Chourio to AAA?

[Jopal78]

Under .200 BA, under .600 OPS, and striking out just a clip shy of 33%. Clearly not quite ready for prime time did the Brewers have better options to replace him on the roster?

What’s easier on his psyche:  a demotion to AAA or letting his numbers crater at the majors and he moves into more of a platoon role 

[yfinn6]

He looked better today than he has in the last few weeks. Let him keep playing through it. 

[Cool Hand Lucroy]

This is part of the Chourio ride. He's got to fight through these stretches. Obviously, it's might get to a point where you have to protect his confidence and give him a reset of some sort, but the other thing is that we don't really have many better options at the moment.

When Mitchell is back healthy, I could maybe see Chourio as a 4th outfielder for stretches. Things would have to get really bad for him to go down to AAA. If we have another OFer we want up, he's gotta come up for Weimer.

 

 

[Jim French Stepstool]

I think when he returns Yelich will replace Either Chourio or Wiemer. And I think it should be Wiemer.

[bigred]

Been thinking the same thing about him. I think they should send him to Nashville, to get back on track. 

[Guest]

No, let him play

[BrewerFan]

No. He's a 20-year-old rookie. Let him play. He hit the ball hard 3 times today, twice right at guys.

 

[Brian]

1 hour ago, bigred said:

Been thinking the same thing about him. I think they should send him to Nashville, to get back on track. 

I agree 100% because you don't want to completely destroy all his confidance and he is so young you don't want to ruin him. They may be waiting till Yellach comes back though. 

[KeithStone53151]

Probably a coaches call whether he's still confident enough to work through it. He'll learn/develop more facing mlb pitching than AAA pitching. At this level, have to weigh that against results since at this level they actually matter. until yelich comes back there's no reason to make a change. when yelich is back...but i still lean against it

[Brian]

As Yogi Berra said, Baseball is 90% confidance, the other half is psyical. 

[brewmann04]

People need to be patient 

[Brian]

2 hours ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

I think when he returns Yelich will replace Either Chourio or Wiemer. And I think it should be Wiemer.

Wiemer should be traided if possible and Chourio is the top priority not Wiemer. 

[Brian]

Wiemer is a Luis Urias all over again. Remember him?

[TURBO]

16 minutes ago, Brian said:

Wiemer should be traided if possible and Chourio is the top priority not Wiemer. 

Problem is, at this point in time, he has no trade value.

He needs an extended period at AAA to get his stock back up

[Playing Catch]

He's one of the more dangerous 9-hole hitters in MLB. Power and speed. Let the kid breathe. He's one good game (AB?) away from finding all the confidence he needs to blossom.

[Brian]

19 minutes ago, Playing Catch said:

He's one of the more dangerous 9-hole hitters in MLB. Power and speed. Let the kid breathe. He's one good game (AB?) away from finding all the confidence he needs to blossom.

I agree 100% but there has to be a batting average where the red lights start flashing warning and Wiemer is at .111 and he will be gone when Yellach comes back. 

[Brewcrew82]

No. He's barely 20, and is experiencing an adjustment period, as guys like Julio Rodriguez, Bobby Witt Jr, Elly de la Cruz, etc. did before him. When you pay a guy $80 mil, you have to give him every opportunity to figure it out in the majors. He's always adjusted at every step of the minors. This is just the biggest adjustment of them all, as we are currently witnessing.

I think today he put together perhaps the best 5 consecutive at-bats of his career. Worked the count, swung at his pitches, and had hard hit balls 3/5 times, with a fourth being a 3 run HR in 8/30 ballparks. 

[BrewerFan]

2 hours ago, Brian said:

I agree 100% because you don't want to completely destroy all his confidance and he is so young you don't want to ruin him. They may be waiting till Yellach comes back though. 

You see him up there? He's not lacking for confidence. He's smiling and laughing after lacing a couple to left. Then one fell and he let out a kinda sarcastic looking laugh...as though "finally, one fell."

If he was looking like Turang last August, fine. But he doesn't. He's overly aggressive, pressing, but he's still hitting the ball hard and squaring the ball up enough. He'll adjust. He'll be fine. Going down to AAA and punishing pitching...he's past that. If he wasn't already signed, then absolutely. But he is.

[Team Canada]

57 minutes ago, Brian said:

I agree 100% but there has to be a batting average where the red lights start flashing warning and Wiemer is at .111 and he will be gone when Yellach comes back. 

Yelich. Let's get our star player's name right.

