Adames and Williams Rank #2 and #3 by MLB Execs, scouts, and coaches as most likely to be traded this Spring

[True Blue Brew Crew]

Jayson Stark polled MLB execs, scouts, and coaches and after Dylan Cease, the next most likely players to be traded this Spring among those polled were Adames and Williams. Given most of those polled are currently employed by MLB teams, you can safely gather that their names are being discussed more than usual...

 

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From another rival exec: “They’ve already lost the ace (Burnes), and they’re going to lose more. They’re selling off the shortstop and the closer. So put them on (this list).”

 

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Then there are Willy Adames and Devin Williams, no doubt loving life in Brewers camp. They might want to take note of the fact that Corbin Burnes’ stuff isn’t hanging in a locker there anymore.

 

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Here are the five names at the top of that Most Likely to Get Traded leaderboard and their corresponding vote totals:

Dylan Cease — 14
Willy Adames — 5
Devin Williams — 4
Kenley Jansen — 4
Shane Bieber — 4

 

 

https://theathletic.com/5290024/2024/02/22/mlb-players-trade-predictions-spring-training/

[DR28]

Not gonna happen.

[Lloyd330]

i'd say that Willy has a better chance at getting moved than Williams

 

[Outlander]

To be fair there is a rather large gap between 1 and 2 but don't see much of a chance WIlliams is moved prior to the season. Don't think Adames is moved either but see a much better chance with him. I guess in general there are not a lot of major trades once Spring Training starts.

[NOMAAM]

44 minutes ago, Outlander said:

To be fair there is a rather large gap between 1 and 2 but don't see much of a chance WIlliams is moved prior to the season. Don't think Adames is moved either but see a much better chance with him. I guess in general there are not a lot of major trades once Spring Training starts.

Not sure much better chance a contender has a big injury in the bullpen.  And willing to overpay in prospects for Williams.  His salary is a steal.  But agree still think any deal is remote at this point.

[jay87shot]

At this point, I doubt it unless a team like the Dodgers has an injury to Lux or a key reliever. I would think we are way more likely to trade our extra bullpen depth for young high ceiling talent or an OF. Here are some ideas I thought of recently.

Payamps to the Royals for there comp A pick and P Matt Sauer 

We build our comp. pick repertoire even more and maybe add a decent depth arm and the Royals get a potential closer for 3 years.

Mitchell and Wilson to the Padres for Jacob Marsee and Adam Mazur

We get 2 high ceiling prospects for depth, Marsee isn't to far away in case we have injuries in the OF.

Mitchell to Cleveland, Tyler Freeman to Miami, we get Dax Fulton and OF Andres Valor

Cleveland and Miami fill holes and we get 2 big upside prospects for Mitchell

[Lloyd330]

4 minutes ago, jay87shot said:

At this point, I doubt it unless a team like the Dodgers has an injury to Lux or a key reliever. I would think we are way more likely to trade our extra bullpen depth for young high ceiling talent or an OF. Here are some ideas I thought of recently.

Payamps to the Royals for there comp A pick and P Matt Sauer 

We build our comp. pick repertoire even more and maybe add a decent depth arm and the Royals get a potential closer for 3 years.

Mitchell and Wilson to the Padres for Jacob Marsee and Adam Mazur

We get 2 high ceiling prospects for depth, Marsee isn't to far away in case we have injuries in the OF.

Mitchell to Cleveland, Tyler Freeman to Miami, we get Dax Fulton and OF Andres Valor

Cleveland and Miami fill holes and we get 2 big upside prospects for Mitchell

Fells like you just want to trade Mitchell at any cost

[jay87shot]

23 hours ago, Lloyd330 said:

Fells like you just want to trade Mitchell at any cost

No just an outfielder, for me Mitchell makes the most sense since he has had injury issues and there are more teams looking for a lefty OF. I get someone can fo to AAA but that seems like a waste at some point. With 5 capable OF and a solid 4th OF we can turn OF value into depth somewhere else and still have enough depth if injuries happen. There are still plenty of teams that could use some 

[Lloyd330]

45 minutes ago, jay87shot said:

No just an outfielder, for me Mitchell makes the most sense since he has had injury issues and there are more teams looking for a lefty OF. I get someone can fo to AAA but that seems like a waste at some point. With 5 capable OF and a solid 4th OF we can turn OF value into depth somewhere else and still have enough depth if injuries happen. There are still plenty of teams that could use some 

We have 1 capable OF ( Yelich )  and three unknows with tons of talant. 

Need to stop acting like this is the year.  its not.. This is the transition year to see what we have ,

 

[jay87shot]

2 hours ago, Lloyd330 said:

We have 1 capable OF ( Yelich )  and three unknows with tons of talant. 

