2023-24 Wisconsin Basketball season thread

[LouisEly]

1 hour ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

I'm not sure exactly where they stand AFA available schollies are concerned. But the current climate allows for quite a bit of leeway. Carter Gilmore was originally a walkon & is now on scholarship. He could have it taken away if need be, and I'm 99% sure he'd stay on and pay for his next year. And from what I understand Chris Hodges pretty much knew he'd lose his ride if the kid (Reynolds) who was planning on coming here & then flipped to UWGB had actually enrolled. Isaac Lindsay may be in the same boat, I don't recall if he's on a ride this year or not.

A lot of this stuff is unsavory. But when you're dealing with the portal as currently constructed, and with a lot of kids looking for the best NIL deal year-to-year, it's not surprising. I think the new model is "If you want someone, go after them & the roster/scholarship thing will work itself out."

As of right now they have 13 on schollie plus Lindsey is on a NIL deal in lieu of scholarship.  That's probably what would happen with Gilmore.  They'll do that for an unsure situation (i.e., both have a player who might leave but they aren't sure if he will AND high mutual interest from a recruit/transfer but not sure what school that kid is going to choose), but not for a deliberate situation (i.e. just sending out offers looking to upgrade, i.e. "Creaning").  And they won't get to a point where they have to put several kids on NIL deals because of too many scholarship players, thus why I think they knew that someone (i.e. Gus) was leaving.

As homer mentioned, sounds like they knew as Gus wasn't traveling with them.  I don't know if he's transferring; he might just be leaving the team to focus on his health/life choices.  Chances are he's been on the bench for home games so as not to cause any distractions about why he isn't there.

[yourout]

Playing like crap early.

[yourout]

Man do they reach and grab.

[AKCheesehead]

They're letting JMU get away with anything they want right now.

[yourout]

2 minutes ago, AKCheesehead said:

They're letting JMU get away with anything they want right now.

They should have about 8 fouls

[yourout]

I played FFA basketball in high school and it had less reaching and grabbing.

[yourout]

Not sure if they could play worse.

Worst half of the year.

[AKCheesehead]

I love how they were just complementing the defense and showed the obvious foul on the replay.  This is ridiculous.

[yourout]

Just now, AKCheesehead said:

I love how they were just complementing the defense and showed the obvious foul on the replay.  This is ridiculous.

Followed by three more reaches on Storr 

[RedStickBrew]

Badgers need to use the pass better and stop dribbling into traffic

[RedStickBrew]

1 minute ago, AKCheesehead said:

I love how they were just complementing the defense and showed the obvious foul on the replay.  This is ridiculous.

It is horrible and the main reason this game is hard to watch so far

[nate82]

Regardless what the refs are or are not doing the offense is being a bit lazy on some of these passes.  Offensively this team is not executing at all.

[RedStickBrew]

1 minute ago, nate82 said:

Regardless what the refs are or are not doing the offense is being a bit lazy on some of these passes.  Offensively this team is not executing at all.

Exactly right. They need to create space with movement and are not at all

[yourout]

Embarrassing half.

[Samurai Bucky]

6 minutes ago, nate82 said:

Regardless what the refs are or are not doing the offense is being a bit lazy on some of these passes.  Offensively this team is not executing at all.

The offense is a lazy offense.  It works when Crowl can get on the block and do something.  Unfortunately, Nebraska showed that when you double Crowl, he is going to turn the ball over -- 80% of the time.

Tyler Wahl can't hit a bunny.  This isn't anything new, either.

When they are playing five out and Storr tries to dribble, nobody knows what to do because the offense isn't designed for that.

Yes -- the referees are letting a lot of hand checking, etc. going on.  On the dribble handoff, the JMU player had his hand OVER THE SHOULDER of the Wisconsin offensive player.  No call... "Great Defense."

They need to set some off the ball screens.  Period.  The refs aren't going to call the physical play.  Heck, they screwed up the obvious call where the ball went off of the JMU player.

Bottom line -- Wisconsin needs to play better.  Period.

[Samurai Bucky]

4 minutes ago, yourout said:

Embarrassing half.

They are making Virginia look good compared to them.

[SeaBass]

I really haven't followed the Badgers or college basketball but they looked absolutely trash that half. Didn't look like they had any answers either. They have Whal stationed at the top of the circle and he's zero threat to shoot a three. What use is that? They throw him the ball and now he needs to pass somewhere else. He doesn't penetrate, can't shoot, is that the only option they have? It solves nothing. There doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to their offense. It was a bad half so obviously they must be better than this normally but being unfamiliar with them they just look incompetent.

[Jim French Stepstool]

I credit JMU with some really active hands & feet on defense, and a lot of it is w/o fouling IMO. I said to someone the other day UW wins this if they continue what they've shown the last 5-6 games, and will struggle & might get knocked off if they somehow revert to February. I didn't expect that, but here we are. TOs, settling for threes almost as if we feel the need to get a shot off before losing it, then finally getting it right but missing 2 footers. Crowl has to get something done in the block. The turnover spigot has to be shut off in the 2nd half, which usually happens. Hepburn has to somehow reboot. Drives to the hoop are fine, but set up a curl move or a pass to the lane or baseline......something. Storr is just putting his head down & hoping people get out of his way. They aren't.

Defense has been good enough to win, IMO.

You have to hope for Wahls' sake he's playing more hurt than they're letting on, because he's really going out on an ugly note if he doesn't get more done.

[RedStickBrew]

5 minutes ago, SeaBass said:

I really haven't followed the Badgers or college basketball but they looked absolutely trash that half. Didn't look like they had any answers either. They have Whal stationed at the top of the circle and he's zero threat to shoot a three. What use is that? They throw him the ball and now he needs to pass somewhere else. He doesn't penetrate, can't shoot, is that the only option they have? It solves nothing. There doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to their offense. It was a bad half so obviously they must be better than this normally but being unfamiliar with them they just look incompetent.

You pretty much nailed it as far as the deficiencies on offense go. They need to play through the paint to be successful IMO. If they take care of the ball this half it would help too

[MrTPlush]

1 minute ago, RedStickBrew said:

You pretty much nailed it as far as the deficiencies on offense go. They need to play through the paint to be successful IMO. If they take care of the ball this half it would help too

21 points off 13 turnovers. Wisconsin has 4 points off 5 turnovers.

They have been dominated in just about every other facet of the game too though.

[yourout]

Did some strange reason Hepburn passed the ball to Wahl about 5 feet after crossing half court while he was about 4 feet away.

Made no sense.

[RedStickBrew]

Good call by Gard to go smaller

[homer]

can't defend pick n roll

[yourout]

Wahl has been so so so bad.

[nate82]

This is just a clinic on what not to do offensively.