Game Thread (9/25/2022): Brewers (Peralta) at Reds (Lodolo) - 12:40 PM CDT

[Brewcrew82]

Figures that a screw-up from Hiura would mark the effective end of the season. 

[NBBrewFan]

1 minute ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Figures that a screw-up from Hiura would mark the effective end of the season. 

I'm sure he's responsible for inflation and if we want to really be unfair we can blame him for COVID too.

[Brewcrew82]

Just now, NBBrewFan said:

I'm sure he's responsible for inflation and if we want to really be unfair we can blame him for COVID too.

Did I say he was solely (or even significantly) responsible for the end of the season? I don't think I did. 

[BruisedCrew]

7 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Literally every Mets starter has been good this year. Definitely have a "pulse". Also, #2 offense in MLB over the last month or so, and #8 on the season. 

As I have said many times, the Brewers offensive numbers relative to other teams are inflated by the number of games they have played against some of the worst pitching teams in MLB. I have presented numbers that back up my point in other threads

So, being #8 in MLB in runs scored doesn’t translate to me as 8th best offense. If you disagree with me, that’s fine. But, I have seen nothing that would tell me that this offense matched up against the best pitchers on the playoff teams wouldn’t be overmatched. 

[NBBrewFan]

1 minute ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Did I say he was solely (or even significantly) responsible for the end of the season? I don't think I did. 

Then if you aren't blaming him the "mark" to the presumptive end of the season was the HR by Matt Bush.  

[Brewcrew82]

Just now, NBBrewFan said:

Then if you aren't blaming him the "mark" to the presumptive end of the season was the HR by Matt Bush.  

Or maybe Hiura's running error costing us two runs was a marking point of the end of the season, too. If you want to get very technical, then okay, and all power to you. But what you went ahead to say is not close to what I meant. 

[wibadgers23]

That probably does it for this year and what’s worse is we’ll probably have to watch the Cardinals celebrate a division clincher in Milwaukee. That’ll be a real kick to the nether regions.

[NBBrewFan]

Just now, Brewcrew82 said:

Or maybe Hiura's running error costing us two runs was a marking point of the end of the season, too. If you want to get very technical, then okay, and all power to you. But what you went ahead to say is not close to what I meant. 

Not a single run was put up after that point by 11 hitters.  Blaming the one guy, that is clear by now that you hate, is just fine, but the worst hitter among the regulars hasn't been even criticized by you because that would mean you might have been wrong when you pimped him the entire season.   

[DuWayne Steurer]

14 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Figures that a screw-up from Hiura would mark the effective end of the season. 

your hate for hiura is growing wildly stronger. 

emperor palpatine approved.

[Brewcrew82]

2 minutes ago, NBBrewFan said:

Not a single run was put up after that point by 11 hitters.  Blaming the one guy, that is clear by now that you hate, is just fine, but the worst hitter among the regulars hasn't been even criticized by you because that would mean you might have been wrong when you pimped him the entire season.   

And who is this hitter that I've pimped the entire season? lol McCutchen??? I've said for awhile now that he's done. And I wasn't even a fan of the signing to begin with. So, you might want to check your math on that one. 

[sveumrules]

14 minutes ago, BruisedCrew said:

As I have said many times, the Brewers offensive numbers relative to other teams are inflated by the number of games they have played against some of the worst pitching teams in MLB. I have presented numbers that back up my point in other threads

So, being #8 in MLB in runs scored doesn’t translate to me as 8th best offense. If you disagree with me, that’s fine. But, I have seen nothing that would tell me that this offense matched up against the best pitchers on the playoff teams wouldn’t be overmatched. 

Brewers are 31-31 against teams over .500, 7th best in MLB.

Against teams under .500 they are now 51-40, 16th in MLB.

When they miss the playoffs it will be more due to not taking care of business against bad teams than not being to hang with the big boys.

The pitchers faced the same underwhelming opposition & are 18th in R/G.

[willie key]

17 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Figures that a screw-up from Hiura would mark the effective end of the season. 

The season was way over before that.    Way over

 

 

[Brewcrew82]

9 minutes ago, DuWayne Steurer said:

your hate for hiura is growing wildly stronger. 

emperor palpatine approved.

