Last season the Brewers got starts from: Matt Garza, Junior Guerra, Paolo Espino, Tommy Milone, Brandon Woodruff, Wily Peralta. These are guys I would consider our "5th" starter a season ago when you leave Nelson, Anderson, Davies and Suter in the top four spots. The combined stats of these guys is the following: Starts: 57 (over a third of the games, these turds were taking the ball for us. Gross) Record: 15-20 ERA: 5.64 Now... Do we not think a guy like Chacin could move the needle and have gotten us another win last season that we needed to make the post season? The more guys we sign like Chacin, possibly Gallardo, and whoever else comes next means we hopefully won't have starts like guys I listed above. And yes, I realize I included Woodruff in there but he just wasn't that good last season. Hit the wall most would say. Agree with everything above except your final point on Woodruff. Prior to his final start where he was donkey slapped he was posting a 1.23 whip, 2.9 BB9, 8.2 H9, 7.1 K9, 3.76 ERA through first 7 starts I stand corrected. Good find. Well that bolds even better for this upcoming season if we are looking at the following: 1. Anderson 2. Davies 3. Chacin 4. Suter 5. Woodruff