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Ok...again, the contradictions here are a bit amusing. So Chaffin having an ERA blow-up game makes you LESS confident about him(Despite a longer history of success)...but Strzelecki having a serious of bad outings after a nice start to the year and posting an ERA of ~5(NOT including the two games he gave up runs after that .66 ERA start, one of which was also a 5 ER game) then you like the possibilities? I don't get this. Strzelecki had a series of bad outings and lost his FB velo. He went to AAA and had a 7+ ERA. Beyond all that, I'd say the Brewers tend to get the most out of their pitchers.
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What exactly constitutes a "hard throwing reliever," in MLB in 2023? Because to MY mind a 92 MPH FB does not constitute a "Hard thrower."
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I don't recall a trade I hated so vehemently and so immediately than the Norris trade. I definitely went with the, "I'm sure the Brewers know something I don't," rationalization, but while normally true, not so in this case. I did not like that Tristan Peters trade. Wasn't a huge fan of the Bush for Kelly trade, but...there was at least reason to think Bush was good.
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I don't know who "booed" you here, but I've said we need another reliever. I've seen probably 20 others say we need another reliever. There were threads about Hader that got I guess "booed" because they were kinda ridiculous, but even in those people agreed that it'd definitely help the Brewers. I just can't stand the "I told everyone and you all didn't agree," posts....I hate them more when there is no merit to it and then that much more when you're not even proven right yet.
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Except they weren't hard throwing relievers. They were....lower 90s type relievers. If they were still throwing in the mid to upper 90s, they're probably both still in the pen, but something seems off with both of them
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I'd send Turang down. Miller's a nice defender at 2nd, Turang's isn't hitting... The swing is nice, good bat skills, speed, defense, just seems to be pressing(like most of the team).
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Yes, he's a very good player. He's not the type of player you trade Chourio, Quero, Misiorowski+ for. That player is...Soto from last year or...I don't even know who. We all know he's a very good player. It's an absurd trade though.
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So exactly how do YOU come up with your valuations? LOL...in what world do you think the Brewers would trade Chourio ALONE for Kim...and that's before you double down on the absurd and throw in Quero or Misiorowski. There's a very good reason this is the deal that "Nobody is talking about." It's because...it is ridiculous. This very much feels like Clancy, but the exact opposite.
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BrewerFan replied to Jim French Stepstool's topic in Transaction Rumors & Proposals
Eh, his FB had dropped into the low 90s from what I saw. Even with a really good slider, I think you need more velo than that to be a high leverage reliever. I was more upset about losing guys like Guerra, Erceg...Varland, pitchers like that. But hope Cousins can get going yet. -
They've got all this on Bref...which I'm sure you knew. https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=fielde001pri Prince "struggled," a bit at AA...which is not unexpected at age 20...and it wasn't really struggling, just relative to his normal production. 272/.366/.473 .839 28 HRs, 577 PAs, 497 ABs, 65 BB(I guess 15 HBP or sac flies). I guess in contrast to Chourio, it was a pretty great season for Prince. .285/.343/.483 .827 16 HRs I'd love to see Chourio walk like ~12% of the time, but the guy is such a stud on the bases, in the OF...just all around. I wonder where Chourio is going to end up as his season line looks like an EKG RIGHT after they yell clear...
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I'm again not only not buying that it was the tacked balls that made Chourio look...just normal, nor the idea that "so many" were trying to impugn him. Black and Quero were raking all year long. Chourio was just a 19 year old kid in AA and it took him a few months to figure it out. The league as a whole...so far as I saw was striking out less with the tacked ball. I just think there are some who have dug into REALLY bad arguments about Latin American players and jumped Chourio for being merely good while making the biggest jump in levels of competition. I'd say on this whole board I saw maybe 2 people use the first half of the season to doubt Chourio and I don't believe either have stopped. Now, if I do have any of those facts wrong and AA is hitting that much better post-tacked ball, I guess that would just make me that much more excited for the other 2 top 100 prospects in Biloxi.
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I'm still genuinely in awe the Brewers haven't given Hiura another shot. A new stance, new swing. Looks like he's on time. He has to be a little bored at AAA, but he's more than earned another shot given Winker has been our DH and when he's not, it's often been Cartini. It's really just inexcusable. Lets say he "only" puts up a 750 OPS and strikes out 40% of the time. THAT is a massive upgrade on Winker.
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It's amusing to me to watch Mets fans just FREAK OUT at Buck keeping Vogie in the DH spot...while we keep rolling out Winker rather than giving Hiura a shot. Imagine this team with the New York market....minus the ~400M going toward players salaries!
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I don't think either is going to require top prospects. I'd think Oakland would be the type of team that'd have some interest in Zamora. A good defender who gets on base, has speed and can play SS, 2B and 3B. But again the problem I see is the Brewers are lacking the type of prospects teams are looking for that they'd be willing to part with. The top guys are off the table for a prospect like either of these guys. And then nobody wants to trade a guy like Baez or Yophery Rodriguez for a rental...just to watch them potentially climb through someone's system en route to to becoming a top 100 prospect. So it's Justin Jarvis, Freddy Zamora, maybe Carlos Rodriguez(CF), Ethan Small...who likely has little value.
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Rooker is a 28 year old who's hitting for the first time though. That makes me a bit skeptical. Not that you're going to find a perfect player on the market.
