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Yeah, that's hard to see exactly where the ball is. I like the idea of putting a GPS chip in the ball so they know EXACTLY where the ball was done(it's been talked about but IDK how it may impact the ball). This Defensive front, particularly WYATT, Clark, Brooks and Slaton, they've been just outstanding!

I guess it should be better for the Packers. I go back to the QB and arm strength. Love has better arm strength than Purdy. This has been SF's worst run-blocking OL(still ranked 10th). It's hard to say. SF throws it down the field even more than we do, but they're just as capable of throwing WR screens to Deebo or McCaffery(maybe a shot for Jaire to jump one?). I think it'll come down to Wyatt, Brooks, Slaton all playing well along with Kenny Clark and hopefully Gary can duplicate his last playoff performance vs SF. I think it was 3 sacks, at least 1 FF.

Even when we had a lot of incompletions, it was because of the Packers' youth and a lot of downfield passing. Though to be fair, the 49ers "dink and dunk," offense is a pretty big misnomer as well. Purdy is #1 in Air yards per pass. But Love's proven his accuracy is not just good, it's elite. The wind and rain is going to hurt anyone's accuracy. BUT, I'll take the QB with the stronger arm to cut through the elements. We've got that.

San Fran employs a FB...and they employ him exceptionally well. He's a play maker for that team. He's also more of an H-Back than a FB IMO, but whatever... That isn't and wasn't why I said I thought SF had more weapons. I don't think any team in the NFL has more weapons than SF. Miami may have been close, but they don't have the RB/TE combo. Are we talking about other teams needing to account for a player or who's the better "weapon" right now? Yes, SF will have to game plan for Musgrave, Kraft...even Deguara. Why? Becauase they have to game plan for everyone...and they do. Still, George Kittle is a HOF TE, one of the best ever, an elite blocker and pass catcher and he's just simply better at this point. Doesn't mean we can't win. I just do not see how you can say the Packers have better weapons than SF. You're saying the Packers have the best weapons in the NFL and it's not particularly close. Deebo is their #2 WRer also. Brandon Ayiuk....who I actually believe we were trading up for when we picked Love...in what could be one of the great all-time draft day stories if true, he's become a true #1. By who? Aaron Jones is AWESOME. He's a great player. He's one of the most unselfish players. He took less money to stay in GB. He took a paycut after a good year to come BACK to GB. It's Jones and Ahman Green for the best back since the Lombardi era IMO. McCaffery is the best RB in the NFL though and he's an elite receiver. You think I'm discounting the Packers here? I'm not. This is about the 49ers and the challenge we face. A-You're strangly obsessed with this FB thing. And we do...we play with Degurara. We drafted him HOPING he'd be able to do the things Juice does in San Fran. He hasn't been able to. But he's effectively a FB. Also, just to be clear, we ran the ball more the last three years with Rodgers than we did this year. So this whole "Rodgers took the ball out of Jones hands," it's not only irrelevant IMO to this discussion, but it's become a bit too fashionable to trash Rodgers on the field performance while in GB.