He made some crucial mistakes today. I sure as heck don't "hate" the guy. I've been cheering hard for him throughout his Brewers' career, and thought that his swing adjustments this offseason could be a turning point for him after a hot spring training. But at this point I've just come to accept that he won't ever live up to the hype due to a 40% K rate. Or is ragging on Yelich only allowed here? 

[BruisedCrew]

1 minute ago, sveumrules said:

Brewers are 31-31 against teams over .500, 7th best in MLB.

Against teams under .500 they are now 51-40, 16th in MLB.

When they miss the playoffs it will be more due to not taking care of business against bad teams than it will be not being to hang with the big boys.

The pitchers faced the same underwhelming opposition & are 19th in R/G.

I really think that the W-L records against teams over .500 is a separate and largely independent point from whether being 8th in runs scored makes the Brewers the 8th best offense in MLB. 
 

From the W-L perspective the losses against bad teams are the Brewers downfall. Several of those losses have come in high scoring games and others have come like in this series with being shut down in one game after pouring in runs in others. 

[brewers888]

I missed the game today how did McCutchen do. Going by the game thread he must have done well since Hiura single-handedly lost the game as he does every time he plays and McCutchen Is consistently carrying this lineup.

[yourout]

Anyone know what the Brewers bullpen home run rate is compared to the rest of the league?

Seems like they've given up a lot more home runs from the relievers this year than previous years.

[Brewcrew82]

Just now, brewers888 said:

I missed the game today how did McCutchen do. Going by the game thread he must have done well since Hiura single-handedly lost the game as he does every time he plays and McCutchen Is consistently carrying this lineup.

He's done. Both him and Hiura won't be on this team next year. Though, he did play a major role in winning the game on Friday, which is more than Hiura has done lately. But they're both bad players who should be gone. 

[Sixtolezcano]

48 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Or maybe Hiura's running error costing us two runs was a marking point of the end of the season, too. If you want to get very technical, then okay, and all power to you. But what you went ahead to say is not close to what I meant. 

You are the most argumentative poster on this board.

[Brewcrew82]

Just now, Sixtolezcano said:

You are the most argumentative poster on this board.

So, someone misrepresents what I said. And I'm not supposed to respond and tell them what I actually meant. Gotcha! 

[treego14]

I love the Brewers passion here!

I hope it pushes the Brewers to another gear!

I miss Erik Kratz!  Let’s finish this season with pizazz!

[brewmann04]

1 hour ago, wibadgers23 said:

Two years in a row. Stearns should never be allowed to acquire relievers at the deadline again.

Total unreal he blew the last two trade deadline trades for relief pitching 

[brewmann04]

This is going to see who the brewers keep and whom they let go and who added. I hope the go with their youth 

[willie key]

3 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Figures that a screw-up from Hiura would mark the effective end of the season. 

This is the exact opposite of what you are meaning to say.   Actually hiura was unexpected production this year

I think what you meant to say is a fitting end to the season is our bullpen giving up a home run late to lose the game and our two three and four hitters striking out in the ninth 

that’s a perfect description of the season

[mtrebs]

3 hours ago, wibadgers23 said:

That probably does it for this year and what’s worse is we’ll probably have to watch the Cardinals celebrate a division clincher in Milwaukee. That’ll be a real kick to the nether regions.

I was in Miller Park when the Cardinals won the 2011 NL pennant. I’m betting that was way worse.

[Brewcrew82]

54 minutes ago, willie key said:

This is the exact opposite of what you are meaning to say.   Actually hiura was unexpected production this year

I think what you meant to say is a fitting end to the season is our bullpen giving up a home run late to lose the game and our two three and four hitters striking out in the ninth 

that’s a perfect description of the season

Yes, because you are the expert on what I personally meant to say. After listening to the same few people on here incessantly talk him up over the past few months despite the emerging warning signs, it's fitting that he has now done absolutely nothing during the stretch run and to top it off had a crucial base-running mistake which cost the team two runs today in a virtual must-win game. He's a former first round pick who can't make contact to save his life and is a huge negative on defense. Him and Yelich not performing like the "elite" hitters they were supposed to be is a significant part of our offensive woes over the last few years. 

The regression from the bullpen this year has likewise been part of it, I will give you that.