Brewers (Harrison) vs Braves (Sale): 6/20/26, 3:10pm

[HarryDoyle]

3 minutes ago, nate82 said:

Were the Dodgers in the Brewers league last year when we swept them?

How did that work out for us in October?

[Bulldogboy]

Murphy won't really be held accountable by media because he's fun to talk hip soreness with.

[nate82]

Just now, HarryDoyle said:

How did that work out for us in October?

That was the point

[Bulldogboy]

7 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

Holy small sample size. Serious contending teams still aren’t starting a .157 hitter for three straight games, even if he had a randomly oscillating non-awful small stretch of hitting. 

I can't believe he wrote that but....

[yourout]

10 minutes ago, Nola Beery said:

All I know is that we lost another close one where neither our pitching nor hitting was good enough. Extremely disappointing. 😕😕😕

I'm guessing the record when scoring 3 or less is not good.

[adambr2]

Just now, nate82 said:

The Brewers swept the Dodgers in the playoffs?  Maybe the whiskey is diluting my brain her but wut?

No you’re right. They swept us. To the original point — when it mattered, we were not in their league. We did not look like we belonged on the same field. Because we did not address weaknesses on our roster during the season and came in with a playoff roster that could not hope to compete against them. 

[BruisedCrew]

This is the worst case scenario. 

Lose with the two best starters pitching strong games and now face 4 games (I assume they won’t pitch Misiorowski with 4 days rest on Wednesday) with back end starters and an unreliable bullpen.

Tomorrow the only hope is one of those “that’s baseball” specials, and then they’ll have to snap out of the scoring slump and outslug the Reds in the GAB bandbox. 

[Brock Beauchamp]

Can’t say I’m sorry I had to turn this one off in the sixth. 

[yourout]

1 minute ago, Bulldogboy said:

Murphy won't really be held accountable by media because he's fun to talk hip soreness with.

This one gets a 1/2 a Murphy for pulling Vaughn and trying to get cute with matching

[HarryDoyle]

Just now, adambr2 said:

No you’re right. They swept us. To the original point — when it mattered, we were not in their league. We did not look like we belonged on the same field. Because we did not address weaknesses on our roster during the season and came in with a playoff roster that could not hope to compete against them. 

And I would suspect the same will happen this year as well despite the organization's lip service of being serious about winning a World Series.

[adambr2]

4-6 in their last 10. Not a disaster, but not great baseball lately.  

[Bulldogboy]

Brewers are a good ballclub but when they play tight games against high caliber competition that doesn't give them extra outs they are just not going to win consistently imo. You just can't paper over the lack of depth in the lineup. Any lefty starter you have to play either Mitchell or Frelick which is bad. Then throw in Yelich and Ortiz you are already at 3 outs. 

[Brewcrew82]

15 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

They threw Miz and Harrison at them. Of course they weren’t going to lose by a bunch. But they still got outplayed by a better team.  They may lose by 8 tomorrow. 

I keep seeing this, but the Braves literally threw their ace at us today....

It's two good, relatively even matched teams competing against each other. Braves just won two 1 run games where they were the beneficiaries of some good fortune. 

[Bulldogboy]

Tried Ashby against Oakland late and same thing. Just leave him vulture win in the 6th inning. He doesn't have it late.

[adambr2]

2 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

I keep seeing this, but the Braves literally threw their ace at us today....

It's two good, relatively even matched teams competing against each other. 

I’ll give you two major differences.

1) their bullpen is flat out better. That was essentially the difference today. 

2) they don’t have to resort to a Joey Ortiz or Blake Perkins in their starting lineup when someone throws a LHP at them. 

[Brewcrew82]

7 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

I’ll give you two major differences.

1) their bullpen is flat out better. That was essentially the difference today. 

2) they don’t have to resort to a Joey Ortiz or Blake Perkins in their starting lineup when someone throws a LHP at them. 

It was a bloop and a well placed otherwise routine flyout. We're overreacting to a two game sample size here. 

Last two games, the Brewers have outhit the Braves significantly by xBA, which isn't a perfect measure, but a pretty good indication that you shouldn't take too much away from two close losses and that the Brewers have been quite competitive and the recipients of some bad luck. 

[adambr2]

3 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

It was a bloop and a well placed otherwise routine flyout. We're overreacting to a two game sample size here. 

Last two games, the Brewers have outhit the Braves significantly by xBA, which isn't a perfect measure, but a pretty good indication that you shouldn't take too much away from two close losses and that the Brewers have been quite competitive and the recipients of some bad luck. 

Two games which could very easily end up being the H2H tiebreaker for the number 2 seed and a first round bye down the line.

[yourout]

Offensively one of the things that I don't think gets discussed enough is the fact we have a completely toothless DH. 

Batting average is okay but that's one of the spots in the lineup that's supposed to be a thumper.

[Brewcrew82]

Just now, adambr2 said:

Two games which could very easily end up being the H2H tiebreaker for the number 2 seed and a first round bye down the line.

And it very well couldn't.....Two games is two games. 

[Bulldogboy]

Just now, yourout said:

Offensively one of the things that I don't think gets discussed enough is the fact we have a completely toothless DH. 

Batting average is okay but that's one of the spots in the lineup that's supposed to be a thumper.

Yelich is also unable to hit lefties at this point which hurts. If you are going to carry a dh only guy he should be a thumper with no problem hitting either way. 

[Brewcrew82]

1 minute ago, yourout said:

Offensively one of the things that I don't think gets discussed enough is the fact we have a completely toothless DH. 

Batting average is okay but that's one of the spots in the lineup that's supposed to be a thumper.

I wouldn't necessarily call a 123 wRC+ "toothless".

There's really only two elite full-time DH's in the game and they reside in Los Angeles and Houston. 

[adambr2]

Unpopular opinion: Pat Murphy isn’t special and doesn’t really do anything for the club as far as adding wins. He’s fine, and he’s a good players’ advocate type guy and this probably kind of evens out his deficiencies in tactical game decisions, I guess.

He's having similar success to what Counsell did in this era. And if they replaced him with Weeks tomorrow the Brewers would still win 90-100 games under Weeks. 

It’s just more of an organizational thing and the manager is just sort of the personality that happens to be along for the ride.

[Brian]

25 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

Unpopular opinion: Pat Murphy isn’t special and doesn’t really do anything for the club as far as adding wins. He’s fine, and he’s a good players’ advocate type guy and this probably kind of evens out his deficiencies in tactical game decisions, I guess.

Name one manager that is something special to you in the MLB, that doesn't have triple our payroll?  His biggest mistake is Murphy thinking Ashby is a good pitcher/closer with a 7.88 ERA last 8 innings pitched. 

[Brewcrew82]

 

[sveumrules]

12 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

He's having similar success to what Counsell did in this era.

Peak Counsell from 2018 to 2023 went 487 W - 384 L for a .559 W% that was 6th in MLB over those years.

The Brewers scored 3,961 runs (14th) and allowed 3,647 runs (6th) for a +314 run differential, or +0.36 runs per game.

Since Murhpy took over the Brewers are 235 W - 163 L for a .590 W% that is currently 2nd in MLB since 2024.

The Brewers have scored 1,971 runs (4th) and allowed 1,549 runs (1st) for a +422 run differential, or +1.06 runs per game.

Murphy's Brewers are +108 on run differential in 473 fewer games than Peak Counsell Brewers.

I'd say that's considerably greater success.