No shot. Weapons? The Packers offense is incredibly young and talented...but SF has 5 players who are among the best at their positions. Future rankings...eh, maybe. Young talent, no question. Weapons right now? You're grossly underestimating the Niners. First I'll start by saying I think Purdy is a nice QB. Not a great QB. I think Cousins is a better QB. He's more mobile, but he's not as talented as the top 10-14 QBs in the NFL. It's his talent and the scheme that make him look so damn good. They're better at TE. Kittle is the best TE in the NFL. Trent Williams, best LT. McCaffery, best RB. Brandon Aiyuk, an AP WRer. Deebo, one of the most dangerous playmakers in the game. They can line up Deebo in the backfield and run as effectively as any RB, McCaffery can lineup at the X and be the best WRer on the field. That's not accounting for Kyle Juszcyk an AP FB this year and he's been named to 8 straight pro-bowls. These are proven WRers, TEs...and they've got depth at RB. Mitchell is a change of pace back and similar to Mosert with elite speed. I love the Packers YOUNG weapons, I think they're a piece or two away from becoming great...but they are young weapons. It's nice getting a big game from Doubs after having 0 catches the previous game or having Wicks have such a surprisingly good rookie year or Kraft coming in and adding a physical style of run after the catch while Musgrave gets down the seem...but combined, they produced about 70% of what Kittle did this year. SF has two WRers in their prime who've are #1's or in Deebo's case, if you want to argue he's not a true #1 X WRer, that's fine, he's a perfect player in that scheme. Where we can get San Fran is their OL. Namely their IOL. Clark, Wyatt and Slaton should be able to feat and the pass rushers(minus Slaton, add Brooks and to a degree Wooden) and they could really make Purdy uncomfortable. Get pressure up the middle, get Purdy off his spot, get your edge rushers to maintain their pass-rushing lanes so Purdy can't extend plays. He IS pretty good at that, he's not "just" a system QB who checks the ball down, but they have guys running open so much, it's like the Packers vs the Cowboys. So the pass rush needs to come to play. I'd like to see LVN and Smith playing more on their Right Side(so over Trent Williams). LVN at least is physical enough that he won't allow Williams to blow him off the ball and then get to the next level. He's basically the sacrificial lamb. Hopefully you see the Packers playing a lot of different schemes, but a lot of base and when they do go to nickel, you'll need to put Jaire/Valentine on an Island on occasion and use Savage as that robber and Quay/Campbell can cover the middle of the field. With Cmac and those option routes, Kittle down the seem and then just the similar concepts we run with a lot of mesh routes and crossers, some inverted C2 with the backers getting good drops, C1 Robber or Cover 3 match could force Purdy to hold the ball a bit(and hopefully allow the pass rush to get home. It's gonna be a LOT of fun though. The SF offense vs the Packers Defense is obviously a mis-match on Paper, but I'm confident MLF can add enough input...given they run very similar schemes and that we can get a few timely sacks at big moments that the offense should have a chance. WE need 2 turnovers, we need to not turn the ball over and we need long drives in which we don't allow Bosa/Young./Hargraves to get us behind the sticks. Oh, and if Rasheed Walker wants to prove me wrong(and I caught just absolute hell for suggesting in a Packers "needs" discussion on Twitter that LT should be our top priority) and prove he's more than just a good LT FOR a 7th rd pick and someone who wasn't expected to start this year...I'd be absolutely thrilled.

It's not a crazy argument. I don't think they were as good yet. That Dallas team still had their best OL, Harper and then the big 3. But that was a 27-24 game and that includes Favre throwing a pick after the Packers got a big stop but were pinned back inside their own 10. And then at 31-27 in the 3rd/4th(I was ~10 when this game played, but I remember it pretty clearly)...he threw a 1st down pick that either Teague or Brown took back inside the 20 that led to the final score. 38-27. So just a cleaner game from Favre and maybe they win it. Though...Dallas did have 8 pro-bowlers on offense, multiple APs and Erik Williams, back from injury, was not one of them(though he was arguably their best). The Packers had the best player on each side of the ball(even with Emmitt and Deion). But that Dallas OL and DL were just dominant. By the way, just as a side note, what's the first thing everyone thinks of when they think of what Deion COULDN'T(or wouldn't) do? He somehow got this reputation for not being a hitter, but he could lay the wood early in his career. He was a solid sized CB(especially for that era). I remember watching something with Switzer told him to be LESS physical in the run game as they were using him as a CB, WR, KR, PR and he was...Deion. Anyway, I view the 49ers as similar to those Cowboys teams at the moment. They've had our number. I still think they're physically superior, BUT I also feel like we've got a shot and we're ascending(though I don't really seem the 49ers descending anytime soon...thank god for that Lance trade or they could have Parsons+2 1sts and a 3rd on their roster).