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I'm guessing the thinking would be a competitor like Woodruff wouldn't be able to help it and push it vs either team. More adrenaline, reaching back for a bit extra before he's all the way back, stressing the shoulder when he's NEARLY ready...seems like the risk outweighs the reward. Gasser on the other hand...I guess the thought has to be about the rule 5 and how much a start now is worth vs putting him on the 40 man? There's a lot more to balance than just calling up the best available. Maybe that's why Jarvis was pulled from his start. Incase they needed to over some innings.
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I remember there were a lot of Brewers fans who liked Jackson...not that it ever came to fruition, but also that the D-backs paid a steep price. It wasn't just Scherzer, Schlereth looked like he was going to be a really nice BP arm as well. I'm starting to wonder if the Dodgers have dominated the NL West more because the teams around them seem to make so many stupid trades...the Padres in their desperation haved traded a full roster of young, controllable talent away for expensive talent, the Rockies...as one exec put it, "live in their own wolld," and the D-backs, probably the best run team, they've made their far share of head-scratching moves as well. The D-backs and Rox seem to aim their ire at the NL Central, but the Padres are equal opportunity idiots. The Giants seem run well enough. Even when Sabean was there and making what seemed like suspect deals, there at least seemed to be a method to their madness of acquiring aging veteran, but it worked.
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I'm find with moving him to AAA, I just don't think THAT is necessary. Let him put up silly numbers, keep him in a place he's comfortable and...just unleash him on the Southern League. I'm not sure when the AA and AAA playoffs are, but if Nashville makes the post-season, move him up then, but I honestly don't think it matters. I think it's good for him to just...crush AA pitching for a while. Especially if we're all thinking sometime around next June(or earlier if they actually can pull off the big extension right away). I just don't think you're pushed more from AA to AAA. The big jumps are AA and AAA. I don't really have much conviction in that opinion however. I'll trust they do what's best for him...but again, if that means he's not up until 2026, then something has gone VERY wrong beyond just a higher that ideal chase rate.
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I think the only thing holding Black back is the lack of a long term home. It doesn't totally make sense to me as he looks like he can play a very clean 3B. Not spectacular, not a big arm, but enough. His arm is accurate, he's got a quick first step, he's very good coming in on the ball. But it feels like that scouting report gets written and then it's carved in stone. If he had a 60 arm, I think he'd be a top 30 prospect right around Marte from Cincy. AS for Gasser, I saw his FB was topping out at 97, but in the 94-96 range. The scouting reports say 91-94 topping out at 96 with a plus slider and then two inconsistent pitchers. The delivery looks deceptive, but from what I can tell, they're saying he needs to develop the change and curve a bit more so righties don't tea off on him. That makes more sense at 92-93. Rodriguez looks like he has pretty similar velo, but that change is particularly nasty. And if the slider turns out to be a 60 grade pitch...that's a pretty nice combo to fill out a rotation.
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Wow...that's wild. Maybe Giannis gets in on the professional Soccer craze and brings a team here! Mark A buys a team, Giannis loves the sport...hopefuly Jordan Love earns a payday where he can invest! I had no idea Milwaukee was such a Soccer city.
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I'm just curious why you're stuck on him spending the whole season in AAA next year irrespective of what he actually does? How about this for a novel idea. We let him finish the year in AA, maybe promote him to AAA at the end of the year if they're in the playoffs or whatever. Start him in AAA next year and...see how he does. If he does as expected, and he's raking...and I think he will be, you promote him, try to extend him as you do with phenoms of his caliber. I don't understand why we'd structure this in such a contrived manner. If he's NOT hitting, then you DON'T promote him. It's pretty cut and dry. But this is just creating a problem where none exists. You just come out of it looking TERRIBLE if you're holding back the #1 or #2 prospect in all of baseball because...Jimmy Nelson? Prince, Weeks, Braun...so many players spend a year in AA, then ~2 months in AAA and get called up. How's that not the ideal outcome?
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You act like setting records for the Nashville sounds isn't a good reason! I honestly feel like Clancy throws things out there he hasn't completely thought through and then he needs to double down. How...Jimmy Nelson's shoulder injury plays into this is baffling. Keston Hiura is not Jackson Chourio. I...I'm just speechless.
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I've been waiting for someone who likes doing these deep digs to go through all the Padres trades and come up with a team comprised of Padres prospects that were traded away. I know that bullpen would be...incredible. They still get to keep guys like Tatis. Prospects acquired for veterans they traded away. I bet THAT team would be ~100M cheaper and much better with an elite-elite farm system.
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I don't particularly care, but I've seen people posting it on Twitter and different places. Anything that brings fans in and that's a VERY stupid thing, but it just shows some swagger and makes one of the dullest "plays" in baseball mildly entertaining. So I'm all for that. I'm all for Tatis. I hated when as a rookie, he hit a 2nd grand slam and he had to deal with the other team yelling at him, but our team as well. I love seeing personality in the game...and sometimes that includes the heels. A guy like Carlos Gomez or...every Cards player in the last 30 years. I don't really see it as showing up pitchers either. At least compared to any other sport. Guys do something, they celebrate and do whatever. I also remember when Griffey Jr was considered disrespectful for the backward hat in BP and things like that-that I thought benign.
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Quero would be a total non-starter. Black...I wouldn't do it, but I could see why the Sox would want him in return and I don't think it's that unreasonable. But I'd prefer we just slide Black into the DH slot right now. Or 1B if that experiment goes well over the next few weeks. I think Black has a very high floor. At worst I think he's going to be a good OB guy who can play all over the field. 3B/2B/1B/CF/LF. If he hits .280 with his speed, versatility and the little power he provides, that's an extremely valuable player.
