Packer's 2026-27 Season

[GAME05]

What's the O/U on team rushing yards next week? 40?

[CheezWizHed]

3 hours ago, homer said:

 

I used to read a bunch of articles from him, but his takes were so bad I gave up on AZ sports. 

If only we followed the Rams and signed a bunch of capable veteran FAs we would've won yest...er never mind.

 

[HarryDoyle]

This thing could get out of hand really quick. If we lose at least two of our next three games going into the Bears game, (and let's face it, there's a strong possibility we will) and the Bears come into our house and dog walk us like you know Ben Johnson wants to do, and the boo birds come flying from the Packer fans, followed by the Bears fans with their insecure little brother "Green Bay Sucks" chant, it's going to rank right up there as the lowest point in franchise history. And there's going to be some big humiliation felt by MLF, Gute, and the guy responsible for letting it get to that point, Policy.

[adambr2]

We don’t talk about how much Gute sucks at building an offensive line enough. It’s not for a lack of investment, either.

Anthony Belton was drafted in round 2 last year. He was supposed to be a rare NFL ready Gute pick. 

And he can’t beat out awful players like Donavan Jennings or Jacob Monk?

This is just one of many examples. We know how disappointing Banks and Morgan have been.

[OldSchoolSnapper]

1 hour ago, HarryDoyle said:

This thing could get out of hand really quick. If we lose at least two of our next three games going into the Bears game, (and let's face it, there's a strong possibility we will) and the Bears come into our house and dog walk us like you know Ben Johnson wants to do, and the boo birds come flying from the Packer fans, followed by the Bears fans with their insecure little brother "Green Bay Sucks" chant, it's going to rank right up there as the lowest point in franchise history. And there's going to be some big humiliation felt by MLF, Gute, and the guy responsible for letting it get to that point, Policy.

I'm not sure the 3 Musketeers are capable of feeling humiliated. Usually when people at those levels of an organization are this bad at their jobs, that's the case. 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

5 minutes ago, adambr2 said:

We don’t talk about how much Gute sucks at building an offensive line enough. It’s not for a lack of investment, either.

Anthony Belton was drafted in round 2 last year. He was supposed to be a rare NFL ready Gute pick. 

And he can’t beat out awful players like Donavan Jennings or Jacob Monk?

This is just one of many examples. We know how disappointing Banks and Morgan have been.

Oh, I was banging this drum in April during the draft and ever since. I was told it "means nothing" that their Day 1 and Day 2 picks from prior drafts aren't playing. 

 

[yourout]

Sean Payton is a douche nozzle of the highest order but he can coach circles around MLF

[adambr2]

LaFleur stated he wanted a two-score cushion because it "changes the whole complexion of the game".
 

I just love this quote about the decision yesterday. Sir, your team can’t protect a two score cushion to save your own life. How have your two score leads changed the complexion of anything?

[OldSchoolSnapper]

1 minute ago, adambr2 said:

LaFleur stated he wanted a two-score cushion because it "changes the whole complexion of the game".
 

I just love this quote about the decision yesterday. Sir, your team can’t protect a two score cushion to save your own life. How have your two score leads changed the complexion of anything?

He's not wrong on its face, but you're most likely correct that had they scored a touchdown and gone up 12, they would have blown it anyways because well, it's just their thing. 

For a team not based in Wisconsin, I still think it's the right call. Go up 12, time is waning, starts to force the opponent's hand as far as what kind of offense they can run and makes them more predictable/desperate.

But we suck, so none of that matters. 

[HarryDoyle]

27 minutes ago, yourout said:

Sean Payton is a douche nozzle of the highest order but he can coach circles around MLF

And I think he's overrated.

[CheezWizHed]

1 hour ago, adambr2 said:

We don’t talk about how much Gute sucks at building an offensive line enough. It’s not for a lack of investment, either.

Anthony Belton was drafted in round 2 last year. He was supposed to be a rare NFL ready Gute pick. 

And he can’t beat out awful players like Donavan Jennings or Jacob Monk?

This is just one of many examples. We know how disappointing Banks and Morgan have been.

I'm pretty sure no scouting report said that.  He was a massive physical specimen who needed technique work with his hands and feet.  But I'm stunned that he lost the G starting role to Monk and Jennings. Both of whom I'd predicted wouldn't make the team... maybe I should've been right. 