Need to stop acting like this is the year.  its not.. This is the transition year to see what we have ,

 

I agree that this is a transition year but for me trading blocked talent for a part or parts that fits the 2025 mold better should be part of the plan for 2025. It makes no sense to send a mlb ready/tested player like Weimer down to the minors in order to get more playing time or because there aren't enough spots on the 26 man. I agree this isn't likely the year we win it all, but we can be competitive and still improve the future.

I don't really care which OF goes, to be honest if anyone would give us something of value I would trade Yeli 1st (and he waves no trade). I just don't think that is reasonable, I picked Mitchell because I think he would be the most likely to be traded for a good return.

[Scooterfletcher]

37 minutes ago, jay87shot said:

It makes no sense to send a mlb ready/tested player like Weimer down to the minors in order to get more playing time or because there aren't enough spots on the 26 man. I agree this isn't likely the year we win it all, but we can be competitive and still improve the future.

 

He should begin in aaa to manipulate an extra control year out of him.

[jerichoholicninja]

Seems like he's assuming since Burnes was traded we're just burning it to the ground. Maybe one or both of those guys gets traded but there's zero smoke or fire here and Stark is just making stuff up.

[MNBrew]

I doubt Stark's just making this up when it's a survey of team execs, but as we've learned many times over the years, there's a big, big difference between "we'll listen" and "we're shopping (player X)."

[bigred]

21 hours ago, jay87shot said:

I agree that this is a transition year but for me trading blocked talent for a part or parts that fits the 2025 mold better should be part of the plan for 2025. It makes no sense to send a mlb ready/tested player like Weimer down to the minors in order to get more playing time or because there aren't enough spots on the 26 man. I agree this isn't likely the year we win it all, but we can be competitive and still improve the future.

I don't really care which OF goes, to be honest if anyone would give us something of value I would trade Yeli 1st (and he waves no trade). I just don't think that is reasonable, I picked Mitchell because I think he would be the most likely to be traded for a good return.

Wiemer has an absolute boatload of talent, so getting reps in AAA for a while couldn't be a bad thing. If they traded him, and he ends up being a perennial All-Star in a couple years, you would regret your opinion. Lol it's happened with many other young players that teams gave up on way too soon. 

[rickh150]

Have to believe we are shopping, looking to deal. Yup and you bet. Not sitting back and SET.
When ace is dealt in late offseason, I think anything else is still a strong possibility.

[SF70]

Williams I would guess more so than Adames, but an overpay for either will get Arnold to pull the trigger.

Extreme talent & depth in the bullpen makes Williams more expendable, with Willy more important to the team winning games this season.

[Lloyd330]

List of teams that dont have a legit closer 

Tigers - Dont really see them going after one - Years away from being good

Royals - Dont really see them going after one - Years away from being good

White Sox - Maybe?

A's - NO CHANCE IN HELL

Rangers - Absolutely need one

Angels - Maybe?

[monty57]

At this point, I'm not expecting anyone else to be traded.

That said, all offseason I've thought that an Adames trade could/should happen. That it hasn't happened yet seems to indicate that no one was willing to meet the Brewers' price tag, and they see him as more valuable to the team this year than what they could receive in trade. That doesn't shock me, as I don't think he has a lot of trade value. 

Williams would surprise me. I think they're trying to win this year, and he can help them do that. If it doesn't work out, he can be traded at the deadline. Relievers always seem to get way overvalued at the deadline so we could get a lot for him then. If they do make a playoff run this year, then he can be dealt next offseason. There's no need to trade him off now unless they are absolutely blown away with a trade offer.

Any of the young OF could be traded, but it would have to be a perfect matchup where another team needs an OF and has a blocked prospect of equal value to the OF we're trading at a position of need for the Brewers. The Brewers have young talent everywhere, and have added pitching to the point I'm wondering how they're going to find a spot for everyone. I think it'd be hard to find a good matchup unless they trade for someone in the low minors and I don't think that's going to happen. I guess a slugging 1B/DH could work if there's a team willing to give one up for one of our OF.

It's a good thing that they're stocked with young talent. If that means they keep players like Wiemer and Turang in AAA for a good part of the season, then that's what happens. It's not always about a player "needing more seasoning" or "having nothing left to prove." It's about what's best for the team, and the Brewers should have some nice injury insurance sitting at AAA this year.

Who knows, maybe none of the guys will extend and they'll have Wiemer for another season after Mitchell is gone because he spends this year in AAA. Not the best scenario for Wiemer, but it would be good for the Brewers.

[jay87shot]

19 hours ago, monty57 said:

At this point, I'm not expecting anyone else to be traded.

That said, all offseason I've thought that an Adames trade could/should happen. That it hasn't happened yet seems to indicate that no one was willing to meet the Brewers' price tag, and they see him as more valuable to the team this year than what they could receive in trade. That doesn't shock me, as I don't think he has a lot of trade value. 

