Brewers (Woodruff) vs Marlins (Luzardo): 9/23/23, 3:10pm

[Brewcrew82]

4 minutes ago, TURBO said:

If I need to explain to you why one call by an umpire doesn't decide the outcome of a baseball game that literally has thousands of possible outcomes on every pitch, every play, every minute of the game, then I don't know what else I can say.

There is no leadoff runner if it gets called like it should have. Run doesn't score. You're just being contrarian. It clearly affected the outcome of the game.

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

Onto tomorrow. Honestly, I'm more concerned about avoiding the Cubs (maybe irrationally so) than anything right now.

Let's clinch tomorrow. Or at home against the Cardinals. That would be joyful too.

 

[ReverendBrewmeister]

That loss was a bit disappointing, though hardly crushing. Wished to have seen better from our #1/#2 starter, but Woodruff was apt to have a non-dominant start at some time before the season ended. Having a big comeback to tie is excellent, yet it feels unfulfilled when the game is ultimately lost. Seeing one of the top bullpen arms be a bit wild and give up a run with a wild pitch isn't great. 

But with all that said, the Brewers are dormie for the division title. It's nicer to clinch that at the earliest opportunity, showing the killer instinct. Not getting it done today isn't terrible, but it would be best to wrap it up on Sunday and have the "happy flight" back to Milwaukee. 

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

Getting Payamps right is a big priority over the next week. Rest and pick-your-spots. Uribe looks great, but he scares me in a postseason series. When his control is off (as it can be when the adrenaline is really going), it's tough. Hate to have an inning spiral. He's be my "I need one out to end an inning" guy.

 

 

[Sixtolezcano]

34 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Strike 3...

Borderline call on Gameday. Could have gone either way.

[edfunderburk]

Payamps needs a week of rest 

He’s had a great season overall - but he’s not been good for a month or so

I assume he’s tired

Hopefully, a week off gets him back on track

Sadly, based on “what have you done for me lately” - I don’t trust him come playoff time 

[Brewcrew82]

3 minutes ago, Sixtolezcano said:

Borderline call on Gameday. Could have gone either way.

Not really. And had been getting called all game. 

[TURBO]

16 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

There is no leadoff runner if it gets called like it should have. Run doesn't score. You're just being contrarian. It clearly affected the outcome of the game.

One call by an umpire has an effect on the game, but doesn't win or lose a game.

Already explained it to you, so we'll just agree to disagree.

[Sixtolezcano]

9 minutes ago, Sixtolezcano said:

Borderline call on Gameday. Could have gone either way.

Sour grapes.

[wiguy94]

9 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

Not really. And had been getting called all game. 

The ump blew the call, but the ump was blowing calls all day. At least a few Marlins players were rung up on ball 4. It was a horrible ump performance. Who knows if the game is even 4-4 going into the bottom of the 8th if the ump had accurately called the game.

[Sixtolezcano]

Loss didn’t affect the Brewer’s standing in the playoff hierarchy. In fact it may (may) play to their advantage by seeing the Marlins in the first round (and possibly eliminating the Cubs).

[Brewcrew82]

12 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

The ump blew the call, but the ump was blowing calls all day. At least a few Marlins players were rung up on ball 4. It was a horrible ump performance. Who knows if the game is even 4-4 going into the bottom of the 8th if the ump had accurately called the game.

It was called wrong on Chisholm for example, no doubt. But that pitch had been consistently getting called in the lead-up to that at-bat. Case in point, Uribe's last K. 

It was a strike that all of a sudden wasn't a strike in a crucial moment.

[wiguy94]

2 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

It was called wrong on Chisholm for example, no doubt. But that pitch had been consistently getting called in the lead-up to that at-bat. Case in point, Uribe's last K. 

It was a strike that all of a sudden wasn't a strike in a crucial moment.

Both of Uribe’s pitches were entirely in the strike zone. Payamps just grazed the edge. Payamps pitch had been called a ball multiple times earlier in the game.  In the 5th inning Soler was rung up on a clear ball 4 with 0 outs. Bell had a single in the next AB. Would have likely been 1st and 3rd with 0 outs and the Marlins up 4-0. 

[Brewcrew82]

10 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

Both of Uribe’s pitches were entirely in the strike zone. Payamps just grazed the edge. Payamps pitch had been called a ball multiple times earlier in the game.  In the 5th inning Soler was rung up on a clear ball 4 with 0 outs. Bell had a single in the next AB. Would have likely been 1st and 3rd with 0 outs and the Marlins up 4-0. 

I don't know if I would say it just grazed the edge. The first pitch in that at-bat grazed the edge (and was also called a ball). That last pitch was pretty blatant. 

Soler being rung up on that pitch in the 5th only makes my point. That entire part of the zone was wide open all game, until it randomly wasn't in a crucial spot.  

In the end it's a loss that means very little, but frustrating. 

[yourout]

18 minutes ago, wiguy94 said:

Both of Uribe’s pitches were entirely in the strike zone. Payamps just grazed the edge. Payamps pitch had been called a ball multiple times earlier in the game.  In the 5th inning Soler was rung up on a clear ball 4 with 0 outs. Bell had a single in the next AB. Would have likely been 1st and 3rd with 0 outs and the Marlins up 4-0. 

Would be interesting to see on average how many pitches would be changed with a perfectly operating Automated Zone per game.

Obviously Angel Hernandez games would probably have at least a dozen.

[treego14]

Let's turn the page!

Let's put the Pirates, Cardinals, Cubs, and Reds in the cage!

We're about to clinch first place at this stage!

[willie key]

The reds are done.   You can’t blow an 8 run lead and expect to make the playoffs 

[brewmann04]

Time to finish this let put this away early 

[Frisbee Slider]

9 hours ago, willie key said:

The reds are done.   You can’t blow an 8 run lead and expect to make the playoffs 

…nine run lead, in fact. A devastating loss for Cincinnati.