Brewcrew82

My entire perspective on Attanasio is something this: We're the literal smallest market in the game. We spent like it during the Selig-Prieb years. We haven't since Attanasio took over ownership in 2005. Further, we had a losing record and two total postseason appearances in the three and a half decades pre-Attanasio. With Attanasio overseeing things the last eighteen years, we have a winning record and seven postseason appearances, including two LCS appearances where we were a game or two from the WS. Overall, I really struggle to understand the hate directed towards Attanasio by a significant portion of the fanbase. If anything, he's gotten better as an owner, by meddling less in baseball operations and deferring to minds like Stearns and Arnold. Sure, we haven't won a WS. But only one comparable market team has won one this century. And it took two large market-teams, the Cubs and Red Sox, almost a combined two centuries to win a WS. If Attanasio were to sell the team like some want, it would more likely than not imo be to someone who returns spending to Selig-Prieb levels or, in the alternative, decides to move the team to a more profitable market. Instead, we're getting a bunch of bites at the apple in an era where 80 win teams are routinely making and even winning the WS. If you can find an owner who is 100% committed to keeping the team in MKE and is willing to pull a Seidler over multiple seasons in pursuit of a WS, then I'll be the first to sign up. In the meantime, I'll happily stick with MA.

It's already 2024 in most parts of the world, right? Made this post in response to someone on a different thread, but thought it was worth a broader discussion. Assuming Santana is indeed reupped soon, here's what we could be looking at, with Steamer projected wRC+: 1) Frelick LF (projected 103 wRC+) 2) Contreras C (projected 120 wRC+) 3) Yelich DH (projected 116 wRC+) 4) Adames SS (projected 103 wRC+) 5) Santana 1B (projected 104 wRC+) 6) Black 3B (projected 104 wRC+) 7) Chourio CF (projected 93 wRC+*a pretty conservative projection, with the upside for more obviously*) 8 Mitchell/Wiemer RF (GM career 117 wRC+ vs. RHP; JW career 115 wRC+ vs. LHP) 9 Turang/Monasterio 2B (BT projected 88 wRC+; AM career 118 wRC+ vs. LHP) Overall, that's an average to above average lineup, with the upside to be even better depending on how some of these young guys progress (possibility Chourio starts off like Acuna, Tatis, JRod, Carroll). Definitely better than what we ran out in the first half last year. And would likely remain one of the top 5 defenses in the game (could be the best defensive OF in the game). Also, stacks up pretty well with our counterparts in the NL Central. Can see why the team may elect to hold Burnes, Adames, Williams, etc, if they don't get a compelling enough offer. I think we could still use a right-handed bopper in the Corner IF/DH, and wouldn't be opposed to a Soler signing or even a Donaldson reunion. Hoskins is the dream, but that seems a long-shot.

Really hoping for a Mitchell-Wiemer platoon in RF. Works well defensively with Frelick in LF and Chourio presumably in CF. So potentially: 1) Frelick (104 projected wRC+) LF 2) Contreras C (120 wRC+) 3) Yelich DH (116 wRC+) 4) Adames SS (103 wRC+) 5) Santana 1B (104 wRC+) 6) Black 3B (104 wRC+) 7) Chourio CF (93 wRC+*a conservative projection*) 8) Mitchell/Wiemer RF (GM career 117 wRC+ vs RHP, JW career 115 wRC+ vs. LHP) 9) Turang 2B (88 wRC+) That's an average to above average lineup that has the upside to be even better and would remain one of the best five or so defenses in the game. Why they traded a soon to be 30 year old Tyrone Taylor.... Of course, I wouldn't fight the idea of adding Hoskins to this bunch, however unlikely that is.... One name that I wouldn't be opposed to reuniting with is Josh Donaldson to hit against LHP. He seemed to blend in real well with this group, and I think we could use one more veteran, right-handed option in the IF with Black and Turang. I'm not a believer in Monasterio going forward.

Because there would have been major service time ramifications....And they were considering it, they just weren't ready to go there without an extension in place.

Yep.

I'm beginning to think it's less and less likely that Burnes is traded before the season between the Winter Meetings reports and the Dodgers getting Yamamoto, the Braves getting Sale, etc....Then you've got the Orioles who are prospect hoarders and are more likely to go after Cease or a different controllable arm. Primary potential suitors at this point are the Phillies and the Yankees. Remains to be seen if they're willing to offer up what we're lookin for.

You're right in a sense, but their rotation is looking full right now with Strider, Fried, Morton, Sale, Elder, AJSS. Lessens their desperation level to part with the guys it'd take to get Burnes.

You can probably take the Braves out of the bidding for Burnes now, too. Shame cause I really like their pitching prospects.

True. Pretty much since Garza and Lohse, so since before the current regime. Only thought it made sense if they traded Burnes and wanted a TOR pitcher (arguable) to replace him and show the fans they still wanted to seriously contend this year.

Always thought Giolito made some sense if we traded Burnes. Alas....

A 4.1 WAR definitely helps the team, regardless of whether it's in LF or at DH.

I'd rather have Arias than Lombard. Make an upside play alongside Pratt. Guy could be a top 20/10 prospect a year from now.

Quero #3 behind Basallo and Salas. https://www.justbaseball.com/prospects/just-baseballs-top-10-catching-prospects-for-2024/

I don't have much interest in Schmidt being any part of a deal. He's an Adrian Houser back-end type, which is valuable in the aggregate due to the amount of control, but will still eat away at the rest of the return. Same idea with Peraza. I'd definitely want Hampton back. Give me Arias and his upside, too. Throw in another pitcher, and I'd do it. A shame they gave up Thorpe in the Soto deal. I'm really high on him.

As far as your question, I don't see it happening. If there's one area that the Brewers have proven they can be good-to-elite and not expend significant resources it's in the late innings. Even Devin Williams looks to be on his way out sometime within the next year, with Uribe being groomed to take over for him.

I just happened to notice you making the same type of statement you persistently go after me for on this forum when I am not even addressing you or interacting with you in any way. I now see it's a different story when someone else is doing it to you. I have not reported you once. lol.

How do you know this? We had major success with him leading the back-end of the pen. He could very well miss Milwaukee and want to come back. You don't know for sure, so why say this?

What an incredible waste of talent. If only it could be transported to a better person.

I would have done this deal.

If the Twins aren't going to give up Lee, I'd take a package of Rodriguez, Festa, Raya, and Miranda, despite our glut of OFers. I'd be all for a future Chourio, Rodriguez, and Wilken middle of the order. Festa and Raya are the type of arms the Brewers value and have had success with. Miranda has been squeezed out of the Twins IF picture with Lewis' emergence, but would give the Brewers much needed controllable depth in the corners to insert onto the major league roster and likely the OD lineup. Thoughts, @Brock Beauchamp?

I expect we’ll hear an announcement about the Brewers resigning Carlos Santana to a one year deal shortly after the holiday.

That’s your opinion. You realize you come across as something yourself when you feel the need to do this with every single one of my posts, including just yesterday when I simply shared an article (trying to figure out how that’s about phrasing or knowing it all)? Unfortunately, I can’t exactly spell it out for you as it would get filtered by the site. If you disagree with my opinion, just say so and present evidence why you think I’m wrong. I can take it, and I’m not always right. No need for the other stuff. Simple as that.

Seriously. What is your problem when you’re doing this to every one of my posts. Please knock it off. There’s literally evidence throughout his tenure going back to the Rays which says it’s not really Friedman’s style to give up prospects for one year rentals. They were only willing to give up Pepiot if Glasnow agreed to an extension.

Or the fact that Cartaya is not good.