Williams would surprise me. I think they're trying to win this year, and he can help them do that. If it doesn't work out, he can be traded at the deadline. Relievers always seem to get way overvalued at the deadline so we could get a lot for him then. If they do make a playoff run this year, then he can be dealt next offseason. There's no need to trade him off now unless they are absolutely blown away with a trade offer.

Any of the young OF could be traded, but it would have to be a perfect matchup where another team needs an OF and has a blocked prospect of equal value to the OF we're trading at a position of need for the Brewers. The Brewers have young talent everywhere, and have added pitching to the point I'm wondering how they're going to find a spot for everyone. I think it'd be hard to find a good matchup unless they trade for someone in the low minors and I don't think that's going to happen. I guess a slugging 1B/DH could work if there's a team willing to give one up for one of our OF.

It's a good thing that they're stocked with young talent. If that means they keep players like Wiemer and Turang in AAA for a good part of the season, then that's what happens. It's not always about a player "needing more seasoning" or "having nothing left to prove." It's about what's best for the team, and the Brewers should have some nice injury insurance sitting at AAA this year.

Who knows, maybe none of the guys will extend and they'll have Wiemer for another season after Mitchell is gone because he spends this year in AAA. Not the best scenario for Wiemer, but it would be good for the Brewers.

I agree, I do think it is likely we will see a reliever or two traded but right now I am think more along the lines of Clarke, Vieira, Ross instead of higher value guys.

On 2/26/2024 at 2:31 PM, Lloyd330 said:

List of teams that dont have a legit closer 

Tigers - Dont really see them going after one - Years away from being good

Royals - Dont really see them going after one - Years away from being good

White Sox - Maybe?

A's - NO CHANCE IN HELL

Rangers - Absolutely need one

Angels - Maybe?

The Padres have a couple options but lots of question marks. I could see Arizona being interested and putting Sewald to setup. The Phillies have good options but nothing amazing.

By mid season the Red Sox, O's, and Yankee's could all be looking for closers, not high any of those closers at this point in their careers. Injuries or ineffectiveness will force a couple teams to need a closer.

But for now the Rangers seem like a perfect match for Devin, especially come the deadline when the will likely be getting DeGrom, Sherzer, and Mahle back.

[TURBO]

After reading the below blurb, maybe the Dodgers are re-opening the thoughts of getting Adames from us?

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Dodgers manager Dave Roberts refused Thursday to name Gavin Lux the team’s starting shortstop.

 

It’s notable that Roberts lack of a vote of confidence comes on the heels of several defensive miscues by Lux at shortstop in recent days. He added that performance matters and the club will do what is best for the team. It doesn’t come as a surprise that the 26-year-old will need some time to knock the rust off after missing last year with a torn ACL, but his throwing issues could lead to Los Angeles seeking an alternative at the critical defensive spot, at least temporarily. It’s not like Enrique Hernández is even passable at shortstop at this point in his career, but Miguel Rojas is still a viable defender at the spot, and the tandem could fill the void at least initially.

 

Source: Jack Harris

[Matt]

I wish the Brewers would just rip the bandaid off here. 

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The Dodgers remain interested in Milwaukee Brewers shortstop Willy Adames, a league source said, though the Brewers have been reluctant to move the 28-year-old pending free agent.

All I ask is Lux not be part of the return. 

[Scooterfletcher]

Questio.

 

Can a team trading for Adames as long as it’s before regular season game one offer the QO or has the season technically started in regard to QO.

[nate82]

10 minutes ago, Scooterfletcher said:

Questio.

 

Can a team trading for Adames as long as it’s before regular season game one offer the QO or has the season technically started in regard to QO.

If a team acquires a player before OD they are allowed to offer the QO and receive compensation.  The player has to be on the team from the start of the season to qualify for a team to receive compensation.  The MLB season hasn't started yet so trades that happen now and before the start of the season qualify for compensation. 

[Scooterfletcher]

9 minutes ago, nate82 said:

If a team acquires a player before OD they are allowed to offer the QO and receive compensation.  The player has to be on the team from the start of the season to qualify for a team to receive compensation.  The MLB season hasn't started yet so trades that happen now and before the start of the season qualify for compensation. 

Thanks, Nate.   With that being the case, it seems the Dodgers should give in a bit to what the Brewers have been holding out for in a trade. 

[sveumrules]

Who could have ever predicted that a guy coming off an ACL, who looked like a doubtful SS (+1 DRS | -4 OAA in 502 innings, mostly in 2021) but a plus 2B (+16 DRS | +8 OAA in 1346 innings) before the injury, would then return from that injury and struggle at SS?

Internet commenters.

Only SS I’d be offering is Turang, wouldn’t bail them out with Adames unless they really overpaid.