I don't think anyone's asking for "Labor," the players to sacrifice anything. I think them earning ~50% of the total revenue is a GOOD thing. They're not at this point because the teams that make all the money are trying to not go too deep into the taxes and the small market teams just can't afford to pay everyone. If this was like the NBA(forget the NFL, it'll never be that equal) then you would actually have more money going back into the players' pockets. No...I don't like that. It disincentivizes owners from improving the fan experience. I...don't really have a strong opinion on this. It makes a little bit of sense, but it's really hard to see how you enforce this legally. It's akin to buying into a really not HOA and then when you sell your house, you have to pay them a % on top of everything else you've spent because the HOA has made all the properties more valuable. But sure. 10% of the sales price(after taxes...otherwise it's a little unfair to ask for 10% on a 6 billion dollar sale and you're already paying probably...30% after taxes with the capital gains and then the depreciation they claim that accelerates). So you sell for 6 Billion, you end up pocketing say...4 billion, 400M goes to MLB. That's unlikely to pass any type of legal scrutiny, but not a terrible idea. I don't really like this either. No other league has this and I don't think you should limit how much you can pay trainers or even your GMs. This should still be a merit-based business and you should be rewarded for success. You'll never get that. For instance, in the NFL...the Cowboys make a TON more than the Packers do. Even after they put the majority of their ticket sales, the TV revenue, merchandising...put that all in and divide it by 32, they still generate a ton more money. BUT with the cap, with the floor, with the main thing, the revenue sharing, it hasn't provided that huge benefit. Now the wealthier teams still have some advantage in the NFL. They can stay ahead of the cap with cash(too much to get into, but they can keep giving signing bonuses, prorate it, push the cap down the road and they're spending 20, 30, 50 Million a year more and just using accounting and the ever-rising cap to push it down the road)...BUT it's not a system where the Chiefs and Packers can't afford to pay Mahomes and Rodgers or even Chris Jones and Kenny Clark. Make the floor 100M, the cap 300M. You can even have exceptions as you have in the NBA. You can go over for a 10/5 player...call it Brett Rights. I don't care. Just move the needle a bit without a system that's...I don't know what the word is...I guess punitive toward the owners. If you lock in how much they can make and you lock in ticket prices, you'll end up with an inferior experience. Just no motivation to improve anything at the stadium.

Ah...that should have been obvious being as it was in Candlestick. Good call. Anyway, that was still a massive game for us. Knocking off SF when it was viewed as a two-team race over those 4 years. SF's last win with Montana, then NYG, Washington...and then I think it was Dallas for two, SF knocked them off with Deion(and their cap punishments) and then won it again...that year. And it seemed like every game started the same way. GB would score. Dallas would score(or maybe we'd jump out to a two-score lead). Then at some point, usually a pivotal point, Favre would throw a pick, Dallas would score, get the ball back at half, score, they'd have the lead and then it was 5 yards before anyone could touch Emmitt! And if you DID get them in 3rd and long, Irvin or Harper was gonna get one. BUT if you just happened to double them, then Novachek would beat you down the seem! And Jerry tries to argue this team is as talented as that one. 3-4 legit HOF caliber players on that OL(Erik Williams was as good of a RT as I've seen, Larry Allen was a top 10 all-time OL, and Newton was a freak-freak athlete). I think Barry goes for 3K a couple of years with that offense! Anyway, good catch. The Catch 2, the one that should have been a Rice fumble, was in SF as well, correct? I think it was, but...don't care to go look it up right now.

Ok...so how are we feeling about this game? Does anyone feel like we WILL beat the 49ers? Not can we or is it possible? All it takes is a Craig Newsome err...Carrington Valentine scoop and score off a Christian McCaffery Fumble and we KNOW we've got a chance! Got me feeling a little nostalgic. Went back and watched the highlights of the '95 Divisional Rd upset. The game that would determine who went on to play the Pats in the SB(and likely both teams beat the Pats). A couple of things stand out. First, go to ~5:00. It's when Young gets sacked on what I thought was a QB blitz by Wayne Simmons. But the important thing is how quickly they blow it dead. It looks like the ball is coming out before he goes down. I slowed it down and it certainly looks like it's come loose(though as Packers fans who watched their playoff game two years later knows, the refs don't like calling penalties on the Niners! Cough*Rice*Cough* The contrast between the West Coast Offense in it's original form vs the modern West Coast offense...which I really don't think has much of a meaning. I guess now it's just built off that quick, short passing game, but the entire premise was to find a way to get the most out of your QB who lacked elite arm strength. Walsh came up with it after Bengals great Ken Anderson had elbow injuries...and he'd go on to win a SB. The thing is, these two QBs did NOT lack arm strength. You can see it in some of these absolute LAZERS over the middle. It also looked more like they went with the first read very often instead of picking out the matchup based on coverage. So I guess it was both more difficult to play QB given the rules that were not yet in place, but also simpler as you didn't have as much on your shoulders. You get the play, you go to your first read, if it's not there, you dump it off(especially with Reggie bearing down on you. But beyond that, all the snaps under center. You have a T formation in many of these with two backs with their hands on the ground, both off-set. NOW you'd have a QB surveying the defense and one of those players lined up at RB would either go in motion or would motion back into the backfield and neither would be in a 3-point stance. These were the two BEST QBs in the NFL and they were playing at a high level. Fritz Shurmur was an outstanding DC. He had limited athleticism in the LBing core and the secondary outside of Butler and for a brief moment Brian Simmons, but Reggie White on that DL gave everyone 1 on 1s and when he sent a LBer, they were getting home. Very interesting to watch how the game has changed. I know it's almost 30 years now, but it's still kinda wild.