[LouisEly]

2 hours ago, yourout said:

Sean Payton is a douche nozzle of the highest order but he can coach circles around MLF

He only gets outscored 24-3 after the 1st quarter.

Calls screen passes on 3rd and 15 though.

[adambr2]

14 hours ago, Brewin said:

I do still see 10/11 wins and believe MLF is an above average head coach. The opening week of the NFL is prime territory for overreaction. I know your dislike of MLF goes back a while, and that's fine, we can agree to disagree. I guess time will tell as the story of season is along way from being written

I do disagree. I respect your opinion, but I don’t know how you come to your conclusions logically. 

To win 10-11 games, the Packers need to finish 10-6 or 11-5 from here. 

The offensive line is a major weakness. The running game is nonexistent. 

They don’t win in the trenches on either side of the ball. 

I think they have good offensive weapons as far as pass catchers with Golden, Watson and Kraft. 

I think Jordan Love is a good quarterback, but not a “put a mediocre team on my back” like his predecessor was, which is essentially what is necessary for this team to have success. 

Matt Lafleur is a questionable gameplanner (I’m going to stop short of saying good given some of his really strange decisions on his O-line rotation), and just simply not a good leader of men. Say what you will about Johnson and Campbell, but there’s a lot of guys who would run through a brick wall for those two on the Bears and Lions. Do you think there’s anyone on the Packers that goes into game day ready to run through a brick wall for Matt Lafleur? The fact that the very thought of that is comical is pretty telling. 

You need that little bit of edge and drive in this league when you have run into adversity, so it’s not a coincidence that they usually fall apart when adversity strikes. 

[adambr2]

Sean Payton is a douche, but it’s kind of funny trying to see people dunk on him when he literally played in the Super Bowl last year, a game which MLF has no familiarity with at all. 

Now, Payton probably hasn’t found a way to lose a game 39-22 that he at one point led 25-17, I’ll grant that. 

[HarryDoyle]

4 hours ago, adambr2 said:

Sean Payton is a douche, but it’s kind of funny trying to see people dunk on him when he literally played in the Super Bowl last year, a game which MLF has no familiarity with at all. 

Now, Payton probably hasn’t found a way to lose a game 39-22 that he at one point led 25-17, I’ll grant that. 

Sean Payton played in the Super Bowl last year?

[adambr2]

1 hour ago, HarryDoyle said:

Sean Payton played in the Super Bowl last year?

Oops. AFC Championship Game. I stand corrected. It was late. 🤣

[OldSchoolSnapper]

7 hours ago, adambr2 said:

 he literally played in the Super Bowl last year, a game which MLF has no familiarity with at all. 

Oh, Matt is familiar with the Super Bowl. 

[ReverendBrewmeister]

2 hours ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Oh, Matt is familiar with the Super Bowl. 

Ouch. Definitely hit the bullseye on that one. 

[Jopal78]

14 hours ago, adambr2 said:

We don’t talk about how much Gute sucks at building an offensive line enough. It’s not for a lack of investment, either.

Anthony Belton was drafted in round 2 last year. He was supposed to be a rare NFL ready Gute pick. 

And he can’t beat out awful players like Donavan Jennings or Jacob Monk?

This is just one of many examples. We know how disappointing Banks and Morgan have been.

They have made versatility a roster building feature instead of an emergency plan. Nearly all their lineman were LTs in college and moved elsewhere in the pros but then shifting them around for years instead of building a cohesive unit. 
 

Morgan: College Left Tackle to Left Guard to multiple spots back to LT.

Belton: College LT to LG, to RG to RT

Rhyan: College LT to G to Center

Monk: College Guard to Center to Guard. 

Jennings: College LT to LG
 

And  it does defy logic: Rhyan was  on the roster bubble for years as  a guard, he gets moved to center in an emergency and gets a contract extension. Monk was on the roster bubble, unable to get on the field as C now is the starting RG.

Even more unbelievably for a team that views themselves as a Super Bowl contender they have a 5th rounder in Monk with one game of experience at RG, Donovan Jennings a UFDA with six snaps experience in the NFL at LG while Belton, a 2nd round pick, their biggest lineman and with multiple NFL starts at guard buried on the bench. next to him on the bench was Jagur Burton an actual college guard. 
 

Its poor roster construction and even stranger coaching decisions 
 

 

 

[OldSchoolSnapper]

Meh, that is hardly a rarity in the NFL. Guys play a different position in the NFL than college regularly, the list of current examples is endless.

