Wade Miley to Reds - 2 years / $15 million

[jjgott]

Ken Rosenthal

@Ken_Rosenthal

Free-agent left-hander Wade Miley in agreement with #Reds on two-year, $15M contract, pending physical, sources tell The Athletic. Deal will reunite him with his former pitching coach in Milwaukee, Derek Johnson.

[Eye Black]

This should go well...

[PinaMadness]

Hello, 4th place.

[sveumrules]

You can buy a lot of Skyline Chili with 15 million.

 

Then again, after he wins the 2020 NL Cy Young & World Series MVP awards, they'll probably just give it to him for free.

[MrTPlush]

Thread prediction:

 

“Wow would have loved to have Miley at that cheap price!”

 

“We don’t know he would have come here even if we made the same offer, maybe he really wanted to go be with Derek Johnson again.”

[MrTPlush]

Wade Miley was incredible outside of a horrid September. I think it is a solid deal for the Reds. Doesn’t take much to be worth that as a starter and the last two years show he can be a lot more than good at times.

[liveforoctober]

We signed Miley before it was cool to sign Miley. Stearns doesn't like to follow trends. Once it is cool to sign Brett Anderson again we will be out on him

[Ron Robinsons Beard]

That's a good deal for Miley. I think that is the wrong stadium for him, though. he's gonna get hit around pretty good in that bandbox.

[SRB]

Up to $24 million if he is actually good. Makes the Brett Anderson signing look great, in my opinion. They were basically the same pitcher last year.

[LouisEly]

Well, I'd rather the Brewers did this than the Garcia deal.

 

Maybe Miley is a little miffed that Stearns didn't give him the money he was looking for after 2018.

[MrTPlush]

Up to $24 million if he is actually good. Makes the Brett Anderson signing look great, in my opinion. They were basically the same pitcher last year.

 

$24mil is he is good and a third year is added on.

 

I think this topic has come up before, but I’d much rather have a pitcher who is elite 5 months and horrid one month instead of the guy who is essentially average every month.

 

I think they could end up similar, but personally Wade Miley definitely has a higher ceiling. Miley has also been really durable over his career, Anderson not so much.

 

Making the assumption we could have brought him back on similar terms (maybe true or maybe not) I would have easily taken Miley...but that is just me.

[brewcrewdue80]

Sounds like 7mil, 7mil, 10mil option or 1mil buyout.

[MadThinker88]

Wise words to remember: Objects in the mirror are closer then they appear...

[pacopete4]

I don’t know why I chuckled when I got the “breaking news” message. I mean, a couple years ago this guy was a bum and literally looks like one. Stearns found him too. Pretty neat.

[Eye Black]

Wade Miley tied for 10th highest ground ball rate (49.7%) among all qualified starters last year. The Reds already had two other starters in the top 10 last season, Sonny Gray (7th / 50.8%) and Luis Castillo (2nd / 55.2%).

[pacopete4]

Wade Miley tied for 10th highest ground ball rate (49.7%) among all qualified starters last year. The Reds already had two other starters in the top 10 last season, Sonny Gray (7th / 50.8%) and Luis Castillo (2nd / 55.2%).

 

In the park they play in, this strategy really makes a lot of sense.

[SRB]

Up to $24 million if he is actually good. Makes the Brett Anderson signing look great, in my opinion. They were basically the same pitcher last year.

 

$24mil is he is good and a third year is added on.

 

I think this topic has come up before, but I’d much rather have a pitcher who is elite 5 months and horrid one month instead of the guy who is essentially average every month.

 

I think they could end up similar, but personally Wade Miley definitely has a higher ceiling. Miley has also been really durable over his career, Anderson not so much.

 

Making the assumption we could have brought him back on similar terms (maybe true or maybe not) I would have easily taken Miley...but that is just me.

 

How exactly does Wade Miley have a higher ceiling? Because he miraculously had a 2.57 ERA for us in 80.2 IP (versus a 4.30 xFIP)? Anderson has been better throughout his career when he actually pitches, and he's younger. I'll grant you that in his career Miley has been more durable, but not really in recent years.

 

One year of a risky pitcher versus two to three more expensive years of an older risky pitcher who will give you the same results. No brainer.

[SRB]

Wade Miley tied for 10th highest ground ball rate (49.7%) among all qualified starters last year. The Reds already had two other starters in the top 10 last season, Sonny Gray (7th / 50.8%) and Luis Castillo (2nd / 55.2%).

 

In the park they play in, this strategy really makes a lot of sense.

 

[sarcasm]Especially with Mike Moustakas manning SS/2B[/sarcasm]

[KeithStone53151]

Is there a snowballs chance in hell that Anderson has a better season than Miley? I am disliking more moves than I am liking this time around. I don't want to derail the thread, but this feels like a true penny pinching offseason.

[pacopete4]

Wade Miley tied for 10th highest ground ball rate (49.7%) among all qualified starters last year. The Reds already had two other starters in the top 10 last season, Sonny Gray (7th / 50.8%) and Luis Castillo (2nd / 55.2%).

 

In the park they play in, this strategy really makes a lot of sense.

 

[sarcasm]Especially with Mike Moustakas manning SS/2B[/sarcasm]

 

Well, a “seeing-eye-single” is still better than the ball landing in the Ohio River.

[Ennder]

Ground ball pitchers in HR parks don't tend to work out as well as people think, they tend to give up a lot of HR on the balls that do make it into the air. I really don't know what to think about this one. I'm happy for Wade that he got 2 years and got some security for his family. I think there is definitely a good pitcher in there but I'm not sure I believe in just how good he has been over parts of the last 2 seasons. I also don't know what to think of the Reds. They grossly overperformed as a team last year with just about everyone on their team having a career year except for Votto and still finished with just 75 wins. I don't have confidence that they are even a .500 team so this type of signing is pretty risky.

[brewmann04]

That's a good deal for Miley. I think that is the wrong stadium for him, though. he's gonna get hit around pretty good in that bandbox.

. I agree here Joey

[pacopete4]

Is there a snowballs chance in hell that Anderson has a better season than Miley? I am disliking more moves than I am liking this time around. I don't want to derail the thread, but this feels like a true penny pinching offseason.

 

Have you looked at the numbers? They’ll probably end up pretty comparable.

[SRB]

Is there a snowballs chance in hell that Anderson has a better season than Miley? I am disliking more moves than I am liking this time around. I don't want to derail the thread, but this feels like a true penny pinching offseason.

 

2019 Miley: 167.1 IP, 3.98 ERA, 4.51 FIP, 4.52 xFIP, 1.34 WHIP, 89 ERA-, 100 FIP-, 2.0 fWAR, 2.0 rWAR

2019 Anderson: 176.0 IP, 3.89 ERA, 4.57 FIP, 4.79 xFIP, 1.31 WHIP, 87 ERA-, 102 FIP-, 2.0 fWAR, 2.5 rWAR

[Matt Breen]

Solid deal for Miley. Good for him.