Rumor: Top 50 Trade Candidates - Who Interests You?

[nate82]

2 minutes ago, brewcrewdue80 said:

Doesn't this statement mean the Brewers should still be seeking a top 20 prospect for Adames?  You know, should Milw be swept all 6 games vs the Reds or lose 5 of 6(lost 5 straight to Pittsburgh that one year just saying)

Hope Adames has himself a decent July.  Alonso has just a few extra HRs on his statline that keeps him from being meh.  Savant has his EV down 3 years straight, max HR distance 3 years straight, his XHR lower than all the other MLB stadiums except the 26 in Mets.  He's trending down as he ages.

You are missing the point.  The Mets don't care if they lose Alonso to FA the Brewers would.  The Mets can just go out and buy someone else like Goldschmidt in FA if they lose Alonso.  They don't really need to replenish the farm system or recycle talent when they can just go and sign whoever they want. 

If a team wants Alonso they will have to overpay for him.  It is the Mets price or nothing.  This isn't the Pirates, Royals or A's here this is the Mets with an owner who doesn't care about the teams spending.  If Alonso would cost $30m next year it would also be irrelevant.  The only way the Mets are trading Alonso is if they are getting back premium prospects. 

For the Brewers they would trade Adames if they are out of it but will be looking to replenish their farm system and wouldn't be as hard on their asking price.  I still believe the Brewers get a top 50-100 prospect back for Adames.

[Brock Beauchamp]

6 hours ago, umphrey said:

Chourio is completely floundering in AA this year. He’s going to plummet down the prospect lists. He doesn’t have the pedigree or enough history to be able to have a bad year and still stick as a top 10 prospect. 

He's still 19 years old and posting an OPS over .700 against AA pitching.

That's not floundering, that's actually quite impressive. You realize the average age of a AA player is like 24 years old, right?

By the way, MLB.com just updated their top 100 list like a week ago and Chourio is up to #3 overall.

[Brock Beauchamp]

To give some perspective on Chourio, MLB.com's #1 overall prospect, Jackson Holliday, is four months older than Chourio and started the 2023 season two levels lower in the minor leagues.

Seeing a teenager merely hold their own against AA opponents speaks to Chourio's immense talent; it's not a disappointment.

And Chourio isn't even deep into his nineteenth year. His birthday is in March. He won't turn 20 until we're almost into the 2024 season.

[nate82]

2 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

To give some perspective on Chourio, MLB.com's #1 overall prospect, Jackson Holliday, is four months older than Chourio and started the 2023 season two levels lower in the minor leagues.

Seeing a teenager merely hold their own against AA opponents speaks to Chourio's immense talent; it's not a disappointment.

And Chourio isn't even deep into his nineteenth year. His birthday is in March. He won't turn 20 until we're almost into the 2024 season.

Not to mention Chourio didn't have all that much time in A+.  There was debate on where the Brewers were going to place Chourio this year and I think most had him starting in A+ and not in AA.  The assignment of Chourio was very aggressive by the Brewers.  MLB is also experimenting with baseballs in AA this year I believe which maybe causing some issues here. 

I think Chourio, Quero, Black and Misiorowski are probably the only untouchables in the Brewers minor league system.  I think the Brewers are willing to part with Frelick if it means an impact player is coming back to them with 3-4 years of control.  Something similar to a Yelich type of a trade. 

[rickh150]

If we buy, I’d like a key bat for this and next year… a FA after 2024 season. If we are trading a Frelick and change,I don’t want a rental. Any 1B, 2B, or 3B fit this?

[rickh150]

6 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

To give some perspective on Chourio, MLB.com's #1 overall prospect, Jackson Holliday, is four months older than Chourio and started the 2023 season two levels lower in the minor leagues.

Seeing a teenager merely hold their own against AA opponents speaks to Chourio's immense talent; it's not a disappointment.

And Chourio isn't even deep into his nineteenth year. His birthday is in March. He won't turn 20 until we're almost into the 2024 season.

I tend to agree… but he still is going to drop a bit.

[Brock Beauchamp]

7 minutes ago, rickh150 said:

I tend to agree… but he still is going to drop a bit.