[BrewerFan]

26 minutes ago, Brewcrew82 said:

No. He's barely 20, and is experiencing an adjustment period, as guys like Julio Rodriguez, Bobby Witt Jr, Elly de la Cruz, etc. did before him. When you pay a guy $80 mil, you have to give him every opportunity to figure it out in the majors. He's always adjusted at every step of the minors. This is just the biggest adjustment of them all, as we are currently witnessing.

I think today he put together perhaps the best 5 consecutive at-bats of his career. Worked the count, swung at his pitches, and had hard hit balls 3/5 times, with a fourth being a 3 run HR in 8/30 ballparks. 

Yup. And there's no service time benefit.

-You're seeing the adjustments in real time.

-Exactly.

[Brian]

11 minutes ago, BrewerFan said:

You see him up there? He's not lacking for confidence. He's smiling and laughing after lacing a couple to left. Then one fell and he let out a kinda sarcastic looking laugh...as though "finally, one fell."

If he was looking like Turang last August, fine. But he doesn't. He's overly aggressive, pressing, but he's still hitting the ball hard and squaring the ball up enough. He'll adjust. He'll be fine. Going down to AAA and punishing pitching...he's past that. If he wasn't already signed, then absolutely. But he is.

I was talking about Joey Weimer in that post. But since your talking about Churio they compaired him with Jackson Holliday of Baltimore and he was sent down this week batting .059

Orioles send down struggling Jackson Holliday, after only 2 hits in 10 games

[BrewerFan]

43 minutes ago, Brian said:

I was talking about Joey Weimer in that post. But since your talking about Churio they compaired him with Jackson Holliday of Baltimore and he was sent down this week batting .059

Orioles send down struggling Jackson Holliday, after only 2 hits in 10 games

I don't care if he was compared to Jackson Holiday...and it was hard to tell you were talking about Wiemer until you edited and wait Wiemer.  The person you were responding to clearly seemed to be talking about Chourio(the subject of the thread).

Jackson Holliday doesn't have anything to do with Chourio. AGAIN, Chourio is signed. No service time issues. He's hitting the ball hard. It makes actual sense for the Os to send Holliday back down. Not only was his OPS .170, he'd gotten on base 4 times in 36 PAs, but he was striking out 50% of the time and...again, and this is real important, they have an incentive to send him down.

Chourio is adjusting, not struggling anywhere nearly as bad as him and the Brewers have no financial or team control incentive to send him back down.

This is after Chourio had arguably the best at bats of the season. 

So I'll echo what the guy talking about Chourio said;

2 hours ago, Playing Catch said:

He's one of the more dangerous 9-hole hitters in MLB. Power and speed. Let the kid breathe. He's one good game (AB?) away from finding all the confidence he needs to blossom.

Even there, I'm not sure he's lost confidence. 

 

PS-I know it's been said, but...these are the faces of the franchise. It's not Yellach and Churo, it's Yellich and Chourio. 

 

[BrewerFan]

2 hours ago, Brian said:

Wiemer is a Luis Urias all over again. Remember him?

Huh? Where is there any Wiemer/Urias crossover?

Also, if Wiemer puts up ~6.5 WAR over this year and next, I think most people will be thrilled...but again, really just doesn't make sense to begin with.

[Jim French Stepstool]

3 hours ago, Brian said:

Wiemer should be traided if possible and Chourio is the top priority not Wiemer. 

Of course he is. What I'm saying is Wiemer should be the one in Nashville, not Chourio.

Bad time to trade Wiemer, unless you think this is his ceiling. And there's no reason to. He should be getting 4 ABs a day in AAA.

[BrewerFan]

47 minutes ago, Jim French Stepstool said:

Of course he is. What I'm saying is Wiemer should be the one in Nashville, not Chourio.

Bad time to trade Wiemer, unless you think this is his ceiling. And there's no reason to. He should be getting 4 ABs a day in AAA.

I still have a lot of faith in Wiemer becoming a ~3 WAR player. Not sure why Urias was brought up as a negative for him, he was  a pretty valuable player and Wiemer could be as well at all 3 OF positions...but he needs regular ABs.

He's got massive power, speed, and great defense, but he's playing tentatively in all phases(again, similar to Turang last year, though at least he was still picking it). 

I wouldn't consider trading Wiemer unless you're getting back something that'd be an overpay. I just suggested a trade with the Marlins. I guess I'd send Black and Wiemer to them for someone like Cabrera or another former top pitching prospect who still has plus stuff, but is struggling. That's the type of guy I have confidence in the Brewers working with. But I'm not trading him just for the sake of trading him.