Game Thread (7/01/2022): Brewers (Burnes) at Pirates (Contreras) - 6:05 PM CDT

[Eye Black]

[BruisedCrew]

It wouldn’t be a trip to Pittsburgh without at least one rain delay.

Tonight’s game could be a candidate.

If it happens, I hope it isn’t one of those mid game delays that cuts Burnes’ appearance short.

[treego14]

Again the opponent has their lineup posted on game day well ahead of the Brewers posting theirs ... is this a strategy of Craig Counsell's?

[brewerfan82]

11 minutes ago, treego14 said:

Again the opponent has their lineup posted on game day well ahead of the Brewers posting theirs ... is this a strategy of Craig Counsell's?

What advantage does he get by posting it earlier? Probably no real advantage by posting it later either, but seems like a non-issue (unless you're trying to set your fantasy lineup).

I'm guessing there's zero strategy involved. He probably just has a certain gameday routine and he happens to get to the lineup later than other clubs.

[BruisedCrew]

It’s my understanding that teams are required to submit  their lineups to the Commissioner’s office, and have them processed and approved, before releasing them to the media or posting them to players. The goal is to prevent bettors from getting inside information about who is and isn’t in the lineup before it is available to the general public.

This submission usually takes place 2-3 hours before game time. 
 

I doubt if Counsell is trying to gain any competitive advantage by posting later. Last night the Brewers had their lineup out before the Pirates. 

[NBBrewFan]

1 hour ago, BruisedCrew said:

I doubt if Counsell is trying to gain any competitive advantage by posting later. Last night the Brewers had their lineup out before the Pirates. 

I heard the exit velocity of the lineup submission was their best of the year and they still lost.  Go figure.

[nate82]

2 hours ago, treego14 said:

Again the opponent has their lineup posted on game day well ahead of the Brewers posting theirs ... is this a strategy of Craig Counsell's?

Manager’s have to submit the lineups to the commissioners office first which normally happens around 2-3 hours before game time.  The submission then goes to the betting partners.  The manager then can release the lineup to players in the stadium once they get confirmation or 15 minutes after submission whichever comes first.

When that gets posted to the media is all dependent on MLB and it’s process.  So more than likely Counsell has submitted the information about the same time as the other team does.  It just doesn’t always get posted at the same time.

[Brewcrew82]

Looks like the window to get this game played is between 7 and 10, because after that it's gonna get ugly. At least for our sake with Burnes pitching it won't be a situation where he pitches an inning or two and then has to be removed from the game after a 1-2 hour rain delay.  

[treego14]

44 minutes ago, nate82 said:

Manager’s have to submit the lineups to the commissioners office first which normally happens around 2-3 hours before game time.  The submission then goes to the betting partners.  The manager then can release the lineup to players in the stadium once they get confirmation or 15 minutes after submission whichever comes first.

When that gets posted to the media is all dependent on MLB and it’s process.  So more than likely Counsell has submitted the information about the same time as the other team does.  It just doesn’t always get posted at the same time.

Thanks for all that good info; it still remains a mystery why the Brewers lineup is posted for public consumption much later than their opponents almost always.  Very curious ... I think Counsell is just very deliberate and ponders and mulls and meditates and agonizes on his lineup longer than other managers.

[Brewcrew82]

Angel Hernandez behind the plate....

[Brewcrew82]

And like clockwork....

[DuWayne Steurer]

Welcome to the ump show!

[DuWayne Steurer]

Crooked numbers are fun.

[Brewcrew82]

There we go. 

[Brewcrew82]

Brewers have also had a lot of success against Hunter Greene, who is a very similar pitcher to Contreras.

[DuWayne Steurer]

Hiura vs a righty pitcher.  Results guaranteed. 

[Brewcrew82]

Pittsburgh Keston is the best....

[BruisedCrew]

Good plan to get a lead in case the storms do come later. 

[stoutdude04]

5 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

Good plan to get a lead in case the storms do come later. 

I wish they would do this more often. ?

[Brewcrew82]

Well, our offense right now is really really good. Hope they can keep it up going forward

[markedman5]

Homer’s are fun……especially 3 in an inning……

[CdrbrgMark]

9 minutes ago, DuWayne Steurer said:

Hiura vs a righty pitcher.  Results guaranteed. 

No way I'd call results guaranteed. I've seen him strikeout/flyout/groundout plenty of times.

[jason21nl]

1 minute ago, markedman5 said:

Homer’s are fun……especially 3 in an inning……

I was at the game where they hit the 5 in an inning.  Absolutely incredible.  Side note to that game- I ate probably 15 hot dogs during the game.  

[edfunderburk]

Joining the game late … wow - what a start!

I’d love to see that “rare” offensive outbreak tonight for nine innings with Burnes on the mound

We need a game where the offense, defense, & pitching all thrive

 

[DuWayne Steurer]

5 minutes ago, CdrbrgMark said:

No way I'd call results guaranteed. I've seen him strikeout/flyout/groundout plenty of times.

I get that you loathe Hiura, but my post was somewhat tongue in cheek, given that I'd much prefer to see him play/bat vs righties than lefties.