Maybe but there is a lot of MiLB season left to play and I don't think he'll move much on midseason lists.

[nate82]

55 minutes ago, rickh150 said:

If we buy, I’d like a key bat for this and next year… a FA after 2024 season. If we are trading a Frelick and change,I don’t want a rental. Any 1B, 2B, or 3B fit this?

Nope. 

Best option would be Luis Robert Jr. (CF) but I don't think the White Sox will sell.  It would take Frelick and a lot more to get Robert. 

[titletownking]

6 hours ago, nate82 said:

Not to mention Chourio didn't have all that much time in A+.  There was debate on where the Brewers were going to place Chourio this year and I think most had him starting in A+ and not in AA.  The assignment of Chourio was very aggressive by the Brewers.  MLB is also experimenting with baseballs in AA this year I believe which maybe causing some issues here. 

I think Chourio, Quero, Black and Misiorowski are probably the only untouchables in the Brewers minor league system.  I think the Brewers are willing to part with Frelick if it means an impact player is coming back to them with 3-4 years of control.  Something similar to a Yelich type of a trade. 

If I remember correctly, the southern league specifically is allowing pitchers to experiment with throwing substances. 

[Brock Beauchamp]

13 hours ago, nate82 said:

Nope. 

Best option would be Luis Robert Jr. (CF) but I don't think the White Sox will sell.  It would take Frelick and a lot more to get Robert. 

It will take a lot to get Robert but I think there's a semi-decent chance the White Sox blow up the roster at the deadline. There just isn't much mid- or long-term hope for them at this point.

[brewcrewdue80]

18 hours ago, nate82 said:

Not to mention Chourio didn't have all that much time in A+.  There was debate on where the Brewers were going to place Chourio this year and I think most had him starting in A+ and not in AA.  The assignment of Chourio was very aggressive by the Brewers.  MLB is also experimenting with baseballs in AA this year I believe which maybe causing some issues here. 

I think Chourio, Quero, Black and Misiorowski are probably the only untouchables in the Brewers minor league system.  I think the Brewers are willing to part with Frelick if it means an impact player is coming back to them with 3-4 years of control.  Something similar to a Yelich type of a trade. 

You don't see pitcher Carlos Rodriguez as untouchable? Luis Lara? Abner Uribe? 

I fully get Frelick(8/40 since return in AAA no XBHs)being a headliner as the defense/power potential isn't up there with Wiemer or Mitchell. 

Now I would trade the untradeables if getting a longer controlled player who fits the needs as a position player for position player or pitcher for pitcher.

What clogs this buy at trade deadline is the, Are you trading the guys set to be FAs after 2024 after the season if not 1 or 2 at this trade deadline?  Using our top guys in minors with trade value to improve this team doesn't sit right with the impending trade of the future FAs next offseason.  Using the guys who aren't top tier in our minors, what are you really improving this team doing so? The players traded for is likely a rental of another version of Anderson, Winker, or Tellez downside/upside. Another version of Matt Bush upside/downside.  

As we sit right now, we're heading a playoff pitching matchup with Burnes, Miley, then Peralta. 

Sucks where we are sitting. We need 2 bats with confidence they are good bats to make an impact on offense.

1 better SP than Miley&Peralta. 

1 RP that is late inning reliable.

Did any of these 50 in OP fill that honestly? Competing with 15+ other bidders potentially. It'd wipe out the entire high tier of prospects acquiring these 4 players.

[Outlander]

Woodruff will obviously be back so they have the SP covered. I take my chances with Burnes/Woodruff/Peralta/Miley in the playoffs. They do need another hitter or two, one way or the other.

[nate82]

1 hour ago, brewcrewdue80 said:

You don't see pitcher Carlos Rodriguez as untouchable? Luis Lara? Abner Uribe? 

You could make a case for Rodriguez (SP) I think that is who you mean.  Lara is good just not untouchable good and Uribe is a reliever.  While I like all of them but I wouldn't consider them untouchable and definitely not trading them for rentals. 

