2017-07-26: Brewers (Nelson) at Nationals (Gonzalez) 6:05 PM CDT [Brewers lose, 8-5]

[topper09er]

And after watching Hader embarrass one of the best hitters in the league CC somehow thinks he is only a LOOGY

[pacopete4]

I just can't believe we took Hader out. I'm just stunned. The kid just put a nook in Harper's mouth and Counsell takes him out. Unbelievable. Beyond frustrating.

[OnaBadger58]

Is Domingo that slow?

[adambr2]

Is there rain coming? Why is the game ending?

 

Do you know how many wins the Brewers have when trailing after 8 innings this year? I'll give you a hint, it's less than one.

[burnzy24]

Counsel overthinking this one. Why, why why do you take Hader out after he flat dominates Harper? I don't care about the matchups at that point.

 

Agreed. Hader is not a LOOGY.

[Fear The Chorizo]

And after watching Hader embarrass one of the best hitters in the league CC somehow thinks he is only a LOOGY

 

I agree, particularly in a tie game situation. The only guy in the pen I'd even think of taking Hader out for in that situation is Knebel, and I probably still don't do it.

[jason21nl]

Maybe now he'll admit it's over

[mattyo]

This loss is 4on counsel. He got literally everything wrong in the 8th. Just unacceptable

[NievesNoNO]

Man, I like Counsel; he's done a great job but this one is really upsetting... Did he not just see what Hader did to Harper? Was he not paying attention??!! and then Hughes??? At least you go to Knebel!!!!

[OnaBadger58]

10 pitches from Hughes and the score has changed by 4 runs.

[rickh150]

I personally think Hughes is garbage, but that's just me.

 

Say that before the hit .....

 

Why? I can have that feeling at any time.

 

I just don't think he's that great. He's a contact pitcher and I prefer strike out pitchers. Just like I like Barnes more so than others, but he got unlucky tonight.

 

Because you don't say that if he lines out to RF and we're out of the inning.

[adambr2]

Cubs are up 4-0 on the hapless White Sox, so that will do it for the 'technically we are still in 1st' for now.

[yfinn6]

Man, I like Counsel; he's done a great job but this one is really upsetting... Did he not just see what Hader did to Harper? Was he not paying attention??!! and then Hughes??? At least you go to Knebel!!!!

 

Counsel was managing the 8th 'by the book' and it blew up on him.

[OnaBadger58]

Rock, unless you're Mariano or Jansen, good pitches don't matter when it's the same pitch over and over.

[LaprilOne]

League average defense at first and Harper never gets up to bat. Hard to blame that one on Barnes.

 

Agree, Thames has no range at all, or leaping ability. Like the guy, but he's a DH

[Matt1969]

I don't know that I've ever seen a bullpen group this horrible before.

[markedman5]

Got to hand it to the pen on this trip.....when they blow the lead.....they really blow it!

[JohnBriggs12]

And after watching Hader embarrass one of the best hitters in the league CC somehow thinks he is only a LOOGY

 

Amen. Hader's stuff is electric so he takes him out. Unreal.

[DuWayne Steurer]

I realize people are hot right now but the Forum rules still exists in the game threads. If your post gets something replaced with a bunch of asterisks it's violating the Forum cuss filter and shouldn't be posted. Let's try to remember that going forward guys.

[brewmann04]

wow want to hear his reason for taking hadar out this is on the manager.

[topper09er]

Too bad Swarzek had to ride a horse to DC instead of fly. How was Brinson able to get here from Colorado but Swarzek needs an extra day from Chicago. He better come in and at least pass Hughes on the bullpen depth chart

[Eye Black]

I'm not trying to pile on here, but you know you have Blazek starting on the mound tomorrow and your odds of winning are going to be less than stellar. Why not use Knebel if you are going to pull Hader there? Brewers needed a strikeout pitcher in that situation against Zimmerman. It is so dejecting.

[adambr2]

Jacob Barnes has a 4.50 ERA this year, and he's still somehow our '8th inning guy.'

[Matt1969]

SEVEN RUNS(AT LEAST) in the 8th inning???? HORRIBLE!!!

[stoutdude04]

Because you don't say that if he lines out to RF and we're out of the inning

 

I wouldn't have said anything, but my opinion of him would still be the same.

 

What about him makes you want him pitching in an important situation?