They're talking about the 2035 timeframe in which manufacturers are also saying they'll be...manufacturing exclusively electric vehicles. GMC for one has said they will not only make Electric Vehicles by 2035. I thought it was 2035, but in any event...I rented a Rivian for a trip...and I won't be doing that again. I wanted to test drive it before deciding if I was going to buy one. It just added WAAAY too much time to the trip and was far too inconvenient. I'd guess by the time there's any type of EV mandate(which I don't think will come in the next 8 or 11 years) the infrastructure will improve dramatically. It was an awesome truck and I'd even have swallowed the "Max pack batter," or whatever, but it's still just too hard to find places to charge it and there are too many dead zones. I'm gonna stick with the hybrids until then, but hopefully in the next decade, you'll have a charging station and a quicker charging capability by then. Given how quickly battery technology is coming, that seems pretty reasonable. Of course, there are people who seem just fundamentally opposed to Electric Vehicles just because they're EVs. I like the Turndra's that are electric under 35(under 45-50 would be nicer, but I'm admittedly pretty ignorant as to why they've got that type of shut-off) and then go to gas when you're on the freeway.

Yeah, he always seems to get better when Matt LaFleur publicly says something or as was the case this past week, "wanted to be more involved in the defensive gameplan." I have seen the Packers with great schemes for the teams they were facing this year...and have absolutely zero faith it was Joe Barry based on how unprepared we are EVERY year for the first ~10 games or the first ~10 games sans a huge matchup like KC or whoever. This is so repetitive, I know I'm just repeating myself now, but Quay is a freak athlete. Wyatt is unblockable 1 on 1(Clark as well, but he may be unblockable double-teamed). Their DL, edges, CBs, they have talent all over. Even Savage I think would be a much better player in a different system in which he's not just playing quarters. They had him playing robber vs Dallas(who runs trip slants a lot and he stole 6 from them). "Fool me once shame on you...fool me twice...ya can't get fooled again folks, that's the point here!"

Or the wealthy teams will hire the executives of the well run team and run their organizations like the Rays(LAD) or the Brewers(NYMs) and the "level" playing field will become even more lopsided. You really just explained the NFL...save for the financial component. Building a team with "smart people," helps a helluva lot more when you generate twice the revenue(or more) of the other teams.

Yeah...might make the Preston Smith call easier. Also may make Edge a bit of a need this draft(not high, but middle rds). Really a good 4th Edge Rusher. I did like Brenton Cox Jr though.

It's really hard for me to imagine anyone who TRULY saw this coming. Even in the pre-season predictions, the most positive ones, whatever...did anyone think Love would be throwing the ball like THIS? That this offense would be capable of this? It's amazing. They bucked the schedule-winning some of the tougher games, losing some of the easier games, Love started with 14/10 TDs/INTs and then just exploded while the skill players limped along until they finally started picking up speed and now they're all on a dead sprint heading into Santa Clara and facing probably the most talented team in the NFL next week in SF! Probably the most fun I've had watching the Packers since 2010. As good as they looked today, I'm not sure they can knock off SF, but...I know I won't be placing any bets against this group. Youngest team to make the playoffs in 50----FIFTY YEARS!!!