I expect one of the three (Adames, Burnes or Woodruff) to be traded this off season but I could also see the Brewers just rolling the dice with all three for another year and then offering them QO's at the end of the year.  If all three sign contracts that means the Brewers would have 4 picks in the comp A portion of the draft.  The Brewers will have a comp B in next years draft and then will move back to comp A in the '25 draft.  It would be a risky strategy if two or all three have bad years or get injured. 

I think if the Brewers trade for anyone this deadline it will be rentals.  Though I think Lane Thomas has a few years of control and I think that would be someone the Brewers would target in a trade.  Duvall is someone I think the Brewers would target as he is hitting lefties really well this year with a 123 wRC+.  Duvall also wouldn't cost that much probably someone like Perez (OF) or Zamora (SS). 

 

[Brewcrew82]

5 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

It will take a lot to get Robert but I think there's a semi-decent chance the White Sox blow up the roster at the deadline. There just isn't much mid- or long-term hope for them at this point.

Robert is actually one of the few players I'd consider trading Chourio for.

[Brock Beauchamp]

20 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Robert is actually one of the few players I'd consider trading Chourio for.

Also being a Twins fan, please don’t do this, Brewers. 🙂

[Brewcrew82]

1 minute ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

Also being a Twins fan, please don’t do this, Brewers. 🙂

Yeah. I don't know if I would do it. But a guaranteed star as opposed to a potential star is worth a lot. Robert's injuries give you pause, though. 

[Brock Beauchamp]

6 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Yeah. I don't know if I would do it. But a guaranteed star as opposed to a potential star is worth a lot. Robert's injuries give you pause, though. 

Yeah, that's really the only concern with him. His contract is super-reasonable with multiple options.

[wallus]

If I felt we were a Robert away from winning a World Series, you consider trading Chourio for him. I think where we are at now, that would be a bad decision.

[edfunderburk]

On 7/7/2023 at 12:54 PM, Brock Beauchamp said:

To give some perspective on Chourio, MLB.com's #1 overall prospect, Jackson Holliday, is four months older than Chourio and started the 2023 season two levels lower in the minor leagues.

Seeing a teenager merely hold their own against AA opponents speaks to Chourio's immense talent; it's not a disappointment.

And Chourio isn't even deep into his nineteenth year. His birthday is in March. He won't turn 20 until we're almost into the 2024 season.

I still marvel at how Robin Yount only played 64 minor league games before becoming the Brewers starting SS at age 18 (back in 1974) - that is truly amazing!

[Brock Beauchamp]

1 minute ago, edfunderburk said:

I still marvel at how Robin Yount only played 64 minor league games before becoming the Brewers starting SS at age 18 (back in 1974) - that is truly amazing!

Yeah, back in the day it was astounding how quickly some guys reached the majors. I don’t think Dave Winfield played a single game in the minors. 

[edfunderburk]

On 7/7/2023 at 3:47 PM, nate82 said:

Chourio, Quero, Black and Misiorowski are probably the only untouchables in the Brewers minor league system

I love all those players & hope none are traded 

I feel the same way about Frelick

 

 

[edfunderburk]

Just now, Brock Beauchamp said:

Yeah, back in the day it was astounding how quickly some guys reached the majors. I don’t think Dave Winfield played a single game in the minors. 

Winfield was a college player at Minnesota I believe

Yount came from high school

Incredible

[edfunderburk]

On 7/7/2023 at 3:47 PM, nate82 said:

I think the Brewers are willing to part with Frelick if it means an impact player is coming back to them with 3-4 years of control.

I hope not 

I’d rather part ways with Mitchell or Wiemer

In a perfect world - I’d like to keep all of them 

[edfunderburk]

22 hours ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Robert is actually one of the few players I'd consider trading Chourio for.

I would only consider that trade if we could sign Robert to an extension … & even then it might be difficult 

I want to see Chourio in Milwaukee for a decade or more - home grown talent signed & developed in our system would be sweet

[RWeeksFan23]

18 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

Yeah, back in the day it was astounding how quickly some guys reached the majors. I don’t think Dave Winfield played a single game in the minors. 

I don't think Mike Leake did either.