty far from your original statement.

Sounds like you now agree that it isn’t NEVER or ALMOST ALWAYS but that it depends very heavily on the circumstances and the players involved. That should include what hitters are coming up for the opponent.
 

[Brian]

54 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

You’re backpedaling pretty far from your original statement.

Sounds like you now agree that it isn’t NEVER or ALMOST ALWAYS but that it depends very heavily on the circumstances and the players involved. That should include what hitters are coming up for the opponent.
 

You can never say always in baseball because things change on a daily basis, an inning basis and intra inning basis. You twisted my words. 

[thebruce44]

If Woody and QP get healthy, I think you have to move one of the young SPs to a high leverage bullpen spot.

Its not going to happen, but I'd love to see Sproat come out and throw gas.

[cragi]

17 minutes ago, thebruce44 said:

If Woody and QP get healthy, I think you have to move one of the young SPs to a high leverage bullpen spot.

Its not going to happen, but I'd love to see Sproat come out and throw gas.

I think Sproat is built for the pen also. similar game to Ashby and cant go deep into games

[HarryDoyle]

6 hours ago, BruisedCrew said:

Just think about how absurd that comment is.

What you are saying is that if a team has an effective set up man and an effective closer, the closer should NEVER be brought in if the setup man gets through the 8th inning with only 14 pitches. 

Uribe isn't an effective closer, at least not yet. No team we are playing we are leading by one run in the ninth is thinking "Oh no, here comes Uribe." Uribe has the stuff to be an effective closer but maybe not the mental makeup. If he had not pitched Tuesday, I wouldn't question the move, but he hasn't proven he can be relied on pitching two days in a row. Personally, I would've trusted Megill more if Murphy was going to pull Ashby.

[BruisedCrew]

6 hours ago, Brian said:

You can never say always in baseball because things change on a daily basis, an inning basis and intra inning basis. You twisted my words. 

No, I’m not twisting your words. 
 

 

[Samurai Bucky]

7 hours ago, HarryDoyle said:

Uribe isn't an effective closer, at least not yet. No team we are playing we are leading by one run in the ninth is thinking "Oh no, here comes Uribe." Uribe has the stuff to be an effective closer but maybe not the mental makeup. If he had not pitched Tuesday, I wouldn't question the move, but he hasn't proven he can be relied on pitching two days in a row. Personally, I would've trusted Megill more if Murphy was going to pull Ashby.

There are a few times where Murphy has had closers come in back-to-back and on the second day, they have failed.  Williams vs. the Royals a few years ago, McGill a couple of times.  I really wish the Crew had another quality setup guy who could step in as a closer if needed.

I'm sure it doesn't happen as much as I am thinking.  Some losses sting more than others.