LOL...even in the SBs he's won they've been the home team and vs the Buccs, they were the road team. It tells me something! Not entirely sure what, but something!

I'm not sure about this...Finley was a tank. I'll have to see more from the young guys. BUT, we haven't seen a healthy Watson yet. When he gets going, this group could be as dangerous as just about any Rodgers has had. It's having so many guys who can beat you...they really can't take anyone away.

I thought that might be called. Van Ness gave him a pretty decent shove at the end...

Impressive Flop Jayden! LeBron would be proud!

It'd be funnier if Drake Maye said the same! They're so close to figuring it out. New OC who can run the offense. Get a LT. I know they think Braxton Jones is the guy, but he's not. Wright is a good start at RT. DJ Moore is a helluva WR. Kmet is a good TE. They won't though. They'll hedge and go defense and their...** Checks notes...entire history of their franchise of not having a QB to throw for 30TDs will continue!

Yes. I also know what he wrote here and he wasn't trying to trade them. He literally just listed the outcomes that were possible. IF he was talking about Wilken playing SS because that's what he played in AAU and we could have the best offensive SS, I'd be disagreeing with him...but he didn't. It starts with how either can be the future 3B, then the other can play elsewhere with the DH and 1B. Then, the possibility they could be traded in a huge move at the deadline.

Kinda does though. You're talking about the Bucks defensive issues and then the ONLY player you mention is...Lopez. And how bad he's been for years. I'd say it's relevant that he was a DPOY ner-up last season. -I think most 7-footers are probably better defensively in the paint than they are out on the perimeter defending people. And I'm just completely ignoring...what now? The thing I address in the very next paragraph? Oh! You found the part I was "completely ignoring!" Now, just the list of good perimeter defenders who are 7-foot, who can protect the paint and shoot? Let's make one of those, then see who we'd be better off with. So over the last 2 days, it went from the coaching doesn't matter in the NBA, to they just made this huge change? And it's the change that led to the last staff being fired. I don't think that is what got Bud fired at all. Brook Lopez and his ability(or inability I guess) to defend out on the perimeter. If THAT is why Bud got fired, then Horst and his entire staff should go because...they probably knew from the jump that Lopez wasn't a good perimeter defender(probably why they've supplemented the roster with the likes of Tucker or Crowder). I find it beyond ridiculous that we're putting the newfound defensive shortcomings of this team on Brook Lopez.

C'mon...they're playing lazy and not doing the little things, but that's not a coaching issue because coaches don't really matter in the NBA? He was runner-up for DPOY last year. Lopez was the 2nd best defender last year in the Miami series and outstanding vs Boston the year before. The Bucks have Giannis. How many teams have a big man who can defend inside and play perimeter defense at an elite level in the NBA? There are a handful of them. Giannis(and he's really not a great on-ball defender on the perimeter), Bam...maybe Jaren Jackson. It's a very short list. They completely changed the makeup of their team from a defensive-minded team to an offensive-minded one. They changed their coaching staff and then underwent a significant change right before the season. On top of that, Middleton working his way back...it wasn't going to be a seamless transition, but hanging this on Lopez makes zero sense to me. He's +1.1 DBPM, Defensive rating is 2nd on the team at a solid 115. He's not the problem.

These are professional athletes in their mid 20s for the most part and the "old guys," are in their early 30s. The back-to-back excuse is lame. The Bucks played well and they shot the lights out. Boston was sloppy. This could have happened to either team on the 2nd of a B2B or coming off a 4 day rest.

Yeah...money they'd already budgeted for. Not like this was a big surprise or some huge outlay of capital. The Yankees spent over 30M today on Soto. That's not really newsworthy. Trading for him was. Not agreeing to an exact figure when they already had pretty good idea of what they were spending anyway.

The Rockies(I think). It'd be foolish...IMO, to trade away a pitcher with his ability for a team on their timeline. But, they are about as poorly managed as a franchise can be...so maybe they will. They're worse than the Angels. I can at least see why the Angels did the things they did. Keep Ohtani, Trout, the biggest stars in the game, try and win... The Rockies moves have no discernable reason behind them. Sign Bryant after trading Arrenado and taking on a bunch of his salary...and getting little in return for example.