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  1. I read the passan and rosenthal articles this morning. Not a ton extra to glean from the Brewers perspective. Really only the timing of the trade-tigers wanting to make sure they got their preferred deal before teams had a chance to pivot to Kirby. I don’t think this is some grand conspiracy. I think it’s totally possible the Brewers feel they offered better packages than the dodgers, but the tigers own evaluation was that the dodgers package was better. I did find it interesting that the Brewers felt only Skubal, Gausman, and May were viable playoff starters. Notably Holmes, Mize, and Ray were also dealt and have sparkly surface stats. im still disappointed we didn’t land Skubal and that’s compounded by the dodgers trading for him, but I’m satisfied with the mindset the Brewers had and satisfied with the pivot to May.
  2. Then please explain to me why I get frustrated when we lose a game to the Angels on a Sunday afternoon in August? /s
  3. Drohan has been a lock for 6 effective innings recently. Hopefully we bust out the bats tonight and can have Wilson toss a few innings. Running with a 6 man rotation in this long stretch without an off day is going to be a challenge. I do imagine that at some point during this stretch they’ll need to make a roster move to bring in a fresh arm. Or, they send either gasser or drohan to the pen after their starts against the Twins. fresh arm options: Kuhnel: started a rehab assignment 8/2 crow, Gordon, Rom could all be recalled any time. koenig? That ship has probably sailed stallings and anderson both need to be down for a while since they just got optioned.
  4. I agree with other posters, Peña may be several years out yet. Not every prospect is going to be an mlb regular at 20-21 years old. He’s far enough away that I’m not really concerned with where he fits into the picture yet. Maybe the Nationals revisit trading Wood or Abrams and the Brewers take a swing there and Peña is part of that package. Or maybe he spends 2027 in aa, 2028 in aaa, and fits in at 2b to start 2029 if Turang is traded entering his final year of team control. Maybe he winds up in the OF. Lots of paths and several years for this situation to play out. I like Adams enough to add him to the 40 man this off-season. I don’t think he has enough power to be an everyday starter at first base. Maybe the brewers like his defense enough at 3rd base that he could fit as a CI bench piece? I’m not really “clearing space” for him though. crow is probably 7th or 8th on the SP depth chart heading into the off season (depending on the Priester time line). As we have seen this season, that’s probably going to translate into 7-10 starts, some relief appearances, and some AAA time too. Totally a valuable and necessary role. No need to overthink this one.
  5. Ya I’m not real on board with Hamilton playing essentially the strong side of the platoon right now. I knows it’s only a couple weeks, but he’s .211/.318/.263 since coming back from the IL. Joey has been pretty good for about 2 months now and I think we’d all agree his defense is a real asset at third. joey could totally go back to slumping hard any day now, but that’s not right now. I’d prefer to see Joey in there daily right now.
  6. Ya if your expectation was Skubal, this is certainly disappointing. im disappointed we didn’t get Skubal, but I do think the moves we made today will help weather the rest of the regular season and there’s a decent chance the 3 pitchers we got all make the playoff roster.
  7. My thought process was that Frias was the high upside guy with massive exit velocities, but still a ways off. Might be a guy, but could also end up a bust. ragsdale more of a high floor guy. Having a massive year. Similar timeline as Adamczewski and Payne, but probably the lesser prospect of the group. Felt lower ceiling and more redundant than Frias. who knows though. I won’t claim to be an expert. I just read the scouting reports and occasionally tune into a game.
  8. Seems like a pretty reasonable low cost trade. Not exciting, but some middle relief reinforcements were needed.
  9. Ya that last point is the real kicker. It’s pretty clear the Brewers internal evaluation of Frias isn’t as high as say the me just put out there by Fangraphs last week. that’s what I need to remind myself of. The brewers are good at this and they know more than I do or anyone who is putting out publicly available prospect evaluations.
  10. Yup, this is pretty painful. I’m ok with trading away Ragsdale. Frias is a player I would’ve wanted to keep. That’s a tough one.
  11. At first glance I like this move better than I thought I would when looking at names over the last month or so. I probably discounted it thinking the cardinals wouldn’t sell, but they’ve been kinda stinky lately so it’s not surprising to see them sell off some players. we even traded for an injured pitcher, a brewers time honored tradition. im sure the players we gave up will sting a little bit.
