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You can quibble around the edges but that is a fair return for Acuna given that he is signed for only $17m a year. He makes general sense for the Brewers as a target since his salary would fit within budget constraints. I just don't think Atlanta believes that they need to to do a full teardown. And a package built around an 18 year old means you don't think next year is your year either. I think Atlanta will think this year was more due to bad luck than a lack of talent and run it back.

The other pitcher close to deserving of an All Star slot was just sent down. Turang and Frelick have to deal with the Soto snub and the fact that even a down half really shouldn't keep Betts out of from the All Star game.

He has a wRC+ of 87 over the past 14 days which by Brewerfan end date picking means he'll be an All Star by August.

Brewers are going to go with an All In "Vote Collins" campaign. Or not demote Patrick. Or bring back Henderson. Or Kim just keeps hitting. The Rookie class doesn't look terrible to me, there just isn't an MVP level season happening.

I don't doubt the exact timing was influenced by Super 2 concerns, but that was more well "let's wait another week" instead of "he should be up in April but we'll keep him down until June". Misiorowski still has inning concerns and was having serious control issues last year. Something clicked this season. There is still a chance he get's sent down for a bit in August to keep him stretched out but with severe limits on how long he pitches.

Yeah, its almost been a year since that happened.

Yes he would. There is a very good chance that the Brewers DFA him at the end of the year and he goes unclaimed. He is about to enter his age 27 season without having accumulated a full season of PAs. Sure he he has 3 years of control left but that doesn't matter if he can't play. If he is set to miss all of next year, no one wants him accruing service time when no one knows if he even can play the the major league level. Aside from his injuries, he K rate is a large warning sign. But he has yet to play enough to say if that is just who he is or a sign that in time major league pitchers will dissect his swing.

Doug Davis was way better than you think.

MLB changed the rules making it much easier for minority owners to sell their shares. So you'll never here that happening.

Ortiz's defense isn't great. More like average. But Zamora doesn't project to be a real improvement offensively. A Zamora promotion is more "we've run out ideas (or patience)" move than a solution.

Quintanta is not brining back Zazueta. Maybe Wrobleski given his age and need to be on a 40 man roster. Going for a younger guy and you are looking at a Linan.

One player who if healthy that makes a lot of sense is Moncada. The "if healthy" is doing a lot, but he is on a one year contract with little cost and the Brewers could easily afford the prospect cost to acquire him.

I mean I too would listen for offers on a 4th Ofer playing above his long term numbers who is most likely going to be non-tendered this winter.

The Brewers are basically sending all of Civale's salary along with him, part in cash and part in taking back Vaughn's contract. Similar in how the Brewers sent part of Hader's salary along with him when they took back Lamet.

All of this talk about Vaughn reminds me of all the talk Lamet in the Hader trade. Like there was a plan or something besides letting him go. Its just a way to send money without involving the commissioner's office.

Find his swing again? Guy never had a swing.

Quintana is much older and his FB collapsed has fallen off considerably. Right now he's average 90 mph which is a fall from an already fallen off 90.7 last year. Civale still has a 92 mph fastball and decent K/9 numbers. Not saying he is ensured 2 years, but a getting k rate above 8 will mean someone will look closely.

I too was not expecting a 1B who hits like Ortiz. Nothing would have been better.

As a backend starter Civale could get a 2 yr $15m contract. As a swingman he's looking at a Colin Rea type contract of 1 yr/$5million.

Maybe the Brewers get lucky and Detroit is willing to take him to replace Jobe to fill in innings.

Mears had one more year before FA and was 27 versus a 31 year old Megill.

Can we stop with this "woe is me" crap? Small markets do not get overlooked in MVP and Cy Young voting.

Civale isn't going to turn into SS/3b unless he does that by freeing money because the Brewers are at their salary limit. The SP depth that will add someone comes in the form of Crow or Wichrowski.

Fangraphs has data with wRC+ for that team. Players with greater than 300 PAs: Name Team G PA HR R RBI SB wRC+ Richie Sexson MIL 157 652 29 86 102 0 125.9809358 José Hernández MIL 152 582 24 72 73 3 118.6010597 Matt Stairs MIL 107 315 16 41 41 2 115.8978079 Jeffrey Hammonds MIL 128 510 9 47 41 4 93.04584964 Eric Young Sr. MIL 138 553 3 57 28 31 88.86027045 Alex Sanchez MIL 112 435 1 55 33 37 87.79320754 Ronnie Belliard MIL 104 317 3 30 26 2 41.843211 So when compared to current qualified players: Name Team G PA HR R RBI SB wRC+ Rhys Hoskins MIL 63 243 9 21 36 2 120.7287315 Sal Frelick MIL 64 253 4 25 21 12 112.2326385 Christian Yelich MIL 64 272 13 34 41 10 106.4198555 Brice Turang MIL 64 275 4 43 25 15 101.6128029 William Contreras MIL 62 264 5 35 27 5 99.42435652 Jackson Chourio MIL 66 296 10 39 37 13 95.59571267 Joey Ortiz MIL 65 226 2 23 9 6 44.81681666 The two teams are similar. Belliard was limited to 317 PAs for the season. Ortiz is on pace to smash that.

The Brewers did not want Hoskins for $34 million. They were hoping for $16 million for one year of 2-3 wins and then Hoskins leaves for a better deal elsewhere.