Peter Skoronski started all 33 of his college games at LT, was a unanimous first-team All-American there, got drafted 11th overall, and Tennessee immediately made him a guard.

Matt Goncalves was a tackle his entire life, and Indianapolis converted him to RG. 

Your best OL is almost always going to play T in college. The entire line isn't going to make the NFL, just the best ones. Most of them won't be good enough to be an NFL LT, they get shoved into another spot. It's been standard for a long time to get your best linemen on the field, and make them learn the position accordingly. Your RG on a college team is unlikely to make the NFL, but an NFL team still needs to place a RG.

The real issue isn't nearly as complicated as that. They are simply drafting bad players. They could be coaching them poorly I guess, but making them switch positions is basic life across the league.

[Jopal78]

1 hour ago, OldSchoolSnapper said:

Meh, that is hardly a rarity in the NFL. Guys play a different position in the NFL than college regularly, the list of current examples is endless.

Peter Skoronski started all 33 of his college games at LT, was a unanimous first-team All-American there, got drafted 11th overall, and Tennessee immediately made him a guard.

Matt Goncalves was a tackle his entire life, and Indianapolis converted him to RG. 

Your best OL is almost always going to play T in college. The entire line isn't going to make the NFL, just the best ones. Most of them won't be good enough to be an NFL LT, they get shoved into another spot. It's been standard for a long time to get your best linemen on the field, and make them learn the position accordingly. Your RG on a college team is unlikely to make the NFL, but an NFL team still needs to place a RG.

The real issue isn't nearly as complicated as that. They are simply drafting bad players. They could be coaching them poorly I guess, but making them switch positions is basic life across the league.

Right the college LT is usually the best athlete making the switch possible. But the problem is the Packers don’t take the college LT and stick them at LG and leave them. They have them move around the line, where each position has different footwork, sight lines and the hand placement changes. Different muscle memory switching from the left side to right side. 
 

Who knows if they’ve drafted good players, they prioritized an assembling a Swiss Army knife collection, than a single unit where each player plays to their strengths with and together as a unit. 
 

Maybe Jordan Morgan will be a terrific LT. But they spent two years moving him around so half way through his rookie contract they don’t know what they have yet. Belton shaking up the same way.

[adambr2]

Matt had a pretty good PC yesterday and was able to break down the things that went wrong on Sunday. When I watched it, I thought of the commercial where a bank is getting robbed and the security guard just stands there as people scream and ask him why he’s not doing anything. 

He says “oh I’m not a security guard, just a security monitor. I only tell you if there’s a robbery.”

”There’s a robbery.”

[HarryDoyle]

3 hours ago, adambr2 said:

Matt had a pretty good PC yesterday and was able to break down the things that went wrong on Sunday. When I watched it, I thought of the commercial where a bank is getting robbed and the security guard just stands there as people scream and ask him why he’s not doing anything. 

He says “oh I’m not a security guard, just a security monitor. I only tell you if there’s a robbery.”

”There’s a robbery.”

Every time MLF cashes his paycheck.

[HarryDoyle]

 

[HarveysWBs]

When I look at this team, all I see is pain. I don’t even think they “suck.”  Would that that were true! The true pain isn’t in sucking. No, the Packers are worse than that, friends. They’re tragic.

To suck in sports could actually be generative. It could provide clarity, draft capital, or the conviction to change. At the very least, a state of “suck” can be comedic.

The Packers don’t truly suck, and haven’t for decades. Most of the time, they’re fatally flawed, which is the nature of all tragedy. Sometimes the flaw waits like an o-ring on Apollo 13, ready to hit you from nowhere when you least expect it (Bostick in Seattle). Sometimes the flaws are in plain sight for a year or more (the current offensive line). But inevitably the team will maintain a general baseline competence mixed with just enough brilliance (usually from the passing game, or maybe a hall of famer on defense) to prop up at least a feeble justification for staying the course. And so, like Sisyphus, we’ll keep rolling the cursed boulder up the hill again.

To anyone who thinks the bottom is going to fall out on this team, I can only say you haven’t been paying attention. We’re really better, and so much worse, than that. I want another Super Bowl this year, but failing that, I want three wins or less. Nothing is going to change otherwise.

But we’ll get neither glory or suck: nine or ten wins, maybe eleven if it breaks right, a glimpse of potential, followed by humiliation. Then the ritual gaslighting in the offseason.

Take up your boulder and push.