  12. As much as the rational fan in me thought “hey skubal is the only guy worth trading meaningful prospects for and now that our biggest competitor added him instead we might as well sit this one out”… I’m getting antsy. Give me an injured pitcher to dream on at least. 😂
  13. Even if it was inevitable, it’s hard for me to not feel disappointed. I guess I prefer him going to the Dodgers than the Braves, Cubs, or Phillies. We will still have a tough path to even see a match up with LA.
  14. I understand where you’re coming from. I even wanted the brewers to adopt the snell/Glasnow strategy with woodruff this year. Just get him to the playoffs healthy. but the bigger issue is that they’re able to pay $100m for ohtani, snell, and Glasnow and not need them to contribute to the regular season rotation because they’re so deep and they have very little competition in their division.
  15. I think he'll be remembered fondly as a solid role player. He really filled in admirably during Mitchell IL stints. I hope he can hit a little bit more for Cleveland and stick around the league for a few more years.
  16. I think this is the main motivation for the move. maybe they also think they could turn Naylor around a little bit, but I think that’s secondary to having a 3rd healthy catcher on the 40 man they can stash in AAA. as for Yoho, it was pretty clear the Brewers weren’t quite as enamored with him as us fans. Too bad we never saw him get a long term shot. I hope he finds success with Cleveland. The other 2 guys in the trade don’t mean much.
  17. This might be a reasonable proposal. Obviously Peña is a well regarded prospect across the board. Positional fit and timing of big league readiness possibly make him redundant and/or far enough away from his debut that I could stomach his inclusion. Fischer is a bit of a boom/bust prospect. Prodigious power, but scary whiff rate. I don’t mind trading him, but I kinda feel like he’s undervalued here. ragsdale, I could live with selling high on him. He’s having a great season and is possibly positionally redundant if he’s on a similar timeline as Adamczewski. moneys… I don’t mind in theory trading this type of prospect, I just don’t want to trade away this particular lottery ticket. overall, this package would hurt. If you subbed out Fischer and added Adams or Burke I think I’d be ok.
  18. https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/what-kind-of-mlb-prospect-return-could-the-tigers-expect-for-tarik-skubal/# just food for thought: similar trade deadline deals since the CC trade. Obviously some differentiating factors between these trades and a theoretical Skubal trade. If we were putting together a comparable package with our current player group you’re probably looking at something like Peña + 2-3 other interesting prospects.
  19. TBF, minor leaguers in general are running wild. Freaking Blake Burke has 25 steals lol. That certainly isn’t going to translate to being a SB threat in the bigs. But I agree with the overall point that Quero is likely expendable.
  20. I think this is a totally reasonable perspective. And maybe actually shifted my thought process on pursuing him. this is a unique situation that rarely ever comes up. One of the best 3-4 SP in all of baseball is available and we likely have the players to get a deal done. Literally any team can use an ace level pitcher. Skubal is the type of player who could single handedly increase our odds of winning a World Series due to his role and skill. im not expecting it to happen and I’ve even said in other comments that I probably wouldn’t want to give up what it would take to get him. However, as the deadline draws nearer and the likelihood of Skubal being traded increased… I can’t help but throw caution to the wind and change my tune of wanting to acquire him.
  21. Ok perfect. Good to hear it’s just bumping everyone back a day. if we make some moves, Pannone is DFA fodder here after his start, but at least he got a call up and a big league paycheck
  22. Since stallings is the corresponding move I’m hopeful that there’s no major injury concern with Drohan. I’m sure we will learn more before the game.
  23. I actually think the best we can hope for is Detroit hanging on to him and Mize and those guys not getting traded to a different contender. If we face Detroit in the World Series I’ll live with it 😏
  24. I wouldn’t trade Made. I probably wouldn’t trade Peña. I have a prospect crush on Adamczewski and would prefer to keep him. The rest of the prospects yet to make their debut I could probably be convinced individually are worth trading for Skubal. I don’t want to trade Henderson even though I understand the injury risk may be higher on him than our other pre-arb starters. I know you have to give something to get something, but I’m not sure the Brewers would be willing to give up a good enough centerpiece to make a deal. And my message board GM feeling is that I wouldn’t either.
  25. I dont agree that Myers and Sproat were a wash in trade value at the time of the trade. from last year, the Dustin may trade may be a decent comp for a Freddy package. The Res Sox gave up Tibbs who has obviously had some helium since the trade, but he was still a pretty legitimate prospect at the time of the deal. I think if we end up trading for Freddy, the reaction on BF is going to be pretty negative on what it took to bring him back. personally, don’t think I’d want him back at this point. I just don’t think a Jett/Burke